The Bible vs Liberalism

[alang1216]

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

No Dem I know of supports the abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Link or Lie?

"Democrats own Antifa, just like they owned Occupy


Posted by William A. Jacobson Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 9:30pm
The Antifa street thugs who have rampaged on college campuses and cities long before Charlottesville have been embraced by the anti-Trump Democratic Resistance.

This should come as no surprise, because Democrats also embraced the Occupy Wall Street movement, from which the Antifa movement evolved, As discussed in my prior post, both are the outgrowth of the Black Bloc anarchists and Marxists, Gathering Storms And Threats to Liberty."
Democrats own Antifa, just like they owned Occupy



" OCCUPY WALL STREET GENIUS SAYS HE’S AGAINST “PRIVATE” PROPERTY, NOT “PERSONAL” PROPERTY
....that’s because he wants to keep his iPad 2, naturally, and not share it with the shiftless vagrants fighting over access to one of the three Porta-Potties recently delivered to the now-evacuated camp site in lower Manhattan.
http://humanevents.com/2011/11/17/o...ainst-private-property-not-personal-property/




Did you want a link for "water is wet," too, you dunce.

So you found someone who, Kevin Bacon-like, links someone against private property to the Dems. Flimsy at best. Is Jacobson even a Dem?

Mayor de Bolshevik

This organization describes its mission as to "develop and disseminate new ideas that foster greater economic choice and individual responsibility. Not surprising they would take issue with the Mayor. Most Dems would take issue with the mayor. As I recall he got zero traction from the Dems as a Presidential candidate.

 

[alang1216]

“THE BOLSHEVIST REVOLUTION of October, 1917 [1], did not overthrow the Kerensky government alone, it overthrew the whole social system that was based on private property.”
Leon Trotsky: Literature and Revolution (1. Pre-Revolutionary Art)




Exactly what the Democrat's "Occupy Wall Street" was all about.
In addition, the Democrats created the eco-fascists who regulate private property out of the hands of rightful owners.

1. Perhaps some know that before it became “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to “life, liberty, and property.” Property Rights Have Personal Parallels
   1. Under United States law the principal limitations on whether and the extent to which the State may interfere with property rights are set by the Constitution. The "Takings" clause requires that the government (whether state or federal—for the 14th Amendment's due process clause imposes the 5th Amendment's takings clause on state governments) may take private property only for a public purpose, after exercising due process of law, and upon making "just compensation." Right to property - Wikipedia
2. That said, the ‘Eco-Fascists’ have managed the sequestration of productive land unmatched since the age of kings. Over 30% of the American land base lies under no-use or limited-use restrictions….almost 700 million acres. The Bureau of Land Management and the Department of the Interior are targeting the confiscation of another 213 million acres, bringing the count to nearly half of the continent! http://r-calfusa.com/Trade/property_rights/100900BLMLeakedMemo.pdf

OWS's goals included a reduction in the influence of corporations on politics,[59] more balanced distribution of income,[59] more and better jobs,[59] bank reform[40] (especially to curtail speculative trading by banks), forgiveness of student loan debt[59][60] or other relief for indebted students,[61][62] and alleviation of the foreclosure situation.[63]

I think it was more of a protest of corruption and income inequality than anything else.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

Obama Set To Propose Taxes On Capital Gains, Inheritance, And Wall Street - Shadowproof

No Dem I know of supports the abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes. Link or Lie?

"Democrats own Antifa, just like they owned Occupy


Posted by William A. Jacobson Saturday, August 19, 2017 at 9:30pm
The Antifa street thugs who have rampaged on college campuses and cities long before Charlottesville have been embraced by the anti-Trump Democratic Resistance.

This should come as no surprise, because Democrats also embraced the Occupy Wall Street movement, from which the Antifa movement evolved, As discussed in my prior post, both are the outgrowth of the Black Bloc anarchists and Marxists, Gathering Storms And Threats to Liberty."
Democrats own Antifa, just like they owned Occupy



" OCCUPY WALL STREET GENIUS SAYS HE’S AGAINST “PRIVATE” PROPERTY, NOT “PERSONAL” PROPERTY
....that’s because he wants to keep his iPad 2, naturally, and not share it with the shiftless vagrants fighting over access to one of the three Porta-Potties recently delivered to the now-evacuated camp site in lower Manhattan.
http://humanevents.com/2011/11/17/o...ainst-private-property-not-personal-property/




Did you want a link for "water is wet," too, you dunce.

