Thames Water 12 hours of sewage into Fleet Marston brook

[JGalt]

As far as Labour in the UK you do need telling otherwise, the Country was built on the labour of the British people from the cotton mills to steel works and shipbuilding and many more such industries over many years,you insult those hardworking people by saying they don't want to work.

Traditionally, the so-called "Labour Party" was founded to represent working-class and trade union interests. But the party's relationship with this demographic has changed significantly over time. Several factors, including policy shifts, demographic changes, and Brexit, have fueled the perception that the party has lost touch with its traditional base.

For most of the 20th century, voting habits in Britain were strongly linked to social class, with the working class predominantly voting Labour. However, since the 1960s, this trend has steadily eroded.

 

[Deadstick]

Traditionally, the so-called "Labour Party" was founded to represent working-class and trade union interests. But the party's relationship with this demographic has changed significantly over time. Several factors, including policy shifts, demographic changes, and Brexit, have fueled the perception that the party has lost touch with its traditional base.

For most of the 20th century, voting habits in Britain were strongly linked to social class, with the working class predominantly voting Labour. However, since the 1960s, this trend has steadily eroded.

Because since Blair the party has lost it's way by moving to the right and neoliberalism, Starmer is the latest manifestation of it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Traditionally, the so-called "Labour Party" was founded to represent working-class and trade union interests. But the party's relationship with this demographic has changed significantly over time. Several factors, including policy shifts, demographic changes, and Brexit, have fueled the perception that the party has lost touch with its traditional base.

For most of the 20th century, voting habits in Britain were strongly linked to social class, with the working class predominantly voting Labour. However, since the 1960s, this trend has steadily eroded.

Labour declined as more realised, even Labour, that Socialism doesn't work.

What shape do you think a society is in when a proportion of voters believe nationalisation is the way forward, but 380 years of it has produced the same, if not worse, results as 36 years of privatisation? Doesn't bode well imo.

 

[JGalt]

Labour declined as more realised, even Labour, that Socialism doesn't work.

What shape do you think a society is in when a proportion of voters believe nationalisation is the way forward, but 380 years of it has produced the same, if not worse, results as 36 years of privatisation? Doesn't bode well imo.

Even worse is the UK's disastrous immigration policies. People have had just about enough of open borders and inviting anyone and everyone.

 

[Deadstick]

Even worse is the UK's disastrous immigration policies. People have had just about enough of open borders and inviting anyone and everyone.

No one invited those boat people.

 

[Captain Caveman]

No one invited those boat people.

The naivety is outstanding.

 

[Deadstick]

The naivety is outstanding.

Galt said it was Government immigration policy, it isn't British Government policy to launch boats from France to land on Kent beaches, he is talking nonsense.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Galt said it was Government immigration policy, it isn't British Government policy to launch boats from France to land on Kent beaches, he is talking nonsense.

The EU's free movement of people is/was Utopian in thought. The dregs just moved to the better countries and more dregs outside of the EU swarmed in seeking luxury, at our cost. And when they're not kicked out but put into 4 star hotels, fed, given a bank card, free healthcare etc.., it attracts greater swarms of the dregs. So the naivety was outstanding. Were you expecting to get a telegram off them or France first to seek permission to illegally enter?

 

[Deadstick]

The EU's free movement of people is/was Utopian in thought. The dregs just moved to the better countries and more dregs outside of the EU swarmed in seeking luxury, at our cost. And when they're not kicked out but put into 4 star hotels, fed, given a bank card, free healthcare etc.., it attracts greater swarms of the dregs. So the naivety was outstanding. Were you expecting to get a telegram off them or France first to seek permission to illegally enter?

Free movement was for EU Citizens within the EU borders nothing to do with these boat people claiming asylum.

 

[JGalt]

No one invited those boat people.

So they aree foreign invaders.

Apparently you have a bigger problem than you realized.

 

[Deadstick]

So they aree foreign invaders.

Apparently you have a bigger problem than you realized.

They are classed as asylum seekers until there case is heard by the authorities to see if their claim is legit, problem is they have not been processed quick enough so there is a massive backlog built up over years by the Tories who ruled for 14 years, they are the ones who started putting them in Hotels, but they don't live a 5 star life they are more like hostels.

 

[Dekster]

Poop happens I guess. My city right here in the US has been fined a few times over the years for doing this. I would rather have that stuff hit a waterway than backing up into my house though. My guess is that particular plant probably processes storm drain run off too. In our case, heavy rains caused the settling ponds to overflow from surface inundation. Most all of our storm drains hit creeks or streams without going through sewage treatment.

 

[JGalt]

They are classed as asylum seekers until there case is heard by the authorities to see if their claim is legit, problem is they have not been processed quick enough so there is a massive backlog built up over years by the Tories who ruled for 14 years, they are the ones who started putting them in Hotels, but they don't live a 5 star life they are more like hostels.

In case you live in a cave without TV news, it sure as hell isn't Labour Party members who are out in the streets protesting your government's immigration problem and free speech violations.

 

[Deadstick]

In case you live in a cave without TV news, it sure as hell isn't Labour Party members who are out in the streets protesting your government's immigration problem and free speech violations.

What are you barking about? i know very well who is demonstrating in my Country.

 

[JGalt]

What are you barking about? i know very well who is demonstrating in my Country.

Of course you do, and yet you keep supporting the Labor Party and their move toward socialism.

 

[Deadstick]

Of course you do, and yet you keep supporting the Labor Party and their move toward socialism.

I didn't vote for the labour party and i don't support Starmer which you would know if you read any of my posts, but i do support Democratic Socialism, Starmer is no Socialist trust me.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Free movement was for EU Citizens within the EU borders nothing to do with these boat people claiming asylum.

Yes, any the whole ******* planet is gonna respect that and stay home

You are such a gullible pillock.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

The EU's free movement of people is/was Utopian in thought. The dregs just moved to the better countries and more dregs outside of the EU swarmed in seeking luxury, at our cost. And when they're not kicked out but put into 4 star hotels, fed, given a bank card, free healthcare etc.., it attracts greater swarms of the dregs. So the naivety was outstanding. Were you expecting to get a telegram off them or France first to seek permission to illegally enter?

Even Schengen is falling apart. I was recently on a train from Marseille to Frankfurt, and at the French - German border, the train stopped, and 6 German border police got in to go around checking the passengers.

 

[Mack The Finger]

I never understood UK politics.

I thought the Parliament debate was a Monty Python skit...the first time I saw it.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Captain C; l’ve got a brilliant idea.

Get all of those old cross channel hovercrafts out of retirement, and have them waiting on the beach at Dover for the small boats, load them up with illegal migrants, and take them back to France.