The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse

[pknopp]

Right. You have no idea.

I don't. Care to explain?

 

[struth]

I have no idea who you are talking about.

that’s rather amazing…but unsurprising nonetheless

 

[evenflow1969]

The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse​

The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse | National Review

The more we learn about the administration’s withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.

www.nationalreview.com

8 Feb 2022 ~~ By David Harsanyi

The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.
As the Biden administration’s chaotic and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan was unfolding in August 2021, a suicide bomber murdered 13 American servicemembers, and at least 170 Afghans, at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport. It was one of the deadliest attacks on our troops in our 20 years in that nation.
~Snip~
The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic. Here, for example, is a snippet from ProPublica’s recent investigation into the Kabul suicide bombing:

Days before the final withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, thousands of desperate Americans and Afghan allies seeking to flee the country were using unguarded routes across open fields and through narrow alleys to reach one of the few gates providing access to the Kabul airfield.​

Despite intelligence warning of terrorist attacks, U.S. military commanders encouraged use of the routes. Some U.S. officials even provided maps to evacuees trying to bypass Taliban fighters stationed at a checkpoint outside the airport.​

The fact that the murderer of 13 Americans “likely” gained access to troops via a path that U.S. officials were encouraging people to use seems quite noteworthy. As does the fact that we were helping evacuees circumvent the Taliban even as the Biden administration was assuring the public that the Islamic militants were facilitating the extraction of Americans.
~Snip~
Biden was wedded to the Taliban’s timeline. Given that he’s shown reliably disastrous foreign-policy instincts over 50 years in public life, this isn’t exactly surprising. It’s also increasingly clear that the administration ignored warnings because it believed leaving Afghanistan, which was quite popular in polls, would be a political slam dunk early in his term.
That was Biden’s prerogative. The president has no obligation to follow the advice of his generals. Undoubtedly, many of them would have advocated a U.S. presence in Afghanistan in perpetuity. As a policy matter, Biden’s botching of the evacuation is a separate issue from whether the United States should have withdrawn. However, once Biden decided to embrace what the Trump administration had begun, the responsibility to protect American lives was his. There are numerous questions yet to be answered on why he failed to do so.

Commentary:
Unfortunately, this disgrace will go the same way as Benghazi debacle that killed four. The Quisling media does not want to investigate Democrats.
When asked in July 2021 if a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was inevitable, the president scoffed at the notion, arguing that “Afghan troops have 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban.”
Now with the U.S. military equipment now in the Taliban’s possession, I guess that makes the Taliban as well-equipped as any army in the world."
At least Benedict Arnold saved the Revolution twice: at the battle of Lake Champlain where he lost the battle but delayed the British Invasion for one season and at our victory at Sarasota. where Arnold was wounded in the leg deserves to be buried with full honors at Arlington whereas Biden deserves to be buried in some pit in Afghanistan
Compare the "tough" talk then with what Biden said yesterday and ask yourself if Putin may consider calling Biden's bluff:
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again, then there will be no longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it,” Biden said.
My bet is that Putin has been putting on a show on the Ukraine border to build up his stature in the eyes of the world (especially Russia), but he's not willing to actually go into Ukraine. The Biden administration figures this as well and only made that statement for political consumption so they can make the case they scared off Putin. Putin is well aware that Biden is full of it and so that announcement could backfire as Putin will have new incentive to save face.

Lol you mean the one created by Trump. When Joe Biden took office there were less than 3000 troops in country. To make things worse old Trumpy boy handed over no files to the transition team. So thank old Trumpy boy for that one.

 

[excalibur]

And the silence from the MSM is a disgrace, f'ing traitors to the First Amendment.

As the Biden administration’s chaotic and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan was unfolding in August 2021, a suicide bomber murdered 13 American servicemembers, and at least 170 Afghans, at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport. It was one of the deadliest attacks on our troops in our 20 years in that nation.

“Know this,” Biden said after the bombing. “We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay.” This turned out to be face-saving political theater. Three days later, an air strike killed ten Afghans, seven of them children. Not one of the dead, as far as we know, was an “ISIS facilitator,” as the administration had alleged.

In fact, the Pentagon now says that the bombing was the work of a lone terrorist rather than a “complex” network, as the Biden administration had initially maintained. At the time, General Mark Milley not only referred to the strike as “valid” and “righteous” — let’s concede for a moment that he was basing this on the best available information — but went further to describe a “secondary explosion” and a supposed plethora of evidence justifying the bombing. None of that, it seems, was true. It seems increasingly likely that Biden was going to blow someone up to project his toughness.

