The Beast Revelation
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We seem to have a communication problem .. I have seen a lot of scripture twisting in my time but never means never and certainly not sometimes etc etc..let me repeat the righteous shall never be removed( from the earth) but the wicked will be… You are claiming then that you are wicked as you will be removed… Never means never and burning things up just doesn’t fit the pattern so someone is telling a really big fib to say the least..
30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.Really let’s try simple math.. If Jesus died and was supposedly reserected that would be once… If Saul/ Paul saw him on the road to Damascus that would be twice… If Smith of the mormons saw him before starting his religion that would be three times and if you saw him in your cornflakes, pie etc etc that would be four times so if he shows up again that would be 5 times… Just how long will this scam continue it has been at least close to two thousand years and it is time for the missing Waldo to show up don’t change think… Or shall I mock you like Elijah did to the priests of Baal…
No.. he's talking about Cyrus..when the Jews return from Babylon. No mention of Jesus.
Proverbs 10:30 has reference to the meek inheriting the earth. Yes, the righteous will inherit the earth and it will be inhabited by those who are on the earth that receive celestial glory for the earth will receive a celestial glory. This does not have reference to those who are caught up in the clouds that are over the earth when Jesus makes his 2nd coming appearance for those who are caught up in the clouds to meet him will come back down just as those who take a plane flight and are caught up in the air temporarily. The righteous will inherit the earth forever and ever. This earth will be celestialized and become heaven to those who inherit the earth.
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Jesus was not supposedly resurrected but he was actually resurrected only once. He has appeared several times on earth after being resurrected to an immortal body only once. Yes, he appeared to Paul and yes, he appeared to the prophet Joseph Smith. He will appear again at Adam–Ondi–Ahman and then again in Jerusalem when he sets his foot upon the Mount of Olives and then when he makes his final appearance to all the earth when all the righteous will be caught up in the cloud to meet him. Simple math is that he is resurrected once but makes several appearances before he comes in all his glory to usher in his millennial reign upon the earth and cleanses the earth of all unrighteousness.
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Cyrus? You mean to tell me that after Cyrus "nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more"? LOL!!!
Yes, they were talking about the return to Jerusalem after the exile. Cyrus was the anointed king who facilitated that...and the rebuilding of the temple. You should read Isaiah all the way through instead of in bits and pieces. In context it's not confusing or contradictory.
You're a fool if you think that Cyrus made it so that "nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more".
It's not complicated. Read all of isaiah.
I've read Isaiah multiple times. Stop pretending as if you are the only one on earth who has ever read it.
No problem. I still see clouds as a metaphor, not for people, but mystery. And Jesus being obscured, removed from sight behind a cloud, is enough confirmation for me not to mention the prophecy of him emerging from the clouds that have obscured him and his teaching, hidden from comprehension, for millennia. Maybe you should read the Gospels written by dedicated Jewish people where many metaphors from "the old testament', (pardon my French) are revealed to the intelligent. Circumcision, phylacteries, sin itself, that lower beasts are OBVIOUS metaphors for human archetypes which has direct implications to the laws of ritual slaughter, that teaching is a metaphor for food that has direct implications to the true subject of Kosher law, manna, the food of angels, represents Divine instruction, that the law is revealed as the firmament, basis, of the kingdom of heaven, the realm of God, who needs no dwelling place or fancy temple built by HUMAN HANDS in which people in fancy robes slaughter farm animals. Think 666, Solomon, and the vile blood thirsty beast that arose from this sick system of religious and political fornication.
That being said clouds are above the heads of people on earth. A lot of people on earth dressed in white is just a lot of confused and vain people dressed in white. Nothing mysterious about that.
The entire concept is absurd. People must ascend into heaven. God will never descend into hell.
"As heaven is higher than the earth, my ways are higher than your ways; my thoughts higher than your thoughts"
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Will bring judgment? No. He already has brought judgment, a very very very long time ago.
"I have not come to bring peace but a sword"
"Take, from my hand, this cup of fiery wine and make all the nations to whom I send you drink it. When they have drunk it they will vomit and go mad; such is the sword that I am sending among them"
"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations"
"Take this cup of wine and drink from it, all of you. This is a cup of my blood, the blood of the covenant"
Just art thou, in these thy judgments, thou Holy One who art and wast; for they shed the blood of thy people and of thy prophets and thou hast given them blood to drink"
He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
WAKE UP! THE SWORD IS A CURSE UNDER THE APPEARANCE OF A CUP OF WINE. Damn.