So you found someone who, Kevin Bacon-like, links someone against private property to the Dems. Flimsy at best. Is Jacobson even a Dem?

Mayor de Bolshevik

This organization describes its mission as to "develop and disseminate new ideas that foster greater economic choice and individual responsibility. Not surprising they would take issue with the Mayor. Most Dems would take issue with the mayor. As I recall he got zero traction from the Dems as a Presidential candidate.

The Democratic Party is betraying old school Democrats. I'm wondering how long it will take most to figure out that party doesn't reflect your values.

 

[alang1216]

The Democratic Party is betraying old school Democrats. I'm wondering how long it will take most to figure out that party doesn't reflect your values.

There is truth in what you say. The question then becomes, who will offer an alternative? Trump certainly isn't it as he has done the same thing to the GOP.

 

[PoliticalChic]

“THE BOLSHEVIST REVOLUTION of October, 1917 [1], did not overthrow the Kerensky government alone, it overthrew the whole social system that was based on private property.”
Leon Trotsky: Literature and Revolution (1. Pre-Revolutionary Art)




Exactly what the Democrat's "Occupy Wall Street" was all about.
In addition, the Democrats created the eco-fascists who regulate private property out of the hands of rightful owners.

1. Perhaps some know that before it became “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” in our Declaration of Independence, John Locke wrote that man has a right to “life, liberty, and property.” Property Rights Have Personal Parallels
   1. Under United States law the principal limitations on whether and the extent to which the State may interfere with property rights are set by the Constitution. The "Takings" clause requires that the government (whether state or federal—for the 14th Amendment's due process clause imposes the 5th Amendment's takings clause on state governments) may take private property only for a public purpose, after exercising due process of law, and upon making "just compensation." Right to property - Wikipedia
2. That said, the ‘Eco-Fascists’ have managed the sequestration of productive land unmatched since the age of kings. Over 30% of the American land base lies under no-use or limited-use restrictions….almost 700 million acres. The Bureau of Land Management and the Department of the Interior are targeting the confiscation of another 213 million acres, bringing the count to nearly half of the continent! http://r-calfusa.com/Trade/property_rights/100900BLMLeakedMemo.pdf

OWS's goals included a reduction in the influence of corporations on politics,[59] more balanced distribution of income,[59] more and better jobs,[59] bank reform[40] (especially to curtail speculative trading by banks), forgiveness of student loan debt[59][60] or other relief for indebted students,[61][62] and alleviation of the foreclosure situation.[63]

I think it was more of a protest of corruption and income inequality than anything else.

"I think it was more of a protest of corruption and income inequality than anything else."

Please avoid the use of "I think," as it produces peals of laughter in readers.

 

[xyz]

This thread is 100% about half-truths and propaganda.

So Communists are atheists, o.k. I agree. No I don't like Communists.

But then to say all leftists are Communists, and they are all atheists, is nonsense. And there are even some Catholic priests which have some leftist ideas.

Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie.

And if you want to go there, then o.k., Trump was also a Democrat, so all the scum of the earth arguments can be put against him even with this type of "reasoning".

 

[alang1216]

"I think it was more of a protest of corruption and income inequality than anything else."

Please avoid the use of "I think," as it produces peals of laughter in readers.

When you don't like the message, you shoot the messenger. Nice.

 

[rightwinger]

Liberals are more in touch with morality than the Bible is

 

[rightwinger]

This thread is 100% about half-truths and propaganda.

So Communists are atheists, o.k. I agree. No I don't like Communists.

But then to say all leftists are Communists, and they are all atheists, is nonsense. And there are even some Catholic priests which have some leftist ideas.

Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie.

And if you want to go there, then o.k., Trump was also a Democrat, so all the scum of the earth arguments can be put against him even with this type of "reasoning".

It’s just a PC thread......she does like to troll

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread is 100% about half-truths and propaganda.

So Communists are atheists, o.k. I agree. No I don't like Communists.

But then to say all leftists are Communists, and they are all atheists, is nonsense. And there are even some Catholic priests which have some leftist ideas.

Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie.

And if you want to go there, then o.k., Trump was also a Democrat, so all the scum of the earth arguments can be put against him even with this type of "reasoning".

"Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie."

