The [Awful, Dreadful] Senate Border Bill Is Dead

[justoffal]

And 4 Democrats voted against the bill, as did all but 4 Republicans.

Romney's kids have Ukranian Business interests.

 

[justoffal]

If one uses already taxed income to build new income, the new income should be taxed, yes.

Geezus.....Your teepee means vulture capitalist.

Jo

 

[excalibur]

Romney's kids have Ukranian Business interests.

Much of the ruling class is involved.

Look a how nuts they went when President Trump started asking serious questions about Ukraine, they cobbled together Fauxpeachment I.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not really, since 3 million got into the country on Trump's watch.

3 million in 4 years?
Biden has about 3 million a year.

 

[JoeB131]

Much of the ruling class is involved.

Look a how nuts they went when President Trump started asking serious questions about Ukraine, they cobbled together Fauxpeachment I.

Except Trump didn't ask serious questions.

He tried to get the President of the Ukraine to support whacky conspiracy theories he heard on Fox News.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, he really doesn't.

But it doesn't matter, you guys killed the tools he said he needed to help Trump. Everyone sees youaren't serious if you can wait a year to fix the problem.

He EO away what was working and as I said Congress already gave the president in 2018 all that they need

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Except Trump didn't ask serious questions.

He tried to get the President of the Ukraine to support whacky conspiracy theories he heard on Fox News.

That Biden quid pro quo Ukraine?

 

[JoeB131]

He EO away what was working and as I said Congress already gave the president in 2018 all that they need

Except that what Trump did wasn't working. They were still coming and we weren't dealing with the problem.

Does President Biden need Congress to shut down border?

A border security bill deal has led to a partisan fight.

spectrumlocalnews.com

When asked if Johnson’s interpretation of the Immigration and Nationality Act was correct, Kathleen Bush-Joseph, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, said courts allowed former President Donald Trump to temporarily restrict entry in the U.S. of citizens from mostly Muslim-majority countries. That was not the case when it came to unlawful border crossings.

“President Trump also tried to use that authority at the southwest border, but was blocked by the courts,” Bush-Joseph told Spectrum News. “Which is why President Biden has said that he needs this new authority to be able to prevent people from applying for asylum.”

In 2018, Trump tried to block people from seeking asylum if they crossed the southern border illegally, but the courts stopped him, citing a provision of the law that affords anyone on U.S. soil — no matter how they got there — the right to seek asylum.

“A president doesn't have the unilateral authority to shut down the border. If a president did, the prior president would have done it,” said Alberto Benitez, director of the Immigration Clinic at George Washington University Law School. “Even the prior president, who had a particular perspective on immigration, never shut down the border. There needs to be buy-in from Congress that a border shutdown is necessary, which there never has been.”

Republicans have said Biden could reinstate Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" policy, which required migrants to stay in Mexico as their applications for asylum played out. Trump’s policy was challenged in court and anything like it today would need Mexico’s cooperation. Trump was able to win that help by threatening tariffs on Mexican goods, but Mexico’s government has since vowed to reject any restart of the program.

 

[justoffal]

Much of the ruling class is involved.

Look a how nuts they went when President Trump started asking serious questions about Ukraine, they cobbled together Fauxpeachment I.

Oh....damn straight.....
Those Ukraine money bills are nearly pure boomerang bucks for Congress....

 

[justoffal]

Except that what Trump did wasn't working. They were still coming and we weren't dealing with the problem.

Does President Biden need Congress to shut down border?

A border security bill deal has led to a partisan fight.

spectrumlocalnews.com

When asked if Johnson’s interpretation of the Immigration and Nationality Act was correct, Kathleen Bush-Joseph, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, said courts allowed former President Donald Trump to temporarily restrict entry in the U.S. of citizens from mostly Muslim-majority countries. That was not the case when it came to unlawful border crossings.

“President Trump also tried to use that authority at the southwest border, but was blocked by the courts,” Bush-Joseph told Spectrum News. “Which is why President Biden has said that he needs this new authority to be able to prevent people from applying for asylum.”

In 2018, Trump tried to block people from seeking asylum if they crossed the southern border illegally, but the courts stopped him, citing a provision of the law that affords anyone on U.S. soil — no matter how they got there — the right to seek asylum.

“A president doesn't have the unilateral authority to shut down the border. If a president did, the prior president would have done it,” said Alberto Benitez, director of the Immigration Clinic at George Washington University Law School. “Even the prior president, who had a particular perspective on immigration, never shut down the border. There needs to be buy-in from Congress that a border shutdown is necessary, which there never has been.”

Republicans have said Biden could reinstate Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" policy, which required migrants to stay in Mexico as their applications for asylum played out. Trump’s policy was challenged in court and anything like it today would need Mexico’s cooperation. Trump was able to win that help by threatening tariffs on Mexican goods, but Mexico’s government has since vowed to reject any restart of the program.

Of course they vow to reject it. It's expensive to feed and house people who are just dropped in your country with no means of support or any intention of contributing.

