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You can control where income goes and you can control how wealth is distributed with tax rate and tax law , What the hell did anyone think was going to happen with Reagan's trickle down lie , changing the top rate from 70 to 28%. That is why since Reagan implemented the trickle down lie in 1981 all the new wealth of the richest country in the world and at profit levels that were through the roof. All went to the golden few at the top as shown in the two charts on post 50.Love it ,You have no response , because your response admits that you are full of shit. You have no options here, I told you to respond to the charts , I don't have to prove anything. You can say the chart is wrong , then show me one that shows your reality. Or you can look at my proof , and tell us that it is just a coincident that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981 that its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove. Or you can just go someplace else to blow smoke.You don't have to respond to a dam thingYou don't have to respond to a dam thing . Why would I care. Your offering nothing anyway.It is simpler then that I gave ayou a chart to respond to and that really the subject ,all your questions are crap until you respond to the all telling chart.I made this as simple as possible for your type, I told you to respond to the chart, so even you had the substance needed to talk about this issue ,now if there is something misleading about the chart find one that differs.first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows. So that is your job. In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics (trickle down economics) His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down. but it didn't , which then makes it a lie. If anyone has a argument with this ,address this .Bullshit , You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie ,second you have tax law and tax rates that will even allow anyone to get a piece of the new wealth of this country. Your comment says it all , in your mind the only people who deserve a piece of the American dream are business owners and the workers are just there to fuck over.you accomplish the american dream by destroying that of your rival, my friends!
you have to outwit your business opponent who have not as thoroughly mastered the art of the game as you have...in this battle, the extremity of one is the opportunity of the other. it is the rule of competitive life that the time when the rival is on the downward road, the is the opportunity to strike the finishing blow and make merchandise out of the misery of your opponent.
The American Beauty Rose can be produced in the splendor and fragrance which bring cheer to its beholder only by sacrificing the early buds which grow up around it. this is not an evil tendency in business, but the working out of the laws of nature and the laws of God!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie
What is the "trickle down lie" and how do you get rid of all aspects?
View attachment 326459GEE I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN 1981.
first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows.
Sounds like something you made up. So why don't you explain it?
In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics
Supply side? Why don't you just say that?
His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down.
That's not what supply side is.....you should do more research, you'll sound less ignorant.
I made this as simple as possible for your type
I'm just glad you realize that supply-side was the policy.
That old trickle-down tripe was funny, but played out.
So feel free to explain what supply-side means and why you feel it stops people from achieving the American Dream.
Or run away......
Yup, you gave me a chart.
If you have any proof that it happened because Reagan cut the top rate from 70% to 28%, post it.
Otherwise, why do you feel the cuts were a bad thing or that I have anything to respond to...….
You're right, for once.
Your garage assumptions don't deserve a response.
that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981
What is a trickle down lie?
its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove
The "data" in the chart is "average income growth during expansions", not new wealth.Clown car passing through the center ring, income distributed is wealth. The charts beat you I see, they always do, you can't build any fact around them that will suit the hate partys goofy thinking. In 1981 there was a income break away from historic trends , income break was the distrobution of all the wealth to the top. Tell me what do you think would happen when Reagan dropped the top income tax from 70 to 28%. You clowns think that it didn't cause any effect. What it did was ran all the money through the top with the idea that it would trickle down(The trickle down lie) But it didn't as every chart in the world will show you,.You have no response , because your response admits that you are full of shit. You have no options here, I told you to respond to the charts , I don't have to prove anything. You can say the chart is wrong , then show me one that shows your reality. Or you can look at my proof , and tell us that it is just a coincident that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981 that its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove. Or you can just go someplace else to blow smoke.You don't have to respond to a dam thingYou don't have to respond to a dam thing . Why would I care. Your offering nothing anyway.It is simpler then that I gave ayou a chart to respond to and that really the subject ,all your questions are crap until you respond to the all telling chart.I made this as simple as possible for your type, I told you to respond to the chart, so even you had the substance needed to talk about this issue ,now if there is something misleading about the chart find one that differs.first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows. So that is your job. In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics (trickle down economics) His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down. but it didn't , which then makes it a lie. If anyone has a argument with this ,address this .Bullshit , You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie ,second you have tax law and tax rates that will even allow anyone to get a piece of the new wealth of this country. Your comment says it all , in your mind the only people who deserve a piece of the American dream are business owners and the workers are just there to fuck over.you accomplish the american dream by destroying that of your rival, my friends!
you have to outwit your business opponent who have not as thoroughly mastered the art of the game as you have...in this battle, the extremity of one is the opportunity of the other. it is the rule of competitive life that the time when the rival is on the downward road, the is the opportunity to strike the finishing blow and make merchandise out of the misery of your opponent.
