Mac1958
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Well, at least I know I have you to consult for "The Objective Truth".
Gosh. I am just so lucky!
The Big ******* Lie That Everyone Is Repeating This Week
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Gosh. I am just so lucky!
tigerred59
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News Flash, San Fran...has the lowest cases in the country and she encouraged ppl NOT TO HATE ON THE CHINESE...you idiot!!
tigerred59
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Why do you try to convince ppl with facts and Trumps own words that the man is a complete and utter failure in all this? Why? Why? Why?....you will never, can never won't ever convince brain dead Frump supporters of anything that mirrors the truth.That is sure not what Fauci actually said in the interview. I link the whole thing here, not just the snippets CNN wants you to hear. I typed it out, as well. Fauci was defending the complexity of what the administration had to decide:
Fauci admits earlier Covid-19 mitigation efforts would have saved more American lives | CNN Politics
Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that calls to implement life-saving social distancing measures faced "a lot of pushback" early in the US coronavirus outbreak and that the country is now looking for ways to more effectively respond to the virus should it rebound in the fall.www.cnn.com
JAKE TAPPER: South Korea and the US announced their first confirmed cases of the coronavirus at virtually the same time, In late January. If you look where we are right now in the US, the US has 50 times more cases and almost one hundred times more fatalities. While the US makes up only 4.25% of the world population, the US has 30% of the world’s reported cases and almost 20% of the world’s reported deaths. Dr. Sanjay Gupta said that’s all because we got started too late in the US. Is that right? Do you agree?
DR. FAUCI: You know, it isn’t as simple as that, Jake, I’m sorry. To just say this is all happening because we got started too late—obviously, if you had done something earlier could it have had an impact, obviously. But where we are right now is the result of a number of factors. The size of the country, the ___________ of the country. I think it’s a little unfair to compare us to South Korea, where they had an outbreak in Dagu and they had the capability of shutting it off completely in a way that we may not have been able to do.
So obviously, it would have been nice if we’d had a better head start, but I don’t think you can say we are where we are because of one factor. It’s very complicated, Jake.
JAKE TAPPER: The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week in February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16, almost a month later. Why?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, as I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint; we make a recommendation. Often it’s taken, sometimes it’s not. But it is what it is; we are where we are right now.
JAKE TAPPER: Do you think lives could have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, , stay at home measures had been started the third week in February instead of mid-March?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, once again it’s the “what would have, what could have” –it’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, that it could have saved lives. Obviously. No one is going to deny that. But what goes in to those kind of decisions is complicated. But you’re right. If we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.
tigerred59
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Hey you brain dead fool, show the clip of Biden saying that and he'll counter with 40,000 with the ban still entered the country from China and and and.....what crippled NY and its surrounding states were mf's from ITALY.... a country the idiot completely ignored....so bring it bitches, we ready!!
tigerred59
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NEWS FLASH....TRUMP AND HIS PAC'S AND THE GOP CAN SPIN THIS SHIT ALL THEY WANT....BUT MOST OF THE COUNTRY WON'T FALL FOR THE BULLSHIT, WE'RE SEEING THIS IDIOT IN REAL TIME MOMENTS DAY IN AND DAY OUT...AND NOTHING HE SAYS IS FALLING IN EARS OF INTELLIGENCE.
Crixus
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After his presser today you will be able to spo a libtard with a glance. They are all busting blood vessels in their eyes. The media has failed. The democrats have failed and they know they are going to be on the outs in November.
Crixus
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Lol, no your not. You are in the early stages of another four years of itchy vagina syndrome.
Fort Fun Indiana
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Cool fantasy. In what the rest of us call "reality", everyone on the planet knows the child president has failed in every way possible. Even you cultists know it. You jjust cant admit it to yourselves.
JimBowie1958
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Thank you for presenting some facts in a context that can be addressed instead of the same old tiresome smears.
Fauci did not know for a fact any of this was going to happen as we did not know the relevant facts from China, who was assuring the entire world that COVID19 was not contagious from human to human
January 5, 2020 – China announces that the unknown pneumonia cases in Wuhan are not SARS or MERS. In a statement, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission says a retrospective probe into the outbreak has been initiated.
January 7, 2020 – Chinese authorities confirm that they have identified the virus as a novel coronavirus, initially named 2019-nCoV by the WHO.
January 20, 2020 – China reports 139 new cases of the sickness, including a third death.
January 20, 2020 – The National Institutes of Health announces that it is working on a vaccine against the coronavirus. “The NIH is in the process of taking the first steps towards the development of a vaccine,” says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
January 22, 2020 – Wuhan says it will “temporarily” close its airport and railway stations for departing passengers following news that the death toll from the Wuhan Coronavirus has risen to 17. Chinese authorities confirm at least 547 cases in the mainland.