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Let's check, ducky

Today’s Democrat Party is closer to Lee Harvey Oswald, than to John F. Kennedy.




Hmmm......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

These were listed as the aims of the communist party, (CPUSA) after the war, and, to an almost 100% extent, they the same as today's Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.



1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.





4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.





7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."





9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."







10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?



I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals




10 planks of Communist manifesto

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

 

[Penelope]

The delima for the God Haters:

While government school grads have no difficulty scoffing at the existence of God, or an afterlife, there is no way they can deny everything around us, the universe itself....

Ask 'em to explain how it got here, and there is that deer-in-the-headlights face.



…everything—with the exception of God—has a beginning. Prior to God’s creating, there was nothing. That includes time. Thanks to Einstein, we know that time, too, had a beginning. God, therefore, also created time, which means God exists not only outside of nature but outside of time. God precedes time and will outlive time.

…unlike pre-Bible creation stories, there is complete silence regarding a birth of the deity. The God of Genesis 1:1, the God of the Bible, is not born….a god who is completely separate from nature—because God created nature. God, for the first time, is not part of nature.


So, if the basic description of God is that He is a creator….’the Creator’….it puts atheists at this disadvantage. None can deny that everything is here, has been created, and even atheistic science calls for a beginning, that Big Bang…..

…..then, what was there before the Big Bang?
At least religious folks have an explanation….
The Rational Bible: Genesis by Dennis Prager - Book - Read Online




Is there any basis to doubt a Creator???

Of course there isn't.




Taught in government school that there is no God, and to be amused that others adhere to such ….superstition….the graduated secularists turn from the clear and evident fact that they and everything around them, exists.



And no matter how one cuts it, the explanation that the question of origin provides is

a) everything always existed, or

b) things created themselves….or….

c) there must have been a Creator. This choice is most palatable, logically.


The discussion can then proceed to an afterlife.

You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"I think it was more of a protest of corruption and income inequality than anything else."

Please avoid the use of "I think," as it produces peals of laughter in readers.

When you don't like the message, you shoot the messenger. Nice.

Drama queen much?

 

[xyz]

This thread is 100% about half-truths and propaganda.

So Communists are atheists, o.k. I agree. No I don't like Communists.

But then to say all leftists are Communists, and they are all atheists, is nonsense. And there are even some Catholic priests which have some leftist ideas.

Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie.

And if you want to go there, then o.k., Trump was also a Democrat, so all the scum of the earth arguments can be put against him even with this type of "reasoning".

"Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie."

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Let's check, ducky

Today’s Democrat Party is closer to Lee Harvey Oswald, than to John F. Kennedy.




Hmmm......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

These were listed as the aims of the communist party, (CPUSA) after the war, and, to an almost 100% extent, they the same as today's Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.



1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.





4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.





7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."





9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."







10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?



I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals




10 planks of Communist manifesto

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

O.k. fine. You're a libtard. You support Trump, who was a member of the Democratic party. Once a libtard always a libtart. So shut your yap libtard.

 

[Penelope]

no, they want nothing to do with the forged 4th century book of deception -

View attachment 301275

that tramps on innocents for their vial rewards.

Why that picture of Democrats marching???



And why have you avoided the OP that brought you slithering in?


This:

1.The Bible, to the amusement of secularists, points out that human beings have free will, and can use it to better themselves, and the world.

For Leftists, one need not strive to better oneself, after all the great god, government, will take care of you from cradle to grave. And…make no mistake: government is their god.



2. “Even if one does not consider the liberal administrations of the recent past fascist, Mr. Goldberg is correct to see the liberalism of today to be state worship, which built upon the original statist liberalism of the Wilson administration. Mr. Goldberg has, unlike the leftists who yell the term, made the strongest possible case that Americans today live in a soft form of fascism, a statist liberal society whose citizens are unaware of the roots of ideas they hold.” America's 'Fascist Moment' A review of Liberal Fascism




3. Now let’s get to the lesson in Genesis 4:7

“Sin is crouching at the door, eager to control you. But you must subdue it and be its master.”

“The statement “yet you can be its master” is one of the Torah’s most important statements. It means we have moral free will. That we can rule over our desire to do wrong is the most empowering idea in life. The only way we can end bad behavior….actions that are either destructive to others or to ourselves—is to first recognize that we “can be its master.” Dennis Prager


We on the Right refer to it as ‘personal responsibility.’


