The American People Need Lebanon To Be Part Of The Cease Fire Deal!

[Hafar1014]

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government are trying to sabotage the two-week cease fire deal they know if this cease fire deal fails there is a real possibility the Strait of Hormuz won't reopen to free ship traffic and the price of oil will steadily rise and eventually the U.S. government will have to send ground forces in to re-open it up to stop the world from falling into a deep recession caused by oil prices and it will take at least approximately one-hundred thousand troops deployed across the coast of Iran along the strait to secure it and the only way America will be able to leave is if there is a non-militant regime governing Iran which means America has to bring regime change in Iran which means double to triple the number of American combat soldiers deployed in Iran; which means from this large scale war in Iran thousands of American soldiers will be killed and thousands more seriously wounded and America spends hundreds of billions of dollars it doesn't have to pay for the war! The Israeli government and President Trump are distorting the facts here on this critical issue of whether Lebanon was part of the cease fire deal; the New York Times reported that the Pakistani government who negotiated the cease fire deal has acknowledged that Lebanon was part of the deal. Further, it defies reasonableness that the Iranian regime which is a militant Islamic regime would abandon their militant Islamic ally, Hezbollah in Lebanon; the Iranian Islamic regime and its allies have a long history of being very loyal to one another, one example of this is the only reason that Hezbollah started firing missiles and rockets into Israel on this round of the Israel/Hezbollah conflict is because of the Israel/U.S bombing of Iran in the current war.

Prime Minister Netanyahu is being very foolish here his lifelong philosophy of killing every Muslim group that will take up arms against Israel is a losing philosophy because it is impossible to kill that many Muslims at any one point in history and especially to kill that many Muslims over time! These values of Netanyahu which will lead America into a major ground war in Iran will long-term hurt the Israeli government's relationship with the American people this will be the second time the Israeli government manipulated America into a major war in the Middle East where America was really harmed, the first being the Iraq war where the Israeli government advocated aggressively to the U.S. government that Saddam Husseins Iraqi government was building weapons-of-maas destruction namely chemical and biological weapons and time was of the essence to stop Saddam Hussein! A more short term repercussion is that the Israeli government has probably spent ten billion dollars in the Iran war, considering the five thousand sorties IDF pilots conducted and all the SAM missiles they expended, etc.. The Israeli government is putting at risk here a ten billion dollar financial aid package for Israel because the American people can look at this Iran war as one where President Trump was looking for another big win and he selected the Iran issue and so Israel was pulled into this war because any U.S. war against Iran would bring retaliatory strikes against Israel so they need to be brought in to defend themselves; the other view the American people could take is yes President Trump was indulging his dangerous make-up to look for a big win and Trump talked to Netanyahu about it and Netanyahu saw this as an opportunity to further his values against militant Muslims and says yes Mr. President if the U.S. and Israeli defense forces degrade the IRGC military capacity and kill a lot of the regime's leaders the Iranian people will rise up and topple this hard line regime and replace it with a peaceful regime and President Trump will look great with this outcome!


President Trump needs to ask Prime Minister Netanyahu to stop the war in Lebanon and consider it part of the cease fire deal because America and the World need to have this two week cease fire succeed and transition into a permanent cease fire because otherwise the price of oil is going to slowly rise to $175.00 a barrel and if that occurs the world is going to fall into a recession anyone that is really prudent can see this. Many media commentators have said that the government of China lobbied Iran to sign on to the two week cease fire deal and said it was because China gets an enormous amount of oil from the Persian Gulf countries especially Iran, I bet if one knew the Chinese government's thinking they are also worried about their big export economy if the world falls into a major recession countries throughout the world will cut down their imports thereby hurting China's economy! President Trump should also worry about the affordability issue and its impact on this year's mid-term election if the price of oil stays high much longer it will drive inflation throughout the economy, this is economics 101, and this factor could cause the Republicans to lose the Senate this year and that would be dire for President Trump!