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It is. As long as your imagination is rational. Being "taken up into heaven" is a euphemism.
Whenever someone sided with Jesus they became subjected to the same controversy and false accusations and were "caught up in the clouds" that he disappeared behind after his ascension
"Men of Galilee, why stand there looking up into the sky? This Jesus who has been taken from you into heaven will come in the same way you have seen him go." If Jesus was literally in a cloud why would the men in white question why they were looking up into the sky? Think! You can do it!
He will return in the same way they saw him go, in the midst of a cloud of malicious calumny.
Do you have the balls, er, faith, to break away from the pack and willingly suffer that, believer?
You aren't waiting for Jesus to come. He is waiting for you to ascend. He is already in the clouds.
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Says the guy who thinks Leviticus 18:22 isn't a command against having homosexual relations.
There's no mention of Jesus in Isaiah.
These early chapters of Second Isaiah introduce Cyrus the Persian king as the agent of Yahweh’s deliverance of Israel in exile. In 45:1 Yahweh grants Cyrus the title of “Messiah” and in 48:14 he declares his love for the Persian ruler. It would be Cyrus who defeats the Babylonians, releases Israel from its captivity, and provides the returnees the means to rebuild the Temple. Second Isaiah’s task is to convince a dubious exilic community that Yahweh is using a pagan king to accomplish his redemptive purposes for his chosen people.
According to Second Isaiah Yahweh holds both the Servant and Cyrus by their right hand (42:6; 45:1), calls upon them by name (43:1; 45:3-4), and calls them in righteousness (42:6; 45:13). Cyrus, like the Servant of Yahweh, will bring forth justice (42:1, 3-4) and liberate prisoners (42:7).
So what. Moses only spoke of God sending another prophet, like him, to reveal all his commands.
Jesus didn't have this common name when Isaiah was written, he wasn't born yet. Just like in rev:
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give the hidden manna to eat. And I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written, which no one knows except he who receives it.
Just like when Jesus spoke of God sending another, the Advocate, he wasn't born or named yet...
What if his name is Tony from New York? Will you then say that Jesus never mentioned any Tony?
Smarten up.
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He didn't go by the name, "Jesus", in the Old Testament. He was the Lord, the Redeemer. Jesus was the Great I AM.
Isaiah 54
8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the Lord thy Redeemer. 9 For this ...Isaiah 49
7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings ...Isaiah 48
... Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit ...
Isaiah 41
Chapter 41. To Israel the Lord says, Ye are my servants; I will preserve you—Idols are nothing—One will bring good tidings to Jerusalem.
Isaiah 44
6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. 7 And who, as I, ...
Isaiah 43
To Israel the Lord says, I am your God; I will gather your descendants; beside me there is no Savior; you are my witnesses.
Isaiah 63
The Second Coming will be a day of vengeance and also the year of the redeemed of the Lord—Then the Saints will praise the Lord and acknowledge Him as their ...
Isaiah 60
16 Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the ...
Isaiah 47
3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man. 4 As for our redeemer, the Lord of ...Isaiah 9
Isaiah speaks about the Messiah—The people in darkness will see a great Light—Unto us a Child is born—He will be the Prince of Peace and reign on David's ...
Isaiah 59
The people of Israel are separated from their God by iniquity—Their sins testify against them—The Messiah will intercede, come to Zion, and redeem the ...
Isaiah 53
10 ¶ Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong ...So it pleased the Lord to bruise the Lord?
I don't think so.
God is the Lord and savior of Israel. Jesus, the messiah, a common Jewish man, just taught and demonstrated the only right way to comply with the commands of God that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life here and now, by revealing the hidden subjects of the Law.
Exactly as they were revealed to him by the only living God, the Lord and savior of mankind.
Even Jesus said that he did not speak of his own accord but said only what God told him to say.
Jesus was just a man chosen by God to bear witness to the truth. There never was nor will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence.
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Isaiah 53 is about God's servant Israel.
Post a source for your list. Is that your LDS rewrite? God is the redeemer of his servant Israel (Jacob) who he loves.
Immanuel Is Hezekiah.
By what authority do you change the Bible?
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