The 1980's Have Called, with a warning.

[The Rabbi]

Poor, poor Bush

Not too good at geography. All that effort in invading Iraq and surprise, surprise, surprise......OBL was in Pakistan

Good thing he put the Machine in Place that was Capable of finally Capturing bin Laden, eh?...

Because you KNOW Barry didn't Support it before becoming President, you Shameless Hack.



peace...

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

 

[rightwinger]

Good thing he put the Machine in Place that was Capable of finally Capturing bin Laden, eh?...

Because you KNOW Barry didn't Support it before becoming President, you Shameless Hack.



peace...

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

 

[Redfish]

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

 

[rightwinger]

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

What I am saying is that Cheney got the intelligence he asked for

And yes, the Democrats should have known better

 

[The Rabbi]

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

Not just the CIA but every intelligence agency in the West as well. And they were consistent in this for years.
No the truth is everyone thought there were WMDs because Saddam intentionally created that impression. But WMDs were not the sole or even primary reason for invading. That reason was repeated undermining of terms and violation. This part goes down the memory hole with Democrats.

 

[rightwinger]

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

Not just the CIA but every intelligence agency in the West as well. And they were consistent in this for years.
No the truth is everyone thought there were WMDs because Saddam intentionally created that impression. But WMDs were not the sole or even primary reason for invading. That reason was repeated undermining of terms and violation. This part goes down the memory hole with Democrats.

Except for Hans Blix who was actually doing the UN inspections. He told Bush to hold off on the invasion and he could prove there were no WMDs. Bush attacked before he could be proven wrong

 

[mal]

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

and what did Barry do with the control he was given in 2008 to undo anything Bush did with the Support of DemocRATS?...

Aside from leaving Iraq and Afghanistan on the projected timelines that Bush set up?...

And leave them in shambles.

Awesome Community Organizer is Awesome.



peace...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Good thing he put the Machine in Place that was Capable of finally Capturing bin Laden, eh?...

Because you KNOW Barry didn't Support it before becoming President, you Shameless Hack.



peace...

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

If it had been up to the Democrats there would not have been an Iraq war. If it had been up to the Democrats,

the authorization would have never gotten out of the House of Representatives.

 

[rightwinger]

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

and what did Barry do with the control he was given in 2008 to undo anything Bush did with the Support of DemocRATS?...

Aside from leaving Iraq and Afghanistan on the projected timelines that Bush set up?...

And leave them in shambles.

Awesome Community Organizer is Awesome.



peace...

What he did was get the hell out of Iraq as soon as he could. Then he moved emphasis back to Afghanistan to clean up the mess Bush left when he abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq

Most importantly, he started hitting the terrorists where they were hiding in Yemen and Pakistan. Even got himself an Osama bin Laden

 

[Redfish]

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

If it had been up to the Democrats there would not have been an Iraq war. If it had been up to the Democrats,

the authorization would have never gotten out of the House of Representatives.

horseshit

Freedom Agenda - Quotes and Facts on Iraq

 

[Redfish]

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

and what did Barry do with the control he was given in 2008 to undo anything Bush did with the Support of DemocRATS?...

Aside from leaving Iraq and Afghanistan on the projected timelines that Bush set up?...

And leave them in shambles.

Awesome Community Organizer is Awesome.



peace...

What he did was get the hell out of Iraq as soon as he could. Then he moved emphasis back to Afghanistan to clean up the mess Bush left when he abandoned the war on terror to invade Iraq

Most importantly, he started hitting the terrorists where they were hiding in Yemen and Pakistan. Even got himself an Osama bin Laden

Freedom Agenda - Quotes and Facts on Iraq

 

[The Rabbi]

Too bad the Bush machine pointed him to Iraq instead of Pakistan. But damn.....all them Muslims look alike

And the Democrats in Congress went along unquestioningly. What does that say about them?

If it had been up to the Democrats there would not have been an Iraq war. If it had been up to the Democrats,

the authorization would have never gotten out of the House of Representatives.

