The 2020 Election: An Objective Look. Was it Rigged or was it Fair?

[leftwinger]

ARIZ: no big Trump bumps but Big Obiden bumps in 2020.

 

[leftwinger]

All big counties hated Trump in MI in 2020//
Even the 3AM vote dump is mentioned.

 

[Foxfyre]

There’s no credible evidence the election was stolen which means claims that it was are hoaxes.

The hoaxes were disproven over and over again.

The problem is you don’t find anything that disproves your narrative to be credible. You just cross your arms, plug your ears and deny.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/31/g-s1-2298/publisher-of-2000-mules-election-conspiracy-theory-film-issues-apology

Fox, Dominion reach $787M settlement over election claims

Fox and Dominion Voting Systems have reached a $787 million settlement in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit. The agreement averts a trial in a case that exposed how the top-rated network chased viewers by promoting lies about the 2020 presidential election. Dominion lawyer Justin...

apnews.com

Federal judge sanctions Trump attorneys for spreading false election fraud claims

It is the latest instance of the former president’s allies being penalized for their roles in spreading conspiracies about the 2020 vote.

www.nbcnews.com

What specific narrative have I presented here that is not credible? Where can you show I just plug my ears and deny? Can you give one shred of evidence from any credible source or even using logic and reason to dispute anything I've posted here?

Cut and past or just posting links that address other issues won't cut it with me.

 

[leftwinger]

Complete wipeout in COL where they flood out Mail in Ballots to anyone.

 

[toobfreak]

1. 155,507,476 total votes were cast in 2020. 140,609,765 total votes were cast in 2024. Almost 15,000,000 less votes were cast in 2024. Where did the 15,000,000 votes go? Any reasonable explanations?

Thank you, Queenie, you have brought up a number of good points, as well as having brought out a few facts and figures I had not heard before! Obviously, without dragging out a bunch of charts I have, 2020 was a huge anomaly in many different ways, from voting patterns to voter turnout. The left would have you think it was just "one of those things, but obviously, a whole boatload of people came out to vote who normally don't vote, people voted in ways never having voted before, and with rules which favored far more cheating and freedom to cheat than ever.

What is odd though is that the Left would have you think this was a massive outpouring of voters against Trump due to Covid-19 even though Trump had little to do with the pandemic. No country on the planet succeeded in beating it, and if it were against Trump, where were they in 2024? And if those votes were for Joe Biden, again, where were they in 2024?

To add to the mix, the Left went out of their way to release a treatise on how they stole 2020 through a year-long campaign they orchestrated through a shadow coalition of partners (their words) to assure Trump not win the ballot, and gave exact details in a February '21 Time Magazine article bragging how they "saved America" from Trump in 2020; it requires some reading, but it is worth it:

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

https://www.allsides.com/story/perspectives-time-magazines-piece-2020-election-shadow-campaign

No, the 2020 election wasn’t stolen — but yes, it was underhandedly tilted

If you read the headline of a blockbuster, 6,000-word-plus story in Time magazine, you might think former President Donald Trump wasn’t so wrong about the election, after all. Despite the tease, Mo…

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2. California cast 7,500,000 million less votes in 2024 versus 2020. Can anyone explain this? And this drop off includes a former California Senator and Attorney General on the ballot.

That is very curious, and inexplicable. Most interesting that HALF of all votes missing in 2024 for the democrats all came from the bluest state in the union! I might also add, a state that moved farther towards the red in '24 than anyone else.

3. The election can be stolen based on a handful on counties in key swing states. For instance, 70% of the population of Arizona lives in Maricopa County. In 2020 Maricopa County cast 2,036,439 votes. Trump lost. In 2024 Maricopa County cast 1,344,556 votes. Trump won. Maricopa County saw a 36% drop off in votes cast. Any reasonable explanations?

Very curious.

4. The massive drop off in votes from 2020 happened almost exclusively in Blue states. New York had a million less votes cast in 2024 from 8.5 million to 7.5 million. How is this possible? Washington State had 4,000,000 votes cast in 2020. Ony 2.5 million were cast in 2024. This is obviously impossible to have a 40% drop off in votes in a rapidly growing state.

So between California, New York and Washington, three of the bluest states most supporting democrats, accounts for a loss of ten million votes for Biden/Harris, or 2/3rds of the anomaly; the very states with the most to gain by keeping Biden/Harris in office!