The American Beauty Rose can be produced in the splendor and fragrance which bring cheer to its beholder only by sacrificing the early buds which grow up around it. this is not an evil tendency in business, but the working out of the laws of nature and the laws of God!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie
What is the "trickle down lie" and how do you get rid of all aspects?
View attachment 326459GEE I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN 1981.
first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows.
Sounds like something you made up. So why don't you explain it?
In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics
Supply side? Why don't you just say that?
His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down.
That's not what supply side is.....you should do more research, you'll sound less ignorant.
I made this as simple as possible for your type
I'm just glad you realize that supply-side was the policy.
That old trickle-down tripe was funny, but played out.
So feel free to explain what supply-side means and why you feel it stops people from achieving the American Dream.
Or run away......
Yup, you gave me a chart.
If you have any proof that it happened because Reagan cut the top rate from 70% to 28%, post it.
Otherwise, why do you feel the cuts were a bad thing or that I have anything to respond to...….
You're right, for once.
Your garage assumptions don't deserve a response.
that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981
What is a trickle down lie?
its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove
The "data" in the chart is "average income growth during expansions", not new wealth.
income distributed is wealth.
Income isn't distributed, it's earned.
What it did was ran all the money through the top with the idea that it would trickle down(The trickle down lie)
That isn't supply side economic theory.
Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory arguing that economic growth can be most effectively created by lowering taxes and decreasing regulation, by which it is directly opposed to demand-side economics.
Bush and Clinton both raised taxes and still the top 10%, from 1991-2000 received over 70% of the "distribution of average income growth during expansions". Did I mention what a useless "stat" that even is? I wonder why it isn't used more often? LOL! DURR
Hey, it was even worse under Obama! So must for Dem presidents doing anything useful.
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This is a great thread because it shows what these supposed right wing experts know about the subject that they attack . This is not complicated , The two charts tells a story, either you come here and say its just a coincident that it happened at the exact same time, Which is comedy or show us a chart that shows these two are wrong.
You have no options here, I told you to respond to the charts , I don't have to prove anything. You can say the chart is wrong , then show me one that shows your reality. Or you can look at my proof , and tell us that it is just a coincident that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981 that its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove. Or you can just go someplace else to blow smoke.
You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
600 million Chinese, good grief , This is the thread respond to it or find someplace else to be stupid.Please don't tell obvious lies.Since 1981 business profits has soared ,there has been no time in history that these numbers even came close to the last 40 years. And every dime of new profit has gone to a small micro group at the top,
In the last 40 years 600 million Chinese have gone from starvation level poverty to the middle class thanks to the switch to Republican capitalism away from libsocialism. It has not happened here because Democrats shipped all the jobs to China and then invited in 30 million illegals to take the remaining jobs and bid down wages still further. You've never heard of China have you??
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The question is simple I say that you can distribute the wealth anyway you want with tax law. The trickle down lie was created to give it all to the rich and it was suppose to trickle down. It didn't as the charts show. all the new wealth of this country has gone to the top exactly as I said as the charts show , if you deny the charts , show us one that says something different. Otherwise go someplace else. That is the thread .
You have no options here, I told you to respond to the charts , I don't have to prove anything. You can say the chart is wrong , then show me one that shows your reality. Or you can look at my proof , and tell us that it is just a coincident that when the trickle down lie was implemented in 1981 that its just a coincedent with the fact that all the new wealth of the country went to the top, as the charts prove. Or you can just go someplace else to blow smoke.Ya it's just a coincident that exactly what Reagan said would happened, happened exactly when he implemented the trickle down lie. Get a life. Your like talking to a a third grader.It is simpler then that I gave ayou a chart to respond to and that really the subject ,all your questions are crap until you respond to the all telling chart.I made this as simple as possible for your type, I told you to respond to the chart, so even you had the substance needed to talk about this issue ,now if there is something misleading about the chart find one that differs.first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows. So that is your job. In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics (trickle down economics) His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down. but it didn't , which then makes it a lie. If anyone has a argument with this ,address this .Bullshit , You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie ,second you have tax law and tax rates that will even allow anyone to get a piece of the new wealth of this country. Your comment says it all , in your mind the only people who deserve a piece of the American dream are business owners and the workers are just there to fuck over.you accomplish the american dream by destroying that of your rival, my friends!
you have to outwit your business opponent who have not as thoroughly mastered the art of the game as you have...in this battle, the extremity of one is the opportunity of the other. it is the rule of competitive life that the time when the rival is on the downward road, the is the opportunity to strike the finishing blow and make merchandise out of the misery of your opponent.