The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic. Here, for example, is a snippet from ProPublica’s recent investigation into the Kabul suicide bombing:

Days before the final withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, thousands of desperate Americans and Afghan allies seeking to flee the country were using unguarded routes across open fields and through narrow alleys to reach one of the few gates providing access to the Kabul airfield.
Despite intelligence warning of terrorist attacks, U.S. military commanders encouraged use of the routes. Some U.S. officials even provided maps to evacuees trying to bypass Taliban fighters stationed at a checkpoint outside the airport.

The fact that the murderer of 13 Americans “likely” gained access to troops via a path that U.S. officials were encouraging people to use seems quite noteworthy. As does the fact that we were helping evacuees circumvent the Taliban even as the Biden administration was assuring the public that the Islamic militants were facilitating the extraction of Americans.

These are the same Taliban with whom the Biden administration had reportedly shared a list of “American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies.” When defending his reliance on the militants, the president claimed that, “to the best of our knowledge, the Taliban checkpoints — they are letting through people showing American passports.” In September, the administration declared that the Taliban had “shown flexibility” and were comporting themselves in a “businesslike and professional” manner.

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The Pentagon investigation into the bombing — relying on hundreds of witness interviews, drone footage, and reports by medical examiners — also concluded that the suicide bombing at Abbey Gate was “not preventable,” words that recurred in headlines atop reports by the Associated Press and other outlets.


In truth, the attack became unpreventable only after the Biden administration evacuated secure positions without having extracted those who wanted to leave. When George Stephanopoulos asked Biden whether he was warned that adhering to the Taliban’s timeline would put lives in danger, Biden answered: “No. No one said that to me that I can recall.”

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The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse | National Review

The more we learn about the administration’s withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[MarathonMike]

Afghanistan was stable before Brandon took over. A year and half later and it's a full-blown humanitarian crisis. Millions of people starving, Taliban in charge with no clue. ISIS growing back stronger than ever. Good God.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

And the silence from the MSM is a disgrace, f'ing traitors to the First Amendment.

​

As the Biden administration’s chaotic and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan was unfolding in August 2021, a suicide bomber murdered 13 American servicemembers, and at least 170 Afghans, at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport. It was one of the deadliest attacks on our troops in our 20 years in that nation.​

​

“Know this,” Biden said after the bombing. “We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay.” This turned out to be face-saving political theater. Three days later, an air strike killed ten Afghans, seven of them children. Not one of the dead, as far as we know, was an “ISIS facilitator,” as the administration had alleged.​

​

In fact, the Pentagon now says that the bombing was the work of a lone terrorist rather than a “complex” network, as the Biden administration had initially maintained. At the time, General Mark Milley not only referred to the strike as “valid” and “righteous” — let’s concede for a moment that he was basing this on the best available information — but went further to describe a “secondary explosion” and a supposed plethora of evidence justifying the bombing. None of that, it seems, was true. It seems increasingly likely that Biden was going to blow someone up to project his toughness.​

​

The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic. Here, for example, is a snippet from ProPublica’s recent investigation into the Kabul suicide bombing:​

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The fact that the murderer of 13 Americans “likely” gained access to troops via a path that U.S. officials were encouraging people to use seems quite noteworthy. As does the fact that we were helping evacuees circumvent the Taliban even as the Biden administration was assuring the public that the Islamic militants were facilitating the extraction of Americans.​

​

These are the same Taliban with whom the Biden administration had reportedly shared a list of “American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies.” When defending his reliance on the militants, the president claimed that, “to the best of our knowledge, the Taliban checkpoints — they are letting through people showing American passports.” In September, the administration declared that the Taliban had “shown flexibility” and were comporting themselves in a “businesslike and professional” manner.​

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The Pentagon investigation into the bombing — relying on hundreds of witness interviews, drone footage, and reports by medical examiners — also concluded that the suicide bombing at Abbey Gate was “not preventable,” words that recurred in headlines atop reports by the Associated Press and other outlets.​

​

​

In truth, the attack became unpreventable only after the Biden administration evacuated secure positions without having extracted those who wanted to leave. When George Stephanopoulos asked Biden whether he was warned that adhering to the Taliban’s timeline would put lives in danger, Biden answered: “No. No one said that to me that I can recall.”​

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The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse | National Review

The more we learn about the administration’s withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.

www.nationalreview.com

Not to mention the humanatarian catastrophe of the Afghan people

 

[Sunni Man]

When the Soviets slowly withdrew from Afghanistan the mujahedeen freedom fighters kept attacking and killing the Russian soldiers every day until the last soldier crossed the bridge back into the USSR.
So maybe Biden's sneak away in the middle of the night strategy saved American soldiers lives? ...