Liberals have a very different view,…put your faith in government. “ We try and discourage people from self help." – Former MASS A.G. Coakley



4. The corollary to free will is discipline, self-control.
“That many parents work harder to instill self-esteem than self-control in their children is a moral tragedy. And, ironically, no self-esteem can equal the self-esteem that derives from self-control.” Prager



Included in Genesis 4:7… be its master …is the recognition of God’s special accommodations toward mankind:
Generous to a fault.....so to speak.
It is deeply important to understand the two most human gifts, intelligence and free will.
...at the heart of religion....and by religion I mean the Judeo-Christian faith.....
....is free will.


And that free will is animated by, and requires the application of the gift of intelligence.




So....you were unable to find anything to dispute?

Excellent.

.
The Bible vs Liberalism

Why that picture of Democrats marching???


And why have you avoided the OP that brought you slithering in?

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you are a broken record, pc - as you are aware the bible belt are whatever political party that is reactionary at the time of their participation ... their true color is the forged, 4th century christian bible the same as your own deleterious persuasion.

your benefactor, tramp stole their slogan, you are two peas in a pod.

These are all Democrats.

The beatings will continue until you prove that you are learning.



"Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

He says he's retracting his endorsement of Donald Trump.



By Rachel Dicker, Associate Editor, Social Media March 14, 2016, at 5:27 p.m.

More



Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

More

HILLARY CLINTON CAN ADD a new name to her list of endorsements – a prominent Ku Klux Klan member who says he likes her because of her "hidden agenda."
Will Quigg, a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan's California chapter, told the Telegraph Monday that he would be switching his support from Donald Trump to Clinton." https://www.usnews.com/news/article...-quigg-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

.

These are all Democrats.

These are all christians.

I fix that for you pc - who do you think you are kidding, you and tramp are one in the same - losers.

"...you and tramp are one in the same - losers"


Let's check.


80. "Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

• Wages and salaries rose 3.1 percent in the third quarter, the biggest increase in a decade, according to the Labor Department.
• Overall compensation costs were up 2.8 percent, ahead of Wall Street expectations." Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

81. “Job growth surges by 312,000 in December” Job growth surges by 312,000 in December
82. "Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring"
Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring


"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. "
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

83. "Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

(CNSNews.com) - The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,288,000 in July, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


That was up 283,000 from the 157,005,000 employed in June."

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July


84. “…Planned Parenthood announced that it would withdraw from Title X, a federal family planning program that helps poor women access birth control and other health services. As a result, the organization will lose about $60 million a year in federal funding. The decision was made in response to a new Trump administration rule which forbids Title X clinics from referring patients for abortions.” Planned Parenthood Just Lost $60M in Funding. What Does That Mean for Women?
85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-136000-jobs-in-september-unemployment-rate-hits-50-year-low-2019-10-04
86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/huge-october-payrolls-beat-128k-jobs-added-black-unemployment-rate-hits-all-time-low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart

93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History





Your post became a boomerang, huh?

I just might vote for Bloomberg, he isn't a baby in a grown mans body, didn't get a trust fund, didn't have serial bankruptcies, isn't a serial adulterer, and isn't a con man, and doesn't depend on foreign countries to get elected and stay in office.

Another thing he won't have the Evangelicals hanging all over him,
which is a big plus.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The delima for the God Haters:

While government school grads have no difficulty scoffing at the existence of God, or an afterlife, there is no way they can deny everything around us, the universe itself....

Ask 'em to explain how it got here, and there is that deer-in-the-headlights face.



…everything—with the exception of God—has a beginning. Prior to God’s creating, there was nothing. That includes time. Thanks to Einstein, we know that time, too, had a beginning. God, therefore, also created time, which means God exists not only outside of nature but outside of time. God precedes time and will outlive time.

…unlike pre-Bible creation stories, there is complete silence regarding a birth of the deity. The God of Genesis 1:1, the God of the Bible, is not born….a god who is completely separate from nature—because God created nature. God, for the first time, is not part of nature.


So, if the basic description of God is that He is a creator….’the Creator’….it puts atheists at this disadvantage. None can deny that everything is here, has been created, and even atheistic science calls for a beginning, that Big Bang…..

…..then, what was there before the Big Bang?
At least religious folks have an explanation….
The Rational Bible: Genesis by Dennis Prager - Book - Read Online




Is there any basis to doubt a Creator???