The American Beauty Rose can be produced in the splendor and fragrance which bring cheer to its beholder only by sacrificing the early buds which grow up around it. this is not an evil tendency in business, but the working out of the laws of nature and the laws of God!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie
What is the "trickle down lie" and how do you get rid of all aspects?
View attachment 326459GEE I WONDER WHAT HAPPENED IN 1981.
first look up trickle down economics. This is something I assumed everyone knows.
Sounds like something you made up. So why don't you explain it?
In 1981 Reagan took the advice of his economic cabinet head and decided to Go with supply side economics
Supply side? Why don't you just say that?
His premise was to run the tax cuts and money through the wealthy and it would trickle down.
That's not what supply side is.....you should do more research, you'll sound less ignorant.
I made this as simple as possible for your type
I'm just glad you realize that supply-side was the policy.
That old trickle-down tripe was funny, but played out.
So feel free to explain what supply-side means and why you feel it stops people from achieving the American Dream.
Or run away......
Yup, you gave me a chart.
If you have any proof that it happened because Reagan cut the top rate from 70% to 28%, post it.
Otherwise, why do you feel the cuts were a bad thing or that I have anything to respond to...….
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Gee Golly Gee how did this get turned around so quickly.
Ya it's just a coincident that exactly what Reagan said would happened, happened
What did Reagan say, exactly?
exactly when he implemented the trickle down lie.
When he implemented what trickle down lie?
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Wow! That's like 3 levels of BS stats in one sentence. Impressive!
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Piketty, well, that explains it. GIGO
all the new wealth of the country went to the top,
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
This country capitalistic economy is driven by the promise of the potential to get a head . This has been taken away totally in the 1981's trickle down lie. Since then no sector has gained one dime of the massive increase of wealth, other then the golden few that were designed to get it all in the 81 tax law. Capitalism dies when that incentive is lost and it has been lost and taken away by a group of people who think they deserve it all. That's not enough for these people, who will take the chance of destroying our economic system so that they can have it all . They continue with tax law to move it all to the top/
Bullshit , You only can accomplish the American dream, If first you get rid of all aspects of the trickle down lie ,second you have tax law and tax rates that will even allow anyone to get a piece of the new wealth of this country. Your comment says it all , in your mind the only people who deserve a piece of the American dream are business owners and the workers are just there to fuck over.you accomplish the american dream by destroying that of your rival, my friends!
you have to outwit your business opponent who have not as thoroughly mastered the art of the game as you have...in this battle, the extremity of one is the opportunity of the other. it is the rule of competitive life that the time when the rival is on the downward road, the is the opportunity to strike the finishing blow and make merchandise out of the misery of your opponent.
The American Beauty Rose can be produced in the splendor and fragrance which bring cheer to its beholder only by sacrificing the early buds which grow up around it. this is not an evil tendency in business, but the working out of the laws of nature and the laws of God!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income . made 100% clear with the chart I'll post again , the truth something you seem to think you can lie about with the evidence right in front of everyone. Those are the facts , your opinion is buried with the facts proving you wrong. but I am having a hell of a good time showing this to everyone.Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other
I took the info from your source. Are you a moron, or only pretending to be one?
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income . made 100% clear with the chart I'll post again , the truth something you seem to think you can lie about with the evidence right in front of everyone. Those are the facts , your opinion is buried with the facts proving you wrong. but I am having a hell of a good time showing this to everyone. View attachment 327798You are being destroyed by the truth. Love it.Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other
I took the info from your source. Are you a moron, or only pretending to be one?
Not sure what the real issue here? American business, the most successful business in the world, has done well in a globalized world because they now have customers and workers all over the globe. Chinese workers have done amazingly well too, often at the expense of American workers, because liberal policies have encouraged the offshoring of jobs to China where wages are much lower.as the chart shows since the trickle down lie,
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income . made 100% clear with the chart I'll post again , the truth something you seem to think you can lie about with the evidence right in front of everyone. Those are the facts , your opinion is buried with the facts proving you wrong. but I am having a hell of a good time showing this to everyone. View attachment 327798You are being destroyed by the truth. Love it.Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other
I took the info from your source. Are you a moron, or only pretending to be one?