 

[Dadoalex]

And the silence from the MSM is a disgrace, f'ing traitors to the First Amendment.

​

As the Biden administration’s chaotic and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan was unfolding in August 2021, a suicide bomber murdered 13 American servicemembers, and at least 170 Afghans, at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport. It was one of the deadliest attacks on our troops in our 20 years in that nation.​

​

“Know this,” Biden said after the bombing. “We will not forgive. We will not forget. We will hunt you down and make you pay.” This turned out to be face-saving political theater. Three days later, an air strike killed ten Afghans, seven of them children. Not one of the dead, as far as we know, was an “ISIS facilitator,” as the administration had alleged.​

​

In fact, the Pentagon now says that the bombing was the work of a lone terrorist rather than a “complex” network, as the Biden administration had initially maintained. At the time, General Mark Milley not only referred to the strike as “valid” and “righteous” — let’s concede for a moment that he was basing this on the best available information — but went further to describe a “secondary explosion” and a supposed plethora of evidence justifying the bombing. None of that, it seems, was true. It seems increasingly likely that Biden was going to blow someone up to project his toughness.​

​

The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic. Here, for example, is a snippet from ProPublica’s recent investigation into the Kabul suicide bombing:​

​

​

​

​

The fact that the murderer of 13 Americans “likely” gained access to troops via a path that U.S. officials were encouraging people to use seems quite noteworthy. As does the fact that we were helping evacuees circumvent the Taliban even as the Biden administration was assuring the public that the Islamic militants were facilitating the extraction of Americans.​

​

These are the same Taliban with whom the Biden administration had reportedly shared a list of “American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies.” When defending his reliance on the militants, the president claimed that, “to the best of our knowledge, the Taliban checkpoints — they are letting through people showing American passports.” In September, the administration declared that the Taliban had “shown flexibility” and were comporting themselves in a “businesslike and professional” manner.​

​

..​

​

The Pentagon investigation into the bombing — relying on hundreds of witness interviews, drone footage, and reports by medical examiners — also concluded that the suicide bombing at Abbey Gate was “not preventable,” words that recurred in headlines atop reports by the Associated Press and other outlets.​

​

​

In truth, the attack became unpreventable only after the Biden administration evacuated secure positions without having extracted those who wanted to leave. When George Stephanopoulos asked Biden whether he was warned that adhering to the Taliban’s timeline would put lives in danger, Biden answered: “No. No one said that to me that I can recall.”​

​

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The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse | National Review

The more we learn about the administration’s withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.

www.nationalreview.com

Who was it that signed the withdrawal agreement and put the plan in place?

It's right on the edge of my tongue...
No wait, that was a cheeto I was eating...now who was that????
You have any ideas?

 

[Dadoalex]

Afghanistan was stable before Brandon took over. A year and half later and it's a full-blown humanitarian crisis. Millions of people starving, Taliban in charge with no clue. ISIS growing back stronger than ever. Good God.

You do know that PRESIDENT BIDEN has only been in office a little over a year?

GOT MATH...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Afghanistan was stable before Brandon took over. A year and half later and it's a full-blown humanitarian crisis. Millions of people starving, Taliban in charge with no clue. ISIS growing back stronger than ever. Good God.

Yes, it IS all going according to plan.

 

[Moonglow]

Afghanistan was stable before Brandon took over. A year and half later and it's a full-blown humanitarian crisis. Millions of people starving, Taliban in charge with no clue. ISIS growing back stronger than ever. Good God.

Stable, you mean the US and Afghans were not at war with ISIS or Taliban fighters?

 

[Moonglow]

Not to mention the humanatarian catastrophe of the Afghan people

It's the Taliban's problem now.

 

[jknowgood]

Afghanistan was stable before Brandon took over. A year and half later and it's a full-blown humanitarian crisis. Millions of people starving, Taliban in charge with no clue. ISIS growing back stronger than ever. Good God.

Don't forget billions in our high tech weapons.

 

[jknowgood]

It's the Taliban's problem now.

It will ours in years to come, thanks Biden.

 

[Moonglow]

It will ours in years to come, thanks Biden.

Not unless they get recognized as a nation, you Christians can throw them a bone.

 

[jknowgood]

Not unless they get recognized as a nation, you Christians can throw them a bone.