Of course there isn't.




Taught in government school that there is no God, and to be amused that others adhere to such ….superstition….the graduated secularists turn from the clear and evident fact that they and everything around them, exists.



And no matter how one cuts it, the explanation that the question of origin provides is

a) everything always existed, or

b) things created themselves….or….

c) there must have been a Creator. This choice is most palatable, logically.


The discussion can then proceed to an afterlife.

You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

"You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name."


Hmmm.......I've never said what my faith is....perhaps I'm a Druid.....I like trees and I look good in blue.

And it is truly amusing that you are watching out for Christianity.....how nice.


But.....your vapid post, as is your wont, has nothing to do with the post to which you've linked.

Focus and concentration aren't among your gifts, huh?

 

[Penelope]

The delima for the God Haters:

While government school grads have no difficulty scoffing at the existence of God, or an afterlife, there is no way they can deny everything around us, the universe itself....

Ask 'em to explain how it got here, and there is that deer-in-the-headlights face.



…everything—with the exception of God—has a beginning. Prior to God’s creating, there was nothing. That includes time. Thanks to Einstein, we know that time, too, had a beginning. God, therefore, also created time, which means God exists not only outside of nature but outside of time. God precedes time and will outlive time.

…unlike pre-Bible creation stories, there is complete silence regarding a birth of the deity. The God of Genesis 1:1, the God of the Bible, is not born….a god who is completely separate from nature—because God created nature. God, for the first time, is not part of nature.


So, if the basic description of God is that He is a creator….’the Creator’….it puts atheists at this disadvantage. None can deny that everything is here, has been created, and even atheistic science calls for a beginning, that Big Bang…..

…..then, what was there before the Big Bang?
At least religious folks have an explanation….
The Rational Bible: Genesis by Dennis Prager - Book - Read Online




Is there any basis to doubt a Creator???

Of course there isn't.




Taught in government school that there is no God, and to be amused that others adhere to such ….superstition….the graduated secularists turn from the clear and evident fact that they and everything around them, exists.



And no matter how one cuts it, the explanation that the question of origin provides is

a) everything always existed, or

b) things created themselves….or….

c) there must have been a Creator. This choice is most palatable, logically.


The discussion can then proceed to an afterlife.

You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

"You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name."


Hmmm.......I've never said what my faith is....perhaps I'm a Druid.....I like trees and I look good in blue.

And it is truly amusing that you are watching out for Christianity.....how nice.


But.....your vapid post, as is your wont, has nothing to do with the post to which you've linked.

Focus and concentration aren't among your gifts, huh?

I just might vote for Bloomberg, he isn't a baby in a grown mans body, didn't get a trust fund, didn't have serial bankruptcies, isn't a serial adulterer, and isn't a con man, and doesn't depend on foreign countries to get elected and stay in office.

Another thing he won't have the Evangelicals hanging all over him,
which is a HUGE plus.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread is 100% about half-truths and propaganda.

So Communists are atheists, o.k. I agree. No I don't like Communists.

But then to say all leftists are Communists, and they are all atheists, is nonsense. And there are even some Catholic priests which have some leftist ideas.

Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie.

And if you want to go there, then o.k., Trump was also a Democrat, so all the scum of the earth arguments can be put against him even with this type of "reasoning".

"Then to go and say all Democrats are Communists is a completely lie."

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....it's a duck.
Let's check, ducky

Today’s Democrat Party is closer to Lee Harvey Oswald, than to John F. Kennedy.




Hmmm......it is ...extraordinary.....the correspondence between the aims of the communist party and the aims of the Democrats.....

These were listed as the aims of the communist party, (CPUSA) after the war, and, to an almost 100% extent, they the same as today's Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.



1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.





4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.





7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."





9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."







10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?



I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals




10 planks of Communist manifesto

Communist Manifesto 10 Planks

O.k. fine. You're a libtard. You support Trump, who was a member of the Democratic party. Once a libtard always a libtart. So shut your yap libtard.

"You support Trump, ..."


I'm an adult, I support policies, not persons.
It is you Liberals who called your candidate god, Jesus and the messiah.


As a result of my support for conservative policies, we have the best economy in decades.

Say "Thank you, Trump voters."