January 23, 2020 – At an emergency committee convened by the World Health Organization, the WHO says that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
January 23, 2020 – The Beijing Culture and Tourism Bureau cancels all large-scale Lunar New Year celebrations in an effort to contain the growing spread of Wuhan coronavirus. On the same day, Chinese authorities enforce a partial lockdown of transport in and out of Wuhan. Authorities in the nearby cities of Huanggang and Ezhou Huanggang announce a series of similar measures.
January 26, 2020 – The China Association of Travel Services reports that all tours, including international ones, will be suspended.
January 28, 2020 – Chinese President Xi Jinping meets with WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom in Beijing. At the meeting, Xi and the WHO agree to send a team of international experts, including US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention staff, to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.
January 29, 2020 – The White House announces the formation of a new task force that will help monitor and contain the spread of the virus, and ensure Americans have accurate and up-to-date health and travel information, it said.
January 30, 2020 – The US reports its first confirmed case of person-to-person transmission of the Wuhan coronavirus. On the same day, the WHO determines that the outbreak constitutes a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC).
Up until the confirmed transmission from person to person, the Chicoms were denying it was contagious. No one had any idea of how it was spreading because the Chicoms were lying about it consistently; maybe because they new it was an engineered plague that they were using to prep treatment for? Who knows, but untill January 30th no one had any proof that it was even a contagious disease.
This was nothing more than a hunch based on the assumption the virus was indeed a contagious disease, something the Chicoms and their allies in the Western press were mocking and downplaying on a daily basis.
Up till February 26th, major media in this country was mocking Trump- for even being concerned about COVID19, and any health protection measures would have been lampooned and dismissed, completely the opposite of what You Dems are saying now, "Oh, Trump should have known back in early January!"
Navarro was correct, the guy is a genius, but it was not proven fact. They did have the time to prep for the coming disaster, butr found out over the next few weeks that the tests the CDC had put together were inaccurate, and the WH was kind of distracted by Pelosi's Bullshit impeachment effort.
What exactly did Trump say?
I suspect Trump said that based on what we knew for a fact (which was little due to the Chicoms lying like leftists do) it was not appropriate to take away the freedom of the public. We would have to see some evidence that this thing was going to spread worse than the 2.5 factor of spread claimed by the CDC at the time.
February 26, 2020 – CDC officials say that a California patient being treated for novel coronavirus is the first US case of unknown origin. The patient, who didn’t have any relevant travel history nor exposure to another known patient, is the first possible US case of “community spread.”
February 26, 2020 – President Donald Trump places Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the US government response to the novel coronavirus, amid growing criticism of the White House’s handling of the outbreak.
So, on Jan 23 WHO says this is not an emergency but 5 days later the WH is announcing a task force to go to China and investigate the disease. BEFORE THAT, we were already working on a vaccine for it to reduce its spread.
The next day Trump sets of a task force to contain and monitor the spread of the virus.
And all Democrat spinners can do is claim that "Well, Trump should have dune bedder!"
Everyone was flying with no instruments across the globe. It wasnt just Trump!
And after confirmation of the first case of public spread of COVID19, THAT SAME DAY, the Wh appointed VP Pence to immediately set up his task force, up and runnning that same day, and none of you leftists can admit to the simple Truth: the spread of the disease was not the sole consideration. There were constitutional issues, questions about how to manage the disease response/lockdowns across a variation in geography and behavior that the USA has from one state to the next. No one size fits all approach that lefties love so much was going to work.
Now, tell us again, for the 99th gazzillion time "ORANGE MAN BAD LIAR STUPID!" since you cannot understand how and why he did as he did do to manage the response to an unknown 'novel' virus.
JimBowie1958
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Yep, hind sight is always 20/20 and the leftwing geniuses just knew then that COVID19 was something that justified a shut down of the whole economy. (because they just really hate capitalism).That is sure not what Fauci actually said in the interview. I link the whole thing here, not just the snippets CNN wants you to hear. I typed it out, as well. Fauci was defending the complexity of what the administration had to decide:
Fauci admits earlier Covid-19 mitigation efforts would have saved more American lives | CNN Politics
Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that calls to implement life-saving social distancing measures faced "a lot of pushback" early in the US coronavirus outbreak and that the country is now looking for ways to more effectively respond to the virus should it rebound in the fall.
JAKE TAPPER: South Korea and the US announced their first confirmed cases of the coronavirus at virtually the same time, In late January. If you look where we are right now in the US, the US has 50 times more cases and almost one hundred times more fatalities. While the US makes up only 4.25% of the world population, the US has 30% of the world’s reported cases and almost 20% of the world’s reported deaths. Dr. Sanjay Gupta said that’s all because we got started too late in the US. Is that right? Do you agree?
DR. FAUCI: You know, it isn’t as simple as that, Jake, I’m sorry. To just say this is all happening because we got started too late—obviously, if you had done something earlier could it have had an impact, obviously. But where we are right now is the result of a number of factors. The size of the country, the ___________ of the country. I think it’s a little unfair to compare us to South Korea, where they had an outbreak in Dagu and they had the capability of shutting it off completely in a way that we may not have been able to do.