Jo

 

[excalibur]

Oh....damn straight.....
Those Ukraine money bills are nearly pure boomerang bucks for Congress....

Mostly for Dems, but Repubs wanting and getting some crumbs and as usual happy

 

[justoffal]

Mostly for Dems, but Repubs wanting and getting some crumbs and as usual happy

Read an article a few years ago about Romney's kids being involved in Ukrainian businesses. What I don't understand is why the press has laid off of him.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course they vow to reject it. It's expensive to feed and house people who are just dropped in your country with no means of support or any intention of contributing.

Then we should let them in this country where they can support themselves and contribute.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Except that what Trump did wasn't working. They were still coming and we weren't dealing with the problem.

Does President Biden need Congress to shut down border?

A border security bill deal has led to a partisan fight.

spectrumlocalnews.com

When asked if Johnson’s interpretation of the Immigration and Nationality Act was correct, Kathleen Bush-Joseph, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, said courts allowed former President Donald Trump to temporarily restrict entry in the U.S. of citizens from mostly Muslim-majority countries. That was not the case when it came to unlawful border crossings.

“President Trump also tried to use that authority at the southwest border, but was blocked by the courts,” Bush-Joseph told Spectrum News. “Which is why President Biden has said that he needs this new authority to be able to prevent people from applying for asylum.”

In 2018, Trump tried to block people from seeking asylum if they crossed the southern border illegally, but the courts stopped him, citing a provision of the law that affords anyone on U.S. soil — no matter how they got there — the right to seek asylum.

“A president doesn't have the unilateral authority to shut down the border. If a president did, the prior president would have done it,” said Alberto Benitez, director of the Immigration Clinic at George Washington University Law School. “Even the prior president, who had a particular perspective on immigration, never shut down the border. There needs to be buy-in from Congress that a border shutdown is necessary, which there never has been.”

Republicans have said Biden could reinstate Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" policy, which required migrants to stay in Mexico as their applications for asylum played out. Trump’s policy was challenged in court and anything like it today would need Mexico’s cooperation. Trump was able to win that help by threatening tariffs on Mexican goods, but Mexico’s government has since vowed to reject any restart of the program.

That is a lie

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Except that what Trump did wasn't working. They were still coming and we weren't dealing with the problem.

Does President Biden need Congress to shut down border?

A border security bill deal has led to a partisan fight.

spectrumlocalnews.com

When asked if Johnson’s interpretation of the Immigration and Nationality Act was correct, Kathleen Bush-Joseph, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, said courts allowed former President Donald Trump to temporarily restrict entry in the U.S. of citizens from mostly Muslim-majority countries. That was not the case when it came to unlawful border crossings.

“President Trump also tried to use that authority at the southwest border, but was blocked by the courts,” Bush-Joseph told Spectrum News. “Which is why President Biden has said that he needs this new authority to be able to prevent people from applying for asylum.”

In 2018, Trump tried to block people from seeking asylum if they crossed the southern border illegally, but the courts stopped him, citing a provision of the law that affords anyone on U.S. soil — no matter how they got there — the right to seek asylum.

“A president doesn't have the unilateral authority to shut down the border. If a president did, the prior president would have done it,” said Alberto Benitez, director of the Immigration Clinic at George Washington University Law School. “Even the prior president, who had a particular perspective on immigration, never shut down the border. There needs to be buy-in from Congress that a border shutdown is necessary, which there never has been.”

Republicans have said Biden could reinstate Trump’s "Remain in Mexico" policy, which required migrants to stay in Mexico as their applications for asylum played out. Trump’s policy was challenged in court and anything like it today would need Mexico’s cooperation. Trump was able to win that help by threatening tariffs on Mexican goods, but Mexico’s government has since vowed to reject any restart of the program.

Except that what Trump did wasn't working. They were still coming and we weren't dealing with the problem.

Trump's "not working" worked much, much better than Biden's "not working".

 

[justoffal]

Then we should let them in this country where they can support themselves and contribute.

Best accomplished with the elimination of payroll taxes and the implementation of full consumption taxation.

 

[JoeB131]

Trump's "not working" worked much, much better than Biden's "not working".

And no one died of Covid, and no one lost their jobs, and all the demonstrations after George Floyd were peaceful.

 

[JoeB131]

Best accomplished with the elimination of payroll taxes and the implementation of full consumption taxation.

Best accomplished by going back to pre-Reagan tax rates on the rich.

 

[justoffal]

Best accomplished by going back to pre-Reagan tax rates on the rich.

That will always be a loser..... though a consumption tax could be graduated for luxuries. If you think about it it's probably the fastest way to get money out of the wealthy.

 

[Mac-7]

Awesome. Hope you enjoy your new Hispanic neighbors.

Biden has brought in as many illegals as possible while he’s been in power

So to answer your question some hispanics are ok but most the illegals are a blight on society

And I dont enjoy them