80. "Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

• Wages and salaries rose 3.1 percent in the third quarter, the biggest increase in a decade, according to the Labor Department.
• Overall compensation costs were up 2.8 percent, ahead of Wall Street expectations." Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

81. “Job growth surges by 312,000 in December” Job growth surges by 312,000 in December
82. "Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring"
Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring


"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. "
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

83. "Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

(CNSNews.com) - The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,288,000 in July, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


That was up 283,000 from the 157,005,000 employed in June."

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July


84. “…Planned Parenthood announced that it would withdraw from Title X, a federal family planning program that helps poor women access birth control and other health services. As a result, the organization will lose about $60 million a year in federal funding. The decision was made in response to a new Trump administration rule which forbids Title X clinics from referring patients for abortions.” Planned Parenthood Just Lost $60M in Funding. What Does That Mean for Women?
85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-136000-jobs-in-september-unemployment-rate-hits-50-year-low-2019-10-04
86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/huge-october-payrolls-beat-128k-jobs-added-black-unemployment-rate-hits-all-time-low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000


90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart
93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why that picture of Democrats marching???



And why have you avoided the OP that brought you slithering in?


This:

1.The Bible, to the amusement of secularists, points out that human beings have free will, and can use it to better themselves, and the world.

For Leftists, one need not strive to better oneself, after all the great god, government, will take care of you from cradle to grave. And…make no mistake: government is their god.



2. “Even if one does not consider the liberal administrations of the recent past fascist, Mr. Goldberg is correct to see the liberalism of today to be state worship, which built upon the original statist liberalism of the Wilson administration. Mr. Goldberg has, unlike the leftists who yell the term, made the strongest possible case that Americans today live in a soft form of fascism, a statist liberal society whose citizens are unaware of the roots of ideas they hold.” America's 'Fascist Moment' A review of Liberal Fascism




3. Now let’s get to the lesson in Genesis 4:7

“Sin is crouching at the door, eager to control you. But you must subdue it and be its master.”

“The statement “yet you can be its master” is one of the Torah’s most important statements. It means we have moral free will. That we can rule over our desire to do wrong is the most empowering idea in life. The only way we can end bad behavior….actions that are either destructive to others or to ourselves—is to first recognize that we “can be its master.” Dennis Prager


We on the Right refer to it as ‘personal responsibility.’


Liberals have a very different view,…put your faith in government. “ We try and discourage people from self help." – Former MASS A.G. Coakley



4. The corollary to free will is discipline, self-control.
“That many parents work harder to instill self-esteem than self-control in their children is a moral tragedy. And, ironically, no self-esteem can equal the self-esteem that derives from self-control.” Prager



Included in Genesis 4:7… be its master …is the recognition of God’s special accommodations toward mankind:
Generous to a fault.....so to speak.
It is deeply important to understand the two most human gifts, intelligence and free will.
...at the heart of religion....and by religion I mean the Judeo-Christian faith.....
....is free will.


And that free will is animated by, and requires the application of the gift of intelligence.




So....you were unable to find anything to dispute?

Excellent.

.
The Bible vs Liberalism

Why that picture of Democrats marching???


And why have you avoided the OP that brought you slithering in?

View attachment 301476


you are a broken record, pc - as you are aware the bible belt are whatever political party that is reactionary at the time of their participation ... their true color is the forged, 4th century christian bible the same as your own deleterious persuasion.

your benefactor, tramp stole their slogan, you are two peas in a pod.

These are all Democrats.

The beatings will continue until you prove that you are learning.



"Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

He says he's retracting his endorsement of Donald Trump.



By Rachel Dicker, Associate Editor, Social Media March 14, 2016, at 5:27 p.m.

More



Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon Will Quigg Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

More

HILLARY CLINTON CAN ADD a new name to her list of endorsements – a prominent Ku Klux Klan member who says he likes her because of her "hidden agenda."
Will Quigg, a grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan's California chapter, told the Telegraph Monday that he would be switching his support from Donald Trump to Clinton." https://www.usnews.com/news/article...-quigg-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

.

These are all Democrats.

These are all christians.

I fix that for you pc - who do you think you are kidding, you and tramp are one in the same - losers.

"...you and tramp are one in the same - losers"


Let's check.