True. They would have voted to throw a missile at a tent in the desert and solemnly declare the perpetrators would be brought to justice.
al Qaeda would have staged an even bigger attack on the U.S. and Saddam would have developed a nuclear weapon, challenging Iran and creating a firestorm in the Middle East.
Thank Gd for George W Bush.

 

[auditor0007]

russians aren't full blown commies anymore, they learned how to make bank off the free market.

but I still don't think this puts russia on the top of the dangerous list. They don't have any real allies and I'm fairly certain china would take advantage if they could.

besides, it would be soldiers in uniforms and not civilian cloths. We'd get to cry havoc and let slip the hounds of war, in a brutal, one sided beat down.

Obama's next move should be to offer to place US military bases in all former Soviet Bloc countries as Putin has now proven that the sovereignty of these countries is now in jeopardy. Doing so would definitely be a Reaganesque move.

 

[Wry Catcher]

There was of course ample cause to invade Iraq. The issue was debated for months. Most Dems went along for what was then popular. They opposed it once it became unpopular. Because Dems are the biggest ******* hypocrites to walk the planet.
The Russia/Ukraine adventure is nothing like Iraq. It is more like Afghanistan c.1979. And Obama is playing Jimmy Carter to a T.

That too is the company line, one repeated ad nausea by you and other parrots. Most Democrats did not go along with the Iraq Resolution and nearly all Republicans did:

H. or Rep.

Democrats: 126 voted NO; 82 voted YES
Republicans: 6 voted NO; 215 voted YES

Senate:

D's: 21 voted NO; 29 voted YES
R's: 1 voted NO; 48 voted YES

The takeaway. Rabbi once again lies; and, the R's vote in lockstep and the D's vote their conscience.

Link: Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Democrats voted for it. The measure could not have passed without them. They continued to fund the war after they took over Congress.
Facts are simply not your friends here, **********.

You cannot spin your way out of a lie. "Most" Democrats in the H. of Rep. voted NO! The Total Number of Democrats in the H. of Rep Plus the Total Number of Democratic Senators who voted NO exceeded the total number of Democrats in the H. of Rep. and Senate who voted YES.

I do pity you, people with a backbone and self respect admit when they are wrong.


You lie, you're vulgar and a not very bright partisan hack.

 

[Katzndogz]

russians aren't full blown commies anymore, they learned how to make bank off the free market.

but I still don't think this puts russia on the top of the dangerous list. They don't have any real allies and I'm fairly certain china would take advantage if they could.

besides, it would be soldiers in uniforms and not civilian cloths. We'd get to cry havoc and let slip the hounds of war, in a brutal, one sided beat down.

Obama's next move should be to offer to place US military bases in all former Soviet Bloc countries as Putin has now proven that the sovereignty of these countries is now in jeopardy. Doing so would definitely be a Reaganesque move.

With what military would he do that? The one where troop strength is below 1940 levels and we have no attack aircraft?

Yes China will take advantage. Take advantage of us as it happens.

 

[auditor0007]

What it says is they lacked a spine

Post 9-11 histerics gave Bush a free pass to do what he needed to do to oppose terrorism. Why, we can't have them terrorists gettn hold of WMDs can we?

Voting against Bush on Iraq was framed as unpatriotic. In their defense, more Democrats said no than said yes.....but enough Dems bought the Bush Bullshit to authorize Bushs blunder of an invasion

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

Not just the CIA but every intelligence agency in the West as well. And they were consistent in this for years.
No the truth is everyone thought there were WMDs because Saddam intentionally created that impression. But WMDs were not the sole or even primary reason for invading. That reason was repeated undermining of terms and violation. This part goes down the memory hole with Democrats.

You are correct that it was all the intelligence information we had, and you are correct that Saddam actually created this illusion himself. What you are missing is the fact that Hans Blix and the UN Inspectors were not finding any WMD, and yet we still decided to start a war that was useless in the end. Had we just waited a bit longer, it would have become evident that Iraq had nothing and all of the mess that became the Iraq War could have been avoided. On top of that, it would have given us much more manpower to put to use in Afghanistan where the real problem was.

