The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".

It’s time we REVISED the 2nd Amendment to apply logically to MODERN times!

The concept of “militias” is valid, but what kind of weapons & who gets to buy/use them should be revised for overall public safety.
 
The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

A militia is an armed citizenry.

The states, namely

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added

who originally proposed the Second Amendment among other articles.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

Note, not a slave state.

the right of the people

This a a more or less standard phrase (in international or diplomatic discourse) for the declaration of a universal human right.

to keep and bear Arms,

To keep is to possess, to bear is to carry, and Arms definitely include firearms such as rifles, pistols and shotguns; especially weapons small and light enough to be reasonably be carried on one’s person.

shall not be infringed.

I’m sorry, but patting people down & searching them for weapons without a warrant is absolutely forbidden under the U.S. Constitution. 4th Amendment, anyone? The airlines & the TSA went overboard with that 9/11 little-girl-hiding-under-her-bed terrorism nonsense.

the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.

And what about the laws on the books that explicitly allow us to carry firearms?

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
Where those militias at Elmer?
Good point. Does that mean the 2nd amendment is not relevant?
 
No the states do not, the states have the NG which is under the government, and they will never fight the government nor will the right wing militias, as they will lose.

I would just ban assault weapons including the semi automatic pistols, that would settle it. I also would ban all magazines that hold more than 10 bullets, and no more than one on a person or in a vehicle.

There wasn't even a state when the 2nd Amendment was wrote.
Lol
The military is overwhelmingly pro second amendment they would never go against their own you stupid ass motherfucker....
My point is if you are fighting for the 2nd amendment why limit yourself to guns? Maybe larger more powerful arms scare you. You are just a bag of hot air.
 
The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
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That's a pretty diverse group of perps. So how come we don't get the 24/7/365 bombardment of "news" when someone other than a white guy shoots up a bunch of people?
 
This is the common law for the common defense:

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
 
The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
The KKK was for gun control long before anyone else. That was when they were good solid Democrats.
 
The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
67893608_3090728487635565_6420598103153311744_o.jpg
That's a pretty diverse group of perps. So how come we don't get the 24/7/365 bombardment of "news" when someone other than a white guy shoots up a bunch of people?
Because most black shootings of 4 or more are black on black killings. The news has always not given appropriate attention to black on black crime. If a black person shoots a bunch of white people they will get the coverage.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
The Second Amendment doesn't 'give' anyone anything.

The Second Amendment right is inalienable.

Although inalienable, the right is not 'absolute.'

Government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on guns consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence.

It is not a right to possess any weapon one wishes, to carry that weapon anywhere one wishes, in any manner one wishes.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
So do you believe in ANY limitations to American citizens owning firearms? Mental patients, children, etc. if so, how do you constitutionally justify it?
 
The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
I agree that Reagan and the NRA both seriously fuck up and I will never forgive either.

.
Fuck Reagan and the NRA. They dont go far enough and Reagan trampled all over our rights and liberties. And abused the shit out of his power.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
So do you believe in ANY limitations to American citizens owning firearms? Mental patients, children, etc. if so, how do you constitutionally justify it?
How have they justified, Constitutionally, banning machine guns and the many other weapons of war that citizens cannot posses. And banning felons from possessing guns of any kind.
 
No the states do not, the states have the NG which is under the government, and they will never fight the government nor will the right wing militias, as they will lose.

I would just ban assault weapons including the semi automatic pistols, that would settle it. I also would ban all magazines that hold more than 10 bullets, and no more than one on a person or in a vehicle.

There wasn't even a state when the 2nd Amendment was wrote.
Lol
The military is overwhelmingly pro second amendment they would never go against their own you stupid ass motherfucker....
My point is if you are fighting for the 2nd amendment why limit yourself to guns? Maybe larger more powerful arms scare you. You are just a bag of hot air.
Lol
The Fact is the military would turn on a fucked up collective like our federal government/deep state
 
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The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
67893608_3090728487635565_6420598103153311744_o.jpg
That's a pretty diverse group of perps. So how come we don't get the 24/7/365 bombardment of "news" when someone other than a white guy shoots up a bunch of people?
Yep,
Mass shootings don’t require any one “color”... Fact
But there is one thing absolutely necessary for mass shooters.... progressivism
 
No the states do not, the states have the NG which is under the government, and they will never fight the government nor will the right wing militias, as they will lose.

I would just ban assault weapons including the semi automatic pistols, that would settle it. I also would ban all magazines that hold more than 10 bullets, and no more than one on a person or in a vehicle.

There wasn't even a state when the 2nd Amendment was wrote.
Lol
The military is overwhelmingly pro second amendment they would never go against their own you stupid ass motherfucker....
My point is if you are fighting for the 2nd amendment why limit yourself to guns? Maybe larger more powerful arms scare you. You are just a bag of hot air.
Lol
The Fact is the military would turn on a fucked up collective like our federal government/deep state

You know that for a fact? You didn't pay the price of admission.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
The Second Amendment doesn't 'give' anyone anything.

The Second Amendment right is inalienable.

Although inalienable, the right is not 'absolute.'

Government has the authority to place limits and restrictions on guns consistent with Second Amendment jurisprudence.

It is not a right to possess any weapon one wishes, to carry that weapon anywhere one wishes, in any manner one wishes.
Lol
Without the second amendment to the constitution is an spineless document... fact
 
The NRA was all for gun control back in the 60's to keep guns out of the blacks hands. Ronald Reagan past some laws in California making that state with some of the strictest of the times.

So NRA was for it before being against it. How hypocritical.

https://www.history.com/news/black-...VhDdJ6k8Lw-5z3ap30o92eJODgAXukQu_j3HiAuYuEZbk

In contrast to the NRA’s rigid opposition to gun control in today’s America, the organization fought alongside the government for stricter gun regulations in the 1960s. This was part of an effort to keep guns out of the hands of African-Americans as racial tensions in the nation grew. The NRA felt especially threatened by the Black Panthers, whose well-photographed carrying of weapons in public spaces was entirely legal in the state of California, where they were based.
67893608_3090728487635565_6420598103153311744_o.jpg
That's a pretty diverse group of perps. So how come we don't get the 24/7/365 bombardment of "news" when someone other than a white guy shoots up a bunch of people?
Yep,
Mass shootings don’t require any one “color”... Fact
But there is one thing absolutely necessary for mass shooters.... progressivism

Wrong, cupcake, the only thing it needs is sickness in the head.
 
The 2nd Amendment gives all citizens the right to"bear arms".
definition of arms
synonyms: weapons (of war), weaponry, firearms, guns, ordnance, cannon, artillery, armaments, munitions, instruments of war, war machines, military supplies, materiel
"arms and ammunition"

The states wanted to have the capability of having militias as a check on the Federal government.

Arms means all weapons of war the Federal government can have.

That is not happening in the 21st century. Since the 2nd amendment was written the majority of arms have been banned from possession by the citizens. We have restricted what citizens cannot have arms; felons.

Red tag laws, banning certain semi-automatic guns and background checks to own a gun is small time compared to the laws already on the books banning arms to be owned by citizens.
So do you believe in ANY limitations to American citizens owning firearms? Mental patients, children, etc. if so, how do you constitutionally justify it?
How have they justified, Constitutionally, banning machine guns and the many other weapons of war that citizens cannot posses. And banning felons from possessing guns of any kind.
Laws are justified by the will of the majority of the people, enacted consistent with Constitutional case law.
 

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