80. "Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

• Wages and salaries rose 3.1 percent in the third quarter, the biggest increase in a decade, according to the Labor Department.
• Overall compensation costs were up 2.8 percent, ahead of Wall Street expectations." Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

81. “Job growth surges by 312,000 in December” Job growth surges by 312,000 in December
82. "Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring"
Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring


"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. "
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

83. "Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

(CNSNews.com) - The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,288,000 in July, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


That was up 283,000 from the 157,005,000 employed in June."

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July


84. “…Planned Parenthood announced that it would withdraw from Title X, a federal family planning program that helps poor women access birth control and other health services. As a result, the organization will lose about $60 million a year in federal funding. The decision was made in response to a new Trump administration rule which forbids Title X clinics from referring patients for abortions.” Planned Parenthood Just Lost $60M in Funding. What Does That Mean for Women?
85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-136000-jobs-in-september-unemployment-rate-hits-50-year-low-2019-10-04
86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/huge-october-payrolls-beat-128k-jobs-added-black-unemployment-rate-hits-all-time-low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart

93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History





Your post became a boomerang, huh?

I just might vote for Bloomberg, he isn't a baby in a grown mans body, didn't get a trust fund, didn't have serial bankruptcies, isn't a serial adulterer, and isn't a con man, and doesn't depend on foreign countries to get elected and stay in office.

Another thing he won't have the Evangelicals hanging all over him,
which is a big plus.

Soooo.....who's gonna win in November?

 

[PoliticalChic]

The delima for the God Haters:

While government school grads have no difficulty scoffing at the existence of God, or an afterlife, there is no way they can deny everything around us, the universe itself....

Ask 'em to explain how it got here, and there is that deer-in-the-headlights face.



…everything—with the exception of God—has a beginning. Prior to God’s creating, there was nothing. That includes time. Thanks to Einstein, we know that time, too, had a beginning. God, therefore, also created time, which means God exists not only outside of nature but outside of time. God precedes time and will outlive time.

…unlike pre-Bible creation stories, there is complete silence regarding a birth of the deity. The God of Genesis 1:1, the God of the Bible, is not born….a god who is completely separate from nature—because God created nature. God, for the first time, is not part of nature.


So, if the basic description of God is that He is a creator….’the Creator’….it puts atheists at this disadvantage. None can deny that everything is here, has been created, and even atheistic science calls for a beginning, that Big Bang…..

…..then, what was there before the Big Bang?
At least religious folks have an explanation….
The Rational Bible: Genesis by Dennis Prager - Book - Read Online




Is there any basis to doubt a Creator???

Of course there isn't.




Taught in government school that there is no God, and to be amused that others adhere to such ….superstition….the graduated secularists turn from the clear and evident fact that they and everything around them, exists.



And no matter how one cuts it, the explanation that the question of origin provides is

a) everything always existed, or

b) things created themselves….or….

c) there must have been a Creator. This choice is most palatable, logically.


The discussion can then proceed to an afterlife.

You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

"You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name."


Hmmm.......I've never said what my faith is....perhaps I'm a Druid.....I like trees and I look good in blue.

And it is truly amusing that you are watching out for Christianity.....how nice.


But.....your vapid post, as is your wont, has nothing to do with the post to which you've linked.

Focus and concentration aren't among your gifts, huh?

I just might vote for Bloomberg, he isn't a baby in a grown mans body, didn't get a trust fund, didn't have serial bankruptcies, isn't a serial adulterer, and isn't a con man, and doesn't depend on foreign countries to get elected and stay in office.

Another thing he won't have the Evangelicals hanging all over him,
which is a HUGE plus.

Did you see this?



80. "Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

• Wages and salaries rose 3.1 percent in the third quarter, the biggest increase in a decade, according to the Labor Department.
• Overall compensation costs were up 2.8 percent, ahead of Wall Street expectations." Wages and salaries jump by 3.1%, highest level in a decade

81. “Job growth surges by 312,000 in December” Job growth surges by 312,000 in December
82. "Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring"
Unemployment hits 49-year low as US employers step up hiring


"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. "
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

83. "Record 157,288,000 Employed in July

(CNSNews.com) - The number of people employed in the United States hit a record 157,288,000 in July, according to the employment report released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


That was up 283,000 from the 157,005,000 employed in June."