 

[Redfish]

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

Not just the CIA but every intelligence agency in the West as well. And they were consistent in this for years.
No the truth is everyone thought there were WMDs because Saddam intentionally created that impression. But WMDs were not the sole or even primary reason for invading. That reason was repeated undermining of terms and violation. This part goes down the memory hole with Democrats.

You are correct that it was all the intelligence information we had, and you are correct that Saddam actually created this illusion himself. What you are missing is the fact that Hans Blix and the UN Inspectors were not finding any WMD, and yet we still decided to start a war that was useless in the end. Had we just waited a bit longer, it would have become evident that Iraq had nothing and all of the mess that became the Iraq War could have been avoided. On top of that, it would have given us much more manpower to put to use in Afghanistan where the real problem was.

all true, what you left out is that both parties authorized and funded that waste of lives and money.

 

[Derideo_Te]

russians aren't full blown commies anymore, they learned how to make bank off the free market.

but I still don't think this puts russia on the top of the dangerous list. They don't have any real allies and I'm fairly certain china would take advantage if they could.

besides, it would be soldiers in uniforms and not civilian cloths. We'd get to cry havoc and let slip the hounds of war, in a brutal, one sided beat down.

Obama's next move should be to offer to place US military bases in all former Soviet Bloc countries as Putin has now proven that the sovereignty of these countries is now in jeopardy. Doing so would definitely be a Reaganesque move.

With what military would he do that? The one where troop strength is below 1940 levels and we have no attack aircraft?

Yes China will take advantage. Take advantage of us as it happens.

Who placed the original order for those F-22 "attack aircraft" that are not up to par?

Since it was 1981 that would have been Reagan!

But somehow you see fit to blame Obama!



As far as troop strength is concerned where do the Pentagon manuals require that US troops must be stationed in former USSR military bases? Why wasn't the funding for this provided by the Republicans when they were waging war in the ME? Why didn't the "War President" make sure that he had sufficient troop levels to occupy those bases?

 

[Redfish]

Obama's next move should be to offer to place US military bases in all former Soviet Bloc countries as Putin has now proven that the sovereignty of these countries is now in jeopardy. Doing so would definitely be a Reaganesque move.

With what military would he do that? The one where troop strength is below 1940 levels and we have no attack aircraft?

Yes China will take advantage. Take advantage of us as it happens.

Who placed the original order for those F-22 "attack aircraft" that are not up to par?

Since it was 1981 that would have been Reagan!

But somehow you see fit to blame Obama!



As far as troop strength is concerned where do the Pentagon manuals require that US troops must be stationed in former USSR military bases? Why wasn't the funding for this provided by the Republicans when they were waging war in the ME? Why didn't the "War President" make sure that he had sufficient troop levels to occupy those bases?

actually you need to ask that question to the democrats who have controlled congress for most of the last 75 years.

 

[The Rabbi]

if it was bullshit, then it was CIA and FBI bullshit. You are either saying that the CIA and FBI lied or that the dems were too stupid to see the truth. Which is it?

Not just the CIA but every intelligence agency in the West as well. And they were consistent in this for years.
No the truth is everyone thought there were WMDs because Saddam intentionally created that impression. But WMDs were not the sole or even primary reason for invading. That reason was repeated undermining of terms and violation. This part goes down the memory hole with Democrats.

You are correct that it was all the intelligence information we had, and you are correct that Saddam actually created this illusion himself. What you are missing is the fact that Hans Blix and the UN Inspectors were not finding any WMD, and yet we still decided to start a war that was useless in the end. Had we just waited a bit longer, it would have become evident that Iraq had nothing and all of the mess that became the Iraq War could have been avoided. On top of that, it would have given us much more manpower to put to use in Afghanistan where the real problem was.

Saddam had kicked the inspectors out many times. He denied access to many sites. There was never a scenario in which the inspectors would find nothing.
Obama pursued a surge strategy in Afghanistan because Bush had been successful with it Iraq (over Obama's objections btw). But it was a failure. No army has successfully invaded and occupied Afghanistan in 200 years, which is why Bush did not pursue that strategy.
Bush made the right calls, tough as they were.