If Prime Minister Netanyahu doesn't cooperate here the Trump Administration should go to the Iranian government and say we don't have any control over the Lebanon issue so how about we modify the two week cease fire deal as such we America will cease fire on Iran and in return the Iran government will cease fire and half way open the Strait of Hormuz, this international waterway. By this is meant prior to the war 140 ships transited the Strait of Hormuz per day, change the terms of the cease fire deal to allow seventy ships to freely transit the strait per day. Conditions will change to facilitate the complete opening of the Strait; the Israeli people will eventually pick-up that this bombing of Lebanon is extremely counter productive the Israeli government is just insuring that Hezbollah has plenty of recruits for the next thirty years. What the IDF planes are doing with the bombing in Lebanon is they are killing Muslim families whole scale these high rise buildings in Beirut that people throughout the world see in news clips that are blown apart by IDF planes and missiles Muslim families lived in these buildings and the women and children death figures are significant, what the IDF is doing here is just proving to the world that the Israeli government is not a good government!

Hezbollah needs to be removed form Lebanon

 

[Robert W]

These guys believe they are pleasing God by protecting the government of Israel. But if they actually read the bible, they would understand that the antichrist comes from Israel, sets up a government in Israel, an then proceeds to kill 3/4ths of the people on earth.

Is that what Hitler believed? Are you explaining Islam's belief?

 

[Robert W]

Hezbollah needs to be removed form Lebanon

Doesn't Lebanon want them out?

 

[Hafar1014]

Doesn't Lebanon want them out?

So far they havent done anything to remove them so they need to feel the pain

 

[Darkwind]

Hezbollah needs to be removed form Lebanon

In fact, it needs to be dismantled and destroyed.

 

[Darkwind]

Doesn't Lebanon want them out?

They lack the firepower. Isreal does not.

A good reason for them to talk to the Jews. The possibility of Lebennon returning to what it was before should wildly motivate them.

 

[Robert W]

They lack the firepower. Isreal does not.

A good reason for them to talk to the Jews. The possibility of Lebennon returning to what it was before should wildly motivate them.

I recall when Lebanon was not being harmed and was a very safe country to live in or visit. Now Hezbollah got their claws in it.

 

[Darkwind]

I recall when Lebanon was not being harmed and was a very safe country to live in or visit. Now Hezbollah got their claws in it.

Lebennon was pretty much a paradise, with rough edges. It was a beautiful place and people. Much like what Gaza could have become if they were not ****-ups who follow Islam.

 

[Churchill]

I've stated My reasons for support of Isreal hundreds if not thousands of times.

Israel is NONE of what the left complains about them. NONE.

When you are forced to lie about a State like Isreal, then you, not I, need to evaluate your belief system.

There is no apartheid in Israel.

People who have lived under apartheid disagree as do countless studie by charities and human rights organizations as well as the United Nations. Now you can claim that every one of these is a lie and part of a vast antisemitic conspiracy but that's a pretty extreme way to justify a belief.

There is no genocide in Israel.

Again, there are many respectable sources who disagree with that claim, I've read many of them and that has led to me forming the position I now have.

The Israeli's are NOT controlling the world's wealth < -- a statement of greed by those making it.

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There is NOTHING compatible with Islam and the arab countries that promote it, and the free people of the world, notably, the United States and Europe.

Well Islam and Judaism and Christianity are different, doesn't take much to understand that though.

The Israeli's stand between the disaster of Islam taking over the Levant and a free and prosperous world.

What "disaster" are you referring to? Palestine was majority Arab for thousands of years and most Arabs embrace Islam just as most Caucasians embrace Christianity. What's wrong with a majority having self determination? Surerly you don't think Christians can have that but Muslims cannot?

If you hate freedom, then you side with Iran, HAMAS, Hezbollah, and the Palestinians.

Exaplain that remark, it makes no sense whatsoever. The US and EU have sided with Saudi Arabia, people have less freedom there than Iran, why do you exclude these Gulf dictatorships from your list?

Why do you hate Isreal?

I oppose the Zionist ideology, not bacause of what it origianlly aspired to, but because of what it has become today, the effect it has on non-Jews and the insidious influence it wields over the United States governemnt.

 

[Churchill]

Lebennon was pretty much a paradise, with rough edges. It was a beautiful place and people.

The whole of Pelstine was beautiful in the early 20th century and it had been ruled by Muslim Turks for 400 years and many Jews and Christians also lived there mostly peacefully.

So isn't it a bit odd how that beautiful place could exist after hundreds of years of "evil" Islam? Its not as if Muslims suddenly arrived in 1948 and started spreading evil and hatred, they were already there, living there, raising families there, they made it beautiful.

See, the facts undermine and contradict your beliefs.

Much like what Gaza could have become if they were not ****-ups who follow Islam.