Record 157,288,000 Employed in July


84. “…Planned Parenthood announced that it would withdraw from Title X, a federal family planning program that helps poor women access birth control and other health services. As a result, the organization will lose about $60 million a year in federal funding. The decision was made in response to a new Trump administration rule which forbids Title X clinics from referring patients for abortions.” Planned Parenthood Just Lost $60M in Funding. What Does That Mean for Women?
85. “U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low”
Published: Oct 4, 2019 10:32 a.m. ET

U.S. adds 136,000 jobs in September, unemployment rate hits 50-year low
86. “Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump” Record 158,510,000 Americans Employed in October; 23rd Record for Trump
87. “Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low”
Huge October Payrolls Beat: 128K Jobs Added As Black Unemployment Rate Hits All Time Low
88. “Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied to record levels on Friday, reaching 28,000 for the first time ever…” Dow jumps more than 200 points to 28,000, posts 4-week winning streak
89. “Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 266,000 in November, better than the 187,000 expected by economists polled by Dow Jones.

The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.5% from 3.6%, back to the 2019 low and matching the lowest jobless rate since 1969.

Average hourly earnings rose by 3.1% from a year ago, slightly above the 3% expected by economists polled by Dow Jones. Jobs growth soars in November as payrolls surge by 266,000


90. “CNN Poll: US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years
(CNN)As 2019 comes to a close, the US economy earns its highest ratings in almost two decades, potentially boosting President Donald Trump in matchups against the Democrats vying to face him in next year's election, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.’” US economy receives its best ranking in nearly 20 years, CNN poll finds - CNNPolitics

91." Appointing conservative judges is the one objective that unites the Republican Party. It is one of the few things the Senate can do without the House.

And it is something that immediately impacts public policy because, during times of divided government, many political fights end up being resolved judicially.

Trump may not have the “best people” representing him or running his White House, but he’s picking them to be judges. Indeed, “based solely on objective legal credentials,” left-leaning Vox’s Ian Millhiser says, “the average Trump appointee has a far more impressive résumé than any past president’s nominees.”
Approximately 40 percent of Trump’s appellate nominees clerked for a Supreme Court justice, and about 80 percent clerked on a federal court of appeals. That compares to less than a quarter of Obama’s nominees who clerked on the Supreme Court, and less than half with a federal appellate clerkship."
All We Want for Christmas is More Judges: Ho, Ho, Ho

92. “China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years
China’s economy was weighed down by U.S. tariffs…” China Says Economic Growth Fell to Lowest in 30 Years | Breitbart
93. “Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History” Boom! Trump Has The Lowest Average Unemployment Rate of Any President in Recorded History



Who did you say would win in November?

 

[rightwinger]

The delima for the God Haters:

While government school grads have no difficulty scoffing at the existence of God, or an afterlife, there is no way they can deny everything around us, the universe itself....

Ask 'em to explain how it got here, and there is that deer-in-the-headlights face.



…everything—with the exception of God—has a beginning. Prior to God’s creating, there was nothing. That includes time. Thanks to Einstein, we know that time, too, had a beginning. God, therefore, also created time, which means God exists not only outside of nature but outside of time. God precedes time and will outlive time.

…unlike pre-Bible creation stories, there is complete silence regarding a birth of the deity. The God of Genesis 1:1, the God of the Bible, is not born….a god who is completely separate from nature—because God created nature. God, for the first time, is not part of nature.


So, if the basic description of God is that He is a creator….’the Creator’….it puts atheists at this disadvantage. None can deny that everything is here, has been created, and even atheistic science calls for a beginning, that Big Bang…..

…..then, what was there before the Big Bang?
At least religious folks have an explanation….
The Rational Bible: Genesis by Dennis Prager - Book - Read Online




Is there any basis to doubt a Creator???

Of course there isn't.




Taught in government school that there is no God, and to be amused that others adhere to such ….superstition….the graduated secularists turn from the clear and evident fact that they and everything around them, exists.



And no matter how one cuts it, the explanation that the question of origin provides is

a) everything always existed, or

b) things created themselves….or….

c) there must have been a Creator. This choice is most palatable, logically.


The discussion can then proceed to an afterlife.

You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name.

"You Evangelicals give Christianity a bad name."


Hmmm.......I've never said what my faith is....perhaps I'm a Druid.....I like trees and I look good in blue.

And it is truly amusing that you are watching out for Christianity.....how nice.


But.....your vapid post, as is your wont, has nothing to do with the post to which you've linked.

Focus and concentration aren't among your gifts, huh?

I always thought you were a witch