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income .
I know you're a moron, but it's right there, in post #65.
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The American dream has been destroyed by the rights thinking that they deserve it all.
This is a great thread because it shows what these supposed right wing experts know about the subject that they attack . This is not complicated , The two charts tells a story, either you come here and say its just a coincident that it happened at the exact same time, Which is comedy or show us...www.usmessageboard.com
Since the 1981 Reagan tax cuts, median real family income is up about 30%.
If that's not clear enough for you, talk to your 8th grade math teacher on Monday.
I'm sure they'll be happy to help you understand.
It's more difficult to see, because of the wide scale, but even your chart in this thread shows about a 30% increase for the middle quintile.
What are you putting that chart up for, this is the median income chart ace, . massively different storyYou said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income . made 100% clear with the chart I'll post again , the truth something you seem to think you can lie about with the evidence right in front of everyone. Those are the facts , your opinion is buried with the facts proving you wrong. but I am having a hell of a good time showing this to everyone. View attachment 327798You are being destroyed by the truth. Love it.Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other
I took the info from your source. Are you a moron, or only pretending to be one?
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income .
I know you're a moron, but it's right there, in post #65.
View attachment 327825
The American dream has been destroyed by the rights thinking that they deserve it all.
This is a great thread because it shows what these supposed right wing experts know about the subject that they attack . This is not complicated , The two charts tells a story, either you come here and say its just a coincident that it happened at the exact same time, Which is comedy or show us...www.usmessageboard.com
Since the 1981 Reagan tax cuts, median real family income is up about 30%.
If that's not clear enough for you, talk to your 8th grade math teacher on Monday.
I'm sure they'll be happy to help you understand.
It's more difficult to see, because of the wide scale, but even your chart in this thread shows about a 30% increase for the middle quintile.
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income . made 100% clear with the chart I'll post again , the truth something you seem to think you can lie about with the evidence right in front of everyone. Those are the facts , your opinion is buried with the facts proving you wrong. but I am having a hell of a good time showing this to everyone. View attachment 327798You are being destroyed by the truth. Love it.Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other, as the chart shows since the trickle down lie, income levels have stayed exactly the same except for the golden , This will prove it , from the 2018 census bureau This is a chart of median income.You want to see how stupid stupid can get, there's a argument here that says there is nothing in this chart that it meansanything and there is no cause for it , even though it started at the exact same time the trickle down lie was implemented. Anyone who would look at this chart would ask , what the hell happened in 1981?????????? What would anyone think would happen when the top tax went from 70 to 28% with Reagan's trickle down lie.View attachment 327417
The median real family income is up about 30% since the supply-side tax cuts.
Looks like a success.
Even people like you, at the 20th percentile, have seen a 10% increase.
View attachment 327627
Bring your bullshit someplace else
Your full of crap or you are lying . one of the other
I took the info from your source. Are you a moron, or only pretending to be one?
You said nothing at all that even tweaks my point in displaying the charts. and your numbers are a the lie here about median income .
I know you're a moron, but it's right there, in post #65.
View attachment 327825
The American dream has been destroyed by the rights thinking that they deserve it all.
This is a great thread because it shows what these supposed right wing experts know about the subject that they attack . This is not complicated , The two charts tells a story, either you come here and say its just a coincident that it happened at the exact same time, Which is comedy or show us...www.usmessageboard.com
Since the 1981 Reagan tax cuts, median real family income is up about 30%.
If that's not clear enough for you, talk to your 8th grade math teacher on Monday.
I'm sure they'll be happy to help you understand.
It's more difficult to see, because of the wide scale, but even your chart in this thread shows about a 30% increase for the middle quintile.
What the hell is this , you must be on the wrong thread.Not sure what the real issue here? American business, the most successful business in the world, has done well in a globalized world because they now have customers and workers all over the globe. Chinese workers have done amazingly well too, often at the expense of American workers, because liberal policies have encouraged the offshoring of jobs to China where wages are much lower.as the chart shows since the trickle down lie,
The idiotic libcommie idea that you would tax big business to supplement workers pay with a trickle down welfare check would demean them, further reduce the competitiveness of American business, and cause a new round of job offshoring.
Oh and let's never forget that the brilliant liberal idea to invite in 30 million illegals to take our jobs and bid down our wages is a primary cause of workers wage stagnation.
The liberals apparently cant decide whether to screw our workers with Chinese or Mexican workers! This is why we love Trump. He finally said enough of liberal idiocy!!
