Zone1 The "Baby Mama" phenomenon in Black culture. The flip side of 75 percent Fatherless homes.

[Concerned American]

Usually the unmarried welfare mother of illegitimate black children does not know who the fathers are.

I have known a few black women who chose to get pregnant out of wedlock because they didn't want to deal with a man. Race doesn't seem to be a factor as these women often chose white or other POC.

 

[Hector12]

I have known a few black women who chose to get pregnant out of wedlock because they didn't want to deal with a man. Race doesn't seem to be a factor as these women often chose white or other POC.

A woman who does that should not qualify for welfare assistance for herself or hier illegitimate children.

 

[Concerned American]

A woman who does that should not qualify for welfare assistance for herself or hier illegitimate children.

Surprisingly, not one of them was on public assistance--hard working women.

 

[MizMolly]

It's interesting that you bring this subject up, MarathonMike. I've been studying the the legal doctrine created in 1662 in colonial Virginia, that stated a baby followed the status of it's Mother. So, if the Mother was a slave the baby would be a slave, no matter who the Father was. This law gave White slavemasters the green light to rape and impregnate their female slaves with no consequences on their part. (Those slavemasters were pretty clever weren't they?)
Isn't it tragic what Black women have been thru? Why did those slavemasters treat those women like that? Didn't they have any morals or decency?

What does your reply have to do with this article? None of those horrendous people are alive now.

 

[Hector12]

Surprisingly, not one of them was on public assistance--hard working women.

That is surprising, all right. They were exceptions.

 

[Lisa558]

I agree they're worse, but how can we identify them?

Usually the unmarried welfare mother of illegitimate black children does not know who the fathers are.

There’s this new invention called a paternity test.

You determine who the father is, require him to get a job, and start garnishing wages which are sent to the mother, the amount of which is deducted from the welfare she gets. If she has four kids, that’s a lot of taxpayer savings.

 

[MarathonMike]

They grow up to be unemployed and unemployable.

That is why the problem needs to be faced and addressed. Absolutely, most of those kids have drug/gangs/jails and an early death in their future.

 

[Lisa558]

What does your reply have to do with this article? None of those horrendous people are alive now.

You made reference to the shameful OOW birthrate in the black community, and she wanted to make sure that it was blamed on what some whites did 150 years ago.

 

[Lisa558]

Vasectomies for irresponsible men who Father multiple children with multiple women would be a logical solution for men OF ANY COLOR who do engage in this behavior.

It would be easier and cheaper to vasectomize the men than sterilize the women. So….give the fathers a choice:

a) get a job and pay child support for each kid, or
b) get a vasectomy.

 

[Concerned American]

It would be easier and cheaper to vasectomize the men than sterilize the women. So….give the fathers a choice:

a) get a job and pay child support for each kid, or
b) get a vasectomy.

Or Both. Which would be preferable.

 

[Hector12]

That is why the problem needs to be faced and addressed. Absolutely, most of those kids have drug/gangs/jails and an early death in their future.

I think the only way to address the problem is to sterilize them and their unmarried mothers. I doubt they have anything to rehabilitate. They also need to be subdued by a draconian criminal justice system.

 

[Hector12]

It would be easier and cheaper to vasectomize the men than sterilize the women. So….give the fathers a choice:

a) get a job and pay child support for each kid, or
b) get a vasectomy.

How are we going to identify the fathers? Paternity is often hypothetical with those people. Frequently the mothers do not know.

 

[Lisa558]

Or Both. Which would be preferable.

Except the prospect of the second option would be the incentive for the first.

 

[Lisa558]

How are we going to identify the fathers? Paternity is often hypothetical with those people. Frequently the mothers do not know.

Well it’s true they likely have had multiple partners in any given month, but I’d wager most of them know who they are.

 

[Hector12]

Nope. Unmarried doesn't mean "fatherless". It just means they aren't spending thousands of dollars on a wedding.

They're not fathers. They're fly by night sperm donors.

 

[Lisa558]

Well it’s true they likely have had multiple partners in any given month, but I’d wager most of them know who they are.

P.S. I know someone who has slept with at least 50 guys, but it’s rare that she’s slept with more than two or three in the same month.

 

[Concerned American]

P.S. I know someone who has slept with at least 50 guys, but it’s rare that she’s slept with more than two or three in the same month.

I bet there wasn't much sleeping going on.

 

[Hector12]

P.S. I know someone who has slept with at least 50 guys, but it’s rare that she’s slept with more than two or three in the same month.

I am confident she is not Jewish.

 

[MarathonMike]

It would be easier and cheaper to vasectomize the men than sterilize the women. So….give the fathers a choice:

a) get a job and pay child support for each kid, or
b) get a vasectomy.

I agree, I'm just thinking of how you get past the hysteria of the Leftists and come up with some practical ways to turn that self destructive behavior around. It takes two to tango. It's Baby Makers taking advantage of the Baby Mamas.

 

[Lisa558]

I am confident she is not Jewish.

You are correct.