Go ahead, you screwed it up.

 

[Moonglow]

Go ahead, you screwed it up.

I was never involved and would never be involved in George Bush's war(s).

 

[Calypso Jones]

Another big ole HONKIN' Lie out of the Biden Regime.

Military say 'Biden team was indecisive during the Afghanistan crisis'

Declassified reports from the U.S. military into Kabul withdrawal details frustration with White House and State Department throughout the process.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Turned the withdrawal from Afghanistan to pure shit. Yep...that's what the left does.

 

[surada]

The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse​

The Afghanistan Debacle Looks Worse and Worse | National Review

The more we learn about the administration’s withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.

www.nationalreview.com

8 Feb 2022 ~~ By David Harsanyi

The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic.
As the Biden administration’s chaotic and inept withdrawal from Afghanistan was unfolding in August 2021, a suicide bomber murdered 13 American servicemembers, and at least 170 Afghans, at the Abbey Gate outside Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport. It was one of the deadliest attacks on our troops in our 20 years in that nation.
~Snip~
The more we learn about the administration’s Afghanistan withdrawal, the more it becomes clear that its decisions were driven by political considerations and panic. Here, for example, is a snippet from ProPublica’s recent investigation into the Kabul suicide bombing:

Days before the final withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, thousands of desperate Americans and Afghan allies seeking to flee the country were using unguarded routes across open fields and through narrow alleys to reach one of the few gates providing access to the Kabul airfield.​

Despite intelligence warning of terrorist attacks, U.S. military commanders encouraged use of the routes. Some U.S. officials even provided maps to evacuees trying to bypass Taliban fighters stationed at a checkpoint outside the airport.​

The fact that the murderer of 13 Americans “likely” gained access to troops via a path that U.S. officials were encouraging people to use seems quite noteworthy. As does the fact that we were helping evacuees circumvent the Taliban even as the Biden administration was assuring the public that the Islamic militants were facilitating the extraction of Americans.
~Snip~
Biden was wedded to the Taliban’s timeline. Given that he’s shown reliably disastrous foreign-policy instincts over 50 years in public life, this isn’t exactly surprising. It’s also increasingly clear that the administration ignored warnings because it believed leaving Afghanistan, which was quite popular in polls, would be a political slam dunk early in his term.
That was Biden’s prerogative. The president has no obligation to follow the advice of his generals. Undoubtedly, many of them would have advocated a U.S. presence in Afghanistan in perpetuity. As a policy matter, Biden’s botching of the evacuation is a separate issue from whether the United States should have withdrawn. However, once Biden decided to embrace what the Trump administration had begun, the responsibility to protect American lives was his. There are numerous questions yet to be answered on why he failed to do so.

Commentary:
Unfortunately, this disgrace will go the same way as Benghazi debacle that killed four. The Quisling media does not want to investigate Democrats.
When asked in July 2021 if a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was inevitable, the president scoffed at the notion, arguing that “Afghan troops have 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban.”
Now with the U.S. military equipment now in the Taliban’s possession, I guess that makes the Taliban as well-equipped as any army in the world."
At least Benedict Arnold saved the Revolution twice: at the battle of Lake Champlain where he lost the battle but delayed the British Invasion for one season and at our victory at Sarasota. where Arnold was wounded in the leg deserves to be buried with full honors at Arlington whereas Biden deserves to be buried in some pit in Afghanistan
Compare the "tough" talk then with what Biden said yesterday and ask yourself if Putin may consider calling Biden's bluff:
"If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again, then there will be no longer Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it,” Biden said.
My bet is that Putin has been putting on a show on the Ukraine border to build up his stature in the eyes of the world (especially Russia), but he's not willing to actually go into Ukraine. The Biden administration figures this as well and only made that statement for political consumption so they can make the case they scared off Putin. Putin is well aware that Biden is full of it and so that announcement could backfire as Putin will have new incentive to save face.

Who is this stupid author? The US government doesn't evacuate civilians against their will. They are freeloaders and fools. The US state department has had travel warnings for Afghanistan for years.

 

[surada]

Have you ever w

Another big ole HONKIN' Lie out of the Biden Regime.

Military say 'Biden team was indecisive during the Afghanistan crisis'

Declassified reports from the U.S. military into Kabul withdrawal details frustration with White House and State Department throughout the process.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Turned the withdrawal from Afghanistan to pure shit. Yep...that's what the left does.

Idiot. Have you ever worked over seas? Are you aware of the US state department travel warnings?