So obviously, it would have been nice if we’d had a better head start, but I don’t think you can say we are where we are because of one factor. It’s very complicated, Jake.
JAKE TAPPER: The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week in February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16, almost a month later. Why?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, as I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint; we make a recommendation. Often it’s taken, sometimes it’s not. But it is what it is; we are where we are right now.
JAKE TAPPER: Do you think lives could have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, , stay at home measures had been started the third week in February instead of mid-March?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, once again it’s the “what would have, what could have” –it’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, that it could have saved lives. Obviously. No one is going to deny that. But what goes in to those kind of decisions is complicated. But you’re right. If we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.
B. Kidd
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Yupp!
China lied, Americans died, and anti-American Dimms try to pin it on Trump!
With Beijing Biden, we'll eventually get more of the same.
OldLady
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Because I'm not very good with the insults and wisecracks and personal attacks?Why do you try to convince ppl with facts and Trumps own words that the man is a complete and utter failure in all this? Why? Why? Why?....you will never, can never won't ever convince brain dead Frump supporters of anything that mirrors the truth.That is sure not what Fauci actually said in the interview. I link the whole thing here, not just the snippets CNN wants you to hear. I typed it out, as well. Fauci was defending the complexity of what the administration had to decide:
Fauci admits earlier Covid-19 mitigation efforts would have saved more American lives | CNN Politics
Dr. Anthony Fauci said Sunday that calls to implement life-saving social distancing measures faced "a lot of pushback" early in the US coronavirus outbreak and that the country is now looking for ways to more effectively respond to the virus should it rebound in the fall.
JAKE TAPPER: South Korea and the US announced their first confirmed cases of the coronavirus at virtually the same time, In late January. If you look where we are right now in the US, the US has 50 times more cases and almost one hundred times more fatalities. While the US makes up only 4.25% of the world population, the US has 30% of the world’s reported cases and almost 20% of the world’s reported deaths. Dr. Sanjay Gupta said that’s all because we got started too late in the US. Is that right? Do you agree?
DR. FAUCI: You know, it isn’t as simple as that, Jake, I’m sorry. To just say this is all happening because we got started too late—obviously, if you had done something earlier could it have had an impact, obviously. But where we are right now is the result of a number of factors. The size of the country, the ___________ of the country. I think it’s a little unfair to compare us to South Korea, where they had an outbreak in Dagu and they had the capability of shutting it off completely in a way that we may not have been able to do.
So obviously, it would have been nice if we’d had a better head start, but I don’t think you can say we are where we are because of one factor. It’s very complicated, Jake.
JAKE TAPPER: The New York Times reported yesterday that you and other top officials wanted to recommend social and physical distancing guidelines to President Trump as far back as the third week in February, but the administration didn’t announce such guidelines to the American public until March 16, almost a month later. Why?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, as I’ve said many times, we look at it from a pure health standpoint; we make a recommendation. Often it’s taken, sometimes it’s not. But it is what it is; we are where we are right now.
JAKE TAPPER: Do you think lives could have been saved if social distancing, physical distancing, , stay at home measures had been started the third week in February instead of mid-March?
DR. FAUCI: You know, Jake, once again it’s the “what would have, what could have” –it’s very difficult to go back and say that. I mean, obviously, you could logically say that if you had a process that was ongoing and you started mitigation earlier, that it could have saved lives. Obviously. No one is going to deny that. But what goes in to those kind of decisions is complicated. But you’re right. If we had right from the very beginning shut everything down, it may have been a little bit different. But there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then.
JimBowie1958
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They care about us like a rancher cares about his cattle.
But they will never see us as human beings in they way they regard their fellow Oligarchs.
JimBowie1958
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Well, you do pretty good without meaning to I guess. lol
Fort Fun Indiana
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Thats exactly right, as scientists and democrats were calling for the distancing while trump the mentally ill old fat man was still doing his hoax ttour.
Thats a fact. Cry about it all you want.
JimBowie1958
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Dem Governor Praises Trump on Handling of Coronavirus "Every single thing he said, they followed through on" * 100PercentFedUp.com * by Leisa Audette
ABC News is reporting that California Governor Gavin Newsom is praising President Trump’s response to the coronavirus in California. Newson […]
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American Media Is Amplifying Chinese Propaganda.
American Media Is Amplifying Chinese Propaganda.Journalists are so mad at President Trump that they’ll publish anything to hurt him.
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2aguy
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You mean except for the democrat party governors who have been singing his praise for all the help he has given them.....and the guys who say he saved lives by shutting down travel to China when you asshats said he wa over reacting and simply being xenophobic...
You morons.......can't wait till November.....do you think biden will remember his own name by then?
JimBowie1958
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AND accurate information about the disease itself which we were not given by China.
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