Texas to arrest Sanctuary City Leaders, Police Chiefs, etc...

[JoeB131]

Why do swallow everything the media feeds you?

Why do you turn child molesting cultists into heroes?

 

[miketx]

Why do swallow everything the media feeds you?

Why do you turn child molesting cultists into heroes?

I have done no such thing, liar. Stop lying. It's all you ever do is lie!

 

[JoeB131]

I have done no such thing, liar. Stop lying. It's all you ever do is lie!

You are the one who thinks that these cultists who killed themselves are 'victims'... not me.

I'm glad we got them out of the gene pool.

 

[miketx]

I have done no such thing, liar. Stop lying. It's all you ever do is lie!

You are the one who thinks that these cultists who killed themselves are 'victims'... not me.

I'm glad we got them out of the gene pool.

Tell me liar, show me, liar, where I ever said that? STOP LYING!

 

[JoeB131]

Tell me liar, show me, liar, where I ever said that? STOP LYING!

Do you even read your own posts?

 

[miketx]

As usual, you will just keep lying. It's all you ever do. Lie lie lie lie lie lie. Where did I say that, liar?

 

[JoeB131]

As usual, you will just keep lying. It's all you ever do. Lie lie lie lie lie lie. Where did I say that, liar?

You said the government lied about Waco. You've made the Davidians (drug dealing, child raping, gun smuggling cultists) into heroes.

 

[miketx]

As usual, you will just keep lying. It's all you ever do. Lie lie lie lie lie lie. Where did I say that, liar?

You said the government lied about Waco. You've made the Davidians (drug dealing, child raping, gun smuggling cultists) into heroes.

I said why do you believe all the government feeds you. That is all, liar. Did you witness them dealing drugs, running guns, molesting children? No you didn't, but you believe anything you see in the media.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

First of all, Janet Reno hadn't even been confirmed yet when the shootout with the ATF Happened, and the ATF wasn't under the auspices of Justice at that time.

The 51-day siege of Mount Carmel Center ended on April 19 when U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno approved recommendations of FBI officials to proceed with a final assault in which the Branch Davidians were to be removed from their building by force. In the course of the assault, the church building caught on fire in circumstances that are still disputed.

David Koresh - Wikipedia

Except he didn't go out every morning, and the point wasn't to arrest Koresh, it was to search the compound for illegal guns and drugs.

He was the leader of the clan and the authorities knew it. He did go to town--quite a bit. And it would have been effortless to take him in even if it was for questioning which the authorities are allowed to hold a suspect for 72 hours.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

As usual, you will just keep lying. It's all you ever do. Lie lie lie lie lie lie. Where did I say that, liar?

You said the government lied about Waco. You've made the Davidians (drug dealing, child raping, gun smuggling cultists) into heroes.

Again no actual evidence was EVER presented to support those claims No automatic weapons No drugs no selling of firearms and no molestation , those werre all lies Janet reno came up with to Justify the murder of children.

 

[danielpalos]

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That court had no jurisdiction and the Justice Department will deny grants to such cities, anyway. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to impound funds appropriated by Congress and nearly every president since has done the same. In 1974, Congress passed a law requiring the president to petition Congress within 45 days of impounding such funds to rescind those funds. Since the third president of the US has ever claimed this action was unconstitutional and this ruling is a clear abuse of power by the judge and need not be obeyed.

did you know, some people learned how to not take the right wing seriously about the law, or economics?

 

[danielpalos]

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That will be overturned by the Supreme Court.

The Justice Department will, hopefully, disregard this ruling and force a constitutional crisis on the issue of misbehavior by these rogue judges who abuse their power for political reasons.

We have a Commerce Clause.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What's with this racism bull shit?

Janet and the ATF attacked U.S. citizens

Comprehend?

First of all, Janet Reno hadn't even been confirmed yet when the shootout with the ATF Happened, and the ATF wasn't under the auspices of Justice at that time.

Second, the ATF had a valid warrant to search the premises. there was no rationale for shooting at them.

It could of been real peaceful

But Janet was under orders from Bill ...


So much waste..

Not really. 76 less batshit cultists in the world? No great loss.

I mean, it is sad these people were so deluded they let Koresh molest their kids and then all committed mass suicide rather than see him go to prison.

But no great loss.

Exactly.. all the cops had to do is arrest David when he went out in the morning to eat breakfast..

Except he didn't go out every morning, and the point wasn't to arrest Koresh, it was to search the compound for illegal guns and drugs.

They pulled up in a horse trailer... and jumped out. They were asking for a fight



.

 

[JoeB131]

I said why do you believe all the government feeds you. That is all, liar. Did you witness them dealing drugs, running guns, molesting children? No you didn't, but you believe anything you see in the media.

Actually, I believe it because his own followers have admitted that's what they were doing.

Not to mention multiple investigations, even ones by Republicans who spent way too much time pandering to nuts like you before they asked John Danforth to bail them out.

The 51-day siege of Mount Carmel Center ended on April 19 when U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno approved recommendations of FBI officials to proceed with a final assault in which the Branch Davidians were to be removed from their building by force. In the course of the assault, the church building caught on fire in circumstances that are still disputed.

Dummy, go back and read what I said. The ATF shootout happened on Feb 23, before Reno was confirmed. And she didn't run the ATF. The ATF had been investigating the Branch Kiddy-diddlers since Bush was in office.

He was the leader of the clan and the authorities knew it. He did go to town--quite a bit. And it would have been effortless to take him in even if it was for questioning which the authorities are allowed to hold a suspect for 72 hours.