Theories offered include:

1. Covid-19 turned so many against Trump, this created the anomaly, except that Trump had little if anything to do with Covid, Covid was a disease he did not bring here or cause, Covid was a disease no one had an effective remedy for, and in actuality, more died of it under Biden anyway! In fact, it was the democrats whole engineered our Covid lockdowns.
2. The economy. Except the economy was GREAT under Trump, until the democrats shut it down in 2020 as their means of combating Covid. And they gave us a far worse economy in 2021, 2022, and 2023.
3. But if those 15 million votes were really FOR Joe Biden, not against Trump, Biden lost badly the first two times he tried to run (got 1.5% of the vote). They certainly didn't support him in 2024, nor did even his own party.
4. OK, so, let us say it was Harris' fault. That seems to be where the Left is going, blaming her. That means that 2020 81 million turnout wasn't against Trump, because he was still running in 2024, and it wasn't for Joe Biden neither because after his debate in June '24, everyone supported his replacement.

ALL THAT LEAVES is the shadow campaign I linked to, where the democrats both went out spending over $400,000 to drum up as many votes as they could as well as scare up every vote they could fake, lie or steal due to the laxness of the 2020 Covid voting rules.

 

[Marener]

What specific narrative have I presented here that is not credible? Where can you show I just plug my ears and deny? Can you give one shred of evidence from any credible source or even using logic and reason to dispute anything I've posted here?

Cut and past or just posting links that address other issues won't cut it with me.

Right now you’re ignoring my links proving that the stolen election narrative was a hoax.

 

[leftwinger]

Crap I could go on and on. MI shows 9 outlier counties. Outside expected Bell curve.

 

[Foxfyre]

Claiming that CBS was engaged in some sort of illegal election interference while denying that other agencies had done it with Trump.

Show where I said that. Or anything like that.

Advice: When you've dug yourself into a hole you can't get out of, the smart thing to do is stop digging.

 

[Marener]

ARIZ: no big Trump bumps but Big Obiden bumps in 2020.

Trump sure did piss off a lot of people in Arizona.

 

[Marener]

Show where I said that. Or anything like that.

Advice: When you've dug yourself into a hole you can't get out of, the smart thing to do is stop digging.

I shouldn’t distract from the thread. It would run afoul of the rules of the forum.

You are ignoring the links proving the stolen narrative was a hoax.

 

[leftwinger]

Ingram county 2016 vs 2020. No statistical abnomolies present.

2020 showing built in offset?



Same offset in BiG OAK county for Blue votes.
They suggest Computer Algorithm is cause of built in offset across big Biden jump counties. 2016 was normal shown below.

2020 looks like small ingram county 2020 above.


Somebody has some explaining to do?

 

[leftwinger]

I give up for a while my butt hurts. And Anger builds up. somebody else look at it?
May have to find it with DuckDuckGo then download PDF?

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://election-integrity.info/Contrast_Report.pdf

efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://election-integrity.info/Contrast_Report.pdf

 

[Marener]

Ingram county 2016 vs 2020.
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Same offset in OAK county for Blue votes. They suggest Computer Algorithm is cause of built in offset.
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This is a lot of work for zero substance.

All theyre showing is that Dems were more likely to vote absentee than republicans.

But we knew that.

 

[leftwinger]

This is a lot of work for zero substance.

All theyre showing is that Dems were more likely to vote absentee than republicans.

But we knew that.

OH you missed the built in offset in 2020 in the MI Counties? I could post more too.
you go look it up. Smarten yourself up instead of attacking those that try to get to the bottom of it.
Read the fine print. I don't have a PDF editor here. I can't spoon feed you. Explain it Genius?
A CONSISTENT ratio in every voting site? huh? I could go post all nine. Call it your home work.

There should be NO CONSISTENT OFFEST across precients in MI counites compared to 2016.
Where did that come from? A consistent ratio in vote differences in every little voting booth?

 

[Marener]

There should be NO CONSISTENT OFFEST across precients in MI counites compared to 2016.

Why? Voting patterns change.

 

[leftwinger]

This is a lot of work for zero substance.

All theyre showing is that Dems were more likely to vote absentee than republicans.

But we knew that.

Right. 9 counties follow a clear pattern in 2020?

Macomb county? same thing. Get the picture now?

 

[Marener]

Macomb county? same thing. Get the picture now?

Nope. Just showing broad based shift in voting patterns for that election

You do know we were in the midst of COVID, right? Seems like that would have an impact and you wouldn’t have to invent a conspiracy about voter fraud.

 

[leftwinger]

 

[leftwinger]

For the record: Trump votes statistically normal.
Obiden votes off the charts 9 MI Counties.
200,000 suspicious votes in MI.

 

[Marener]

For the record: Trump votes statistically normal.
Obiden votes off the charts 9 MI Counties.
200,000 suspicious votes in MI.
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The fatal flaw is expecting every election to be like the previous election.

Obviously that is an invalid assumption.