You need to unravel the strands that decades of propaganda have woven, that is if the truth matters to you.

Islam is incidental here, the only reason it comes up is because the majority who were living there when the invading Turks left after WW1 were Muslims, they, might have been Christians but they weren't.

Now when Arabs oppose foreign occupation, oppose ethnic cleansing, oppose Jew supremacy, the Israelis characterize that as "Islam hates Jews" that's the lie the Zionists started telling decades ago, it fooled a lot of people, but fewer and fewer now beleive that lie, its ridiculous and easily refuted.

 

[Darkwind]

People who have lived under apartheid disagree as do countless studie by charities and human rights organizations as well as the United Nations. Now you can claim that every one of these is a lie and part of a vast antisemitic conspiracy but that's a pretty extreme way to justify a belief.

Again, there are many respectable sources who disagree with that claim, I've read many of them and that has led to me forming the position I now have.

?

Well Islam and Judaism and Christianity are different, doesn't take much to understand that though.

What "disaster" are you referring to? Palestine was majority Arab for thousands of years and most Arabs embrace Islam just as most Caucasians embrace Christianity. What's wrong with a majority having self determination? Surerly you don't think Christians can have that but Muslims cannot?

Exaplain that remark, it makes no sense whatsoever. The US and EU have sided with Saudi Arabia, people have less freedom there than Iran, why do you exclude these Gulf dictatorships from your list?

I oppose the Zionist ideology, not bacause of what it origianlly aspired to, but because of what it has become today, the effect it has on non-Jews and the insidious influence it wields over the United States governemnt.

Let's just cut to the chase before I eliminate the clutter that is your lies.


You are a liar.

 

[berg80]

U.S. crude oil surged above $100 per barrel earlier in the session, as the market realized that Iran is limiting traffic through the Strait of Hormuz despite the ceasefire agreement with U.S.

The strait has not opened to ships, said the CEO of Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC) on Thursday. Iran has made clear that vessels must obtain its permission to pass, Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber said in a social media post.

“That is not freedom of navigation. That is coercion,” the ADNOC chief said.

The oil rally subsequently eased after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would negotiate with Lebanon “as soon as possible.” Israel’s military campaign in Lebanon against Iran’s ally Hezbollah threatens to unravel the ceasefire between Washington and Tehran.

Oil rally loses steam after Israel agrees to negotiate with Lebanon

Oil prices were volatile Thursday as the U.S.-Iran ceasefire agreement remained fragile.

www.cnbc.com

Perhaps someone from the US metaphorically tapped Bibi on the shoulder and told him to get with the program.

 

[berg80]

Lebennon was pretty much a paradise, with rough edges. It was a beautiful place and people. Much like what Gaza could have become if they were not ****-ups who follow Islam.

It's Lebanon, nitwit.

 

[toobfreak]

What Lebanon actually needs is to be the country it was before Islamists took over.

If Lebanon doesn't want bombed then they need to kick Hezbollah out of their country and fly right. The problem isn't Israel, nor is it America, it is Iran.

 

[Churchill]

Let's just cut to the chase before I eliminate the clutter that is your lies.


You are a liar.

That's one way of avoding the pain of admitting your mistakes I guess.

 

[Care4all]

OK after you look at the map, let us know.

Looks like Oman and UAE, both friendlies....but there seems to be mountains on the right side of the countries, which seem huge on the map I saw.....

 

[Robert W]

Looks like Oman and UAE, both friendlies....but there seems to be mountains on the right side of the countries, which seem huge on the MP I saw.....

What is your judgement as to the countries allowing a canal to be constructed on them?

Also, would a canal be free of Iran missiles?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government...

When you copy/paste an article you need to cite it -- even if you had to translate it to English.

 

[Care4all]

Oman. And there is a big ass mountain range going down the middle of the peninsula

Yeah, I just looked it up and even in UAE that mountain range looks ominous!