Again, they weren't after him, they were after the guns.

They pick him up with no evidence, they had to let him go in 72 hours where he'd go back to the compound and diddle some more kiddies.

Again no actual evidence was EVER presented to support those claims No automatic weapons No drugs no selling of firearms and no molestation , those werre all lies Janet reno came up with to Justify the murder of children.

Except John Danforth investigated it, and found.. Yup... illegal guns, kiddy diddling and the bastards offed themselves.

 

[Crixus]

It is fun reading simplistic solutions to complex problems. Until Trump ran for president, which seemed to attract simplistic people like catnip attracts cats, I had no idea just how many people buy into this kind of problem solving! I first noticed it when Trump said that he was going to deport 12 million illegal aliens within 2 years, which is impossible without violating the Constitution. Of course, now he isn't even talking about how many he will deport in any time frame. Nobody has even come out with a clear definition of what a sanctuary city is, but by god, they have to be punished! Texas is always up there with simplistic solutions. The law that they are trying to pass is so blatantly unconstitutional that it boggles the mind with questions, like, "Do they even have a law school in that state?"

Enforcing A standing law is unconstitutional?

 

[Crixus]

So much for state rights!

That doesn't even make sense considering the topic. lol

It's timmy... Anything related to intellect doesn't apply. That being said i look forward to the first politician being arrested for violating their oath of office.

Would be cool, but Trump is already running from his promises. Not bashing the guy, just saying. This is a common thing especially with Republicans. I point to Dubyas " compassionate conservatism " bull shit when he promised to take care of illegal immigrants. In short eh told a lie. Trump is to, he is just killing time. Won't work. Trump won't get away with this like Booosh did.

 

[Crixus]

I said why do you believe all the government feeds you. That is all, liar. Did you witness them dealing drugs, running guns, molesting children? No you didn't, but you believe anything you see in the media.

Actually, I believe it because his own followers have admitted that's what they were doing.

Not to mention multiple investigations, even ones by Republicans who spent way too much time pandering to nuts like you before they asked John Danforth to bail them out.

The 51-day siege of Mount Carmel Center ended on April 19 when U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno approved recommendations of FBI officials to proceed with a final assault in which the Branch Davidians were to be removed from their building by force. In the course of the assault, the church building caught on fire in circumstances that are still disputed.

Dummy, go back and read what I said. The ATF shootout happened on Feb 23, before Reno was confirmed. And she didn't run the ATF. The ATF had been investigating the Branch Kiddy-diddlers since Bush was in office.

He was the leader of the clan and the authorities knew it. He did go to town--quite a bit. And it would have been effortless to take him in even if it was for questioning which the authorities are allowed to hold a suspect for 72 hours.

Again, they weren't after him, they were after the guns.

They pick him up with no evidence, they had to let him go in 72 hours where he'd go back to the compound and diddle some more kiddies.

Again no actual evidence was EVER presented to support those claims No automatic weapons No drugs no selling of firearms and no molestation , those werre all lies Janet reno came up with to Justify the murder of children.

Except John Danforth investigated it, and found.. Yup... illegal guns, kiddy diddling and the bastards offed themselves.

Stupid argument on yet another topic you don't have a clue about. It was common knowledge Korean could have been taken at any time. All the Feds had to do was ask the county sheriff to do it and they would have snatched them. They did not. So what happened happened. This is why the Feds paired out money, and this is why no Branch Davidian went to prision. Lame deflection.

 

[danielpalos]

It is fun reading simplistic solutions to complex problems. Until Trump ran for president, which seemed to attract simplistic people like catnip attracts cats, I had no idea just how many people buy into this kind of problem solving! I first noticed it when Trump said that he was going to deport 12 million illegal aliens within 2 years, which is impossible without violating the Constitution. Of course, now he isn't even talking about how many he will deport in any time frame. Nobody has even come out with a clear definition of what a sanctuary city is, but by god, they have to be punished! Texas is always up there with simplistic solutions. The law that they are trying to pass is so blatantly unconstitutional that it boggles the mind with questions, like, "Do they even have a law school in that state?"

Enforcing A standing law is unconstitutional?

Yes, if that law itself, is not constitutional. not every Thing our federal Congress writes on formerly blank pieces of paper and has enacted as law, passes Constitutional muster.

 

[Crixus]

It is fun reading simplistic solutions to complex problems. Until Trump ran for president, which seemed to attract simplistic people like catnip attracts cats, I had no idea just how many people buy into this kind of problem solving! I first noticed it when Trump said that he was going to deport 12 million illegal aliens within 2 years, which is impossible without violating the Constitution. Of course, now he isn't even talking about how many he will deport in any time frame. Nobody has even come out with a clear definition of what a sanctuary city is, but by god, they have to be punished! Texas is always up there with simplistic solutions. The law that they are trying to pass is so blatantly unconstitutional that it boggles the mind with questions, like, "Do they even have a law school in that state?"

Enforcing A standing law is unconstitutional?

Yes, if that law itself, is not constitutional. not every Thing our federal Congress writes on formerly blank pieces of paper and has enacted as law, passes Constitutional muster.

Then why have those laws been on the books for so many years ?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I understand that you lefties think that semantics define reality.


In reality if a person enters this country in violation of the law, they are a illegal alien. That they might not have been caught yet, does not change that.


If I illegally enter someone else's property, I am a trespasser, regardless of whether or not I have been caught.

And if you drive at 56MPH in a 55 zone, you are speeding... but most sensible people wouldn't pull you over.

So that means I can rob a bank as long as I dont take all the money?