 

[Blaster]

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government are trying to sabotage the two-week cease fire deal they know if this cease fire deal fails there is a real possibility the Strait of Hormuz won't reopen to free ship traffic and the price of oil will steadily rise and eventually the U.S. government will have to send ground forces in to re-open it up to stop the world from falling into a deep recession caused by oil prices and it will take at least approximately one-hundred thousand troops deployed across the coast of Iran along the strait to secure it and the only way America will be able to leave is if there is a non-militant regime governing Iran which means America has to bring regime change in Iran which means double to triple the number of American combat soldiers deployed in Iran; which means from this large scale war in Iran thousands of American soldiers will be killed and thousands more seriously wounded and America spends hundreds of billions of dollars it doesn't have to pay for the war! The Israeli government and President Trump are distorting the facts here on this critical issue of whether Lebanon was part of the cease fire deal; the New York Times reported that the Pakistani government who negotiated the cease fire deal has acknowledged that Lebanon was part of the deal. Further, it defies reasonableness that the Iranian regime which is a militant Islamic regime would abandon their militant Islamic ally, Hezbollah in Lebanon; the Iranian Islamic regime and its allies have a long history of being very loyal to one another, one example of this is the only reason that Hezbollah started firing missiles and rockets into Israel on this round of the Israel/Hezbollah conflict is because of the Israel/U.S bombing of Iran in the current war.

Prime Minister Netanyahu is being very foolish here his lifelong philosophy of killing every Muslim group that will take up arms against Israel is a losing philosophy because it is impossible to kill that many Muslims at any one point in history and especially to kill that many Muslims over time! These values of Netanyahu which will lead America into a major ground war in Iran will long-term hurt the Israeli government's relationship with the American people this will be the second time the Israeli government manipulated America into a major war in the Middle East where America was really harmed, the first being the Iraq war where the Israeli government advocated aggressively to the U.S. government that Saddam Husseins Iraqi government was building weapons-of-maas destruction namely chemical and biological weapons and time was of the essence to stop Saddam Hussein! A more short term repercussion is that the Israeli government has probably spent ten billion dollars in the Iran war, considering the five thousand sorties IDF pilots conducted and all the SAM missiles they expended, etc.. The Israeli government is putting at risk here a ten billion dollar financial aid package for Israel because the American people can look at this Iran war as one where President Trump was looking for another big win and he selected the Iran issue and so Israel was pulled into this war because any U.S. war against Iran would bring retaliatory strikes against Israel so they need to be brought in to defend themselves; the other view the American people could take is yes President Trump was indulging his dangerous make-up to look for a big win and Trump talked to Netanyahu about it and Netanyahu saw this as an opportunity to further his values against militant Muslims and says yes Mr. President if the U.S. and Israeli defense forces degrade the IRGC military capacity and kill a lot of the regime's leaders the Iranian people will rise up and topple this hard line regime and replace it with a peaceful regime and President Trump will look great with this outcome!


President Trump needs to ask Prime Minister Netanyahu to stop the war in Lebanon and consider it part of the cease fire deal because America and the World need to have this two week cease fire succeed and transition into a permanent cease fire because otherwise the price of oil is going to slowly rise to $175.00 a barrel and if that occurs the world is going to fall into a recession anyone that is really prudent can see this. Many media commentators have said that the government of China lobbied Iran to sign on to the two week cease fire deal and said it was because China gets an enormous amount of oil from the Persian Gulf countries especially Iran, I bet if one knew the Chinese government's thinking they are also worried about their big export economy if the world falls into a major recession countries throughout the world will cut down their imports thereby hurting China's economy! President Trump should also worry about the affordability issue and its impact on this year's mid-term election if the price of oil stays high much longer it will drive inflation throughout the economy, this is economics 101, and this factor could cause the Republicans to lose the Senate this year and that would be dire for President Trump!


If Prime Minister Netanyahu doesn't cooperate here the Trump Administration should go to the Iranian government and say we don't have any control over the Lebanon issue so how about we modify the two week cease fire deal as such we America will cease fire on Iran and in return the Iran government will cease fire and half way open the Strait of Hormuz, this international waterway. By this is meant prior to the war 140 ships transited the Strait of Hormuz per day, change the terms of the cease fire deal to allow seventy ships to freely transit the strait per day. Conditions will change to facilitate the complete opening of the Strait; the Israeli people will eventually pick-up that this bombing of Lebanon is extremely counter productive the Israeli government is just insuring that Hezbollah has plenty of recruits for the next thirty years. What the IDF planes are doing with the bombing in Lebanon is they are killing Muslim families whole scale these high rise buildings in Beirut that people throughout the world see in news clips that are blown apart by IDF planes and missiles Muslim families lived in these buildings and the women and children death figures are significant, what the IDF is doing here is just proving to the world that the Israeli government is not a good government!

Lebanon is fair game.