Texas to arrest Sanctuary City Leaders, Police Chiefs, etc...

[Timmy]

You mean the militia law, you are aware that does not in anyway restrict who can and can not own possess or use weapons right? And that the Supreme Court ruled that the 2nd is in an INDIVIDUAL right not a collective right?

There is no individual right, regarding the militia.

It is not now nor ever a requirement to be IN a militia to own possess or use firearms. And the Supreme Court so ruled.

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

 

[WEATHER53]

Omamma made law disrespect a cottage industry, cloaked in racism that no one wanted to refute, add millions of fatherless and direction less males, and you have what we have today
Oh, and the newest element introduced is that expecting people to be on time is just a white man constraint thus rooted in racism???

 

[Vandalshandle]

Since being here without permission isn't actually a felony, 'undocumented immigrants" is actually the correct term.

It's illegal to commit any crime, even if it's not a felony. Illegal entry makes them illegal aliens. If you sneak into someone's home you're not a guest, undocumented or otherwise. You are a criminal. You guys make 'undocumented' sound like nothing more than an insignificant piece of paper. No documents mean no permission, which means against federal law. It should be treated seriously.

If congress would clarify the birthright citizenship clause to deny citizenship for anchor babies, the problem would go away on it's own eventually.

Clementine, don't give up your day job to practice law. NOBODY is an illegal alien until convicted of being one in a court of law. Until then, they are an undocumented alien.

Another lefty who believes that reality is a function of perception.

Correll, the terms, "illegal alien", and "undocumented alien" are legal terms. i would not expect you to understand.

I understand that you lefties think that semantics define reality.


In reality if a person enters this country in violation of the law, they are a illegal alien. That they might not have been caught yet, does not change that.


If I illegally enter someone else's property, I am a trespasser, regardless of whether or not I have been caught.

...and if an attorney were to refer to a person on trial for illegal entry, as an "illegal alien", that person's attorney would object, and the judge would strike those words from the record, and tell the jury to disregard them. Does that make the judge a "lefty"?

 

[Thinker101]

There is no individual right, regarding the militia.

It is not now nor ever a requirement to be IN a militia to own possess or use firearms. And the Supreme Court so ruled.

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

Funny how lefties are not strict constitutionalists until it fits their narrative.

 

[Vandalshandle]

What, specifically, does a Sanctuary city do that is in violation of federal law, and if that were true, why hasn't anyone in any of the 200 plus sanctuary cities been charged, indicted, arrested, convicted, and incarcerated for breaking federal laws?

How ******* stupid can you be? It is a civil offense, not a criminal offense, you moron.

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

 

[Vandalshandle]

It is not now nor ever a requirement to be IN a militia to own possess or use firearms. And the Supreme Court so ruled.

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

Funny how lefties are not strict constitutionalists until it fits their narrative.

Funny how virtually everything that Trump tries to do is found by federal courts to be unconstitutional. I am sure that it is a conspiracy!

 

[WEATHER53]

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

Funny how lefties are not strict constitutionalists until it fits their narrative.

Funny how virtually everything that Trump tries to do is found by federal courts to be unconstitutional. I am sure that it is a conspiracy!

This would be incorrect. No courts, no juries just bought and paid for federal judge or two likely with some blackmailable dirt on them
I know it's delightful to feel that such judges are a consensus but the facts are they are what we are getting rid of

 

[Thinker101]

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

Funny how lefties are not strict constitutionalists until it fits their narrative.

Funny how virtually everything that Trump tries to do is found by federal courts to be unconstitutional. I am sure that it is a conspiracy!

Federal courts meaning the Ninth Circuit Court...how many of their rulings have been overturned by the Supreme Court?

 

[WEATHER53]

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

Funny how righties are strict constitutionalists. Until it doesn't fit their narrative.

Funny how lefties are not strict constitutionalists until it fits their narrative.

Funny how virtually everything that Trump tries to do is found by federal courts to be unconstitutional. I am sure that it is a conspiracy!

Federal courts meaning the Ninth Circuit Court...how many of their rulings have been overturned by the Supreme Court?

80%

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You mean the militia law, you are aware that does not in anyway restrict who can and can not own possess or use weapons right? And that the Supreme Court ruled that the 2nd is in an INDIVIDUAL right not a collective right?

There is no individual right, regarding the militia.

It is not now nor ever a requirement to be IN a militia to own possess or use firearms. And the Supreme Court so ruled.

I am not claiming there is. You merely confuse, natural rights, with our Second Article of Amendment to our federal Constitution.

There are No natural rights secured by our Second Amendment.

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions and available via Due Process.

The militia has nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights except that to HAVE a militia the population must own possess and use firearms.

good thing you are retired.

the Second Amendment has every Thing to do, with the militia.

And the militia is NOT a requirement to own possess or use firearms as so ruled by the Supreme Court. The 2nd is an INDIVIDUAL right not connected to service in the militia.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

How ******* stupid can you be? It is a civil offense, not a criminal offense, you moron.

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That will be overturned by the Supreme Court.

 

[toomuchtime_]

How ******* stupid can you be? It is a civil offense, not a criminal offense, you moron.

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That court had no jurisdiction and the Justice Department will deny grants to such cities, anyway. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to impound funds appropriated by Congress and nearly every president since has done the same. In 1974, Congress passed a law requiring the president to petition Congress within 45 days of impounding such funds to rescind those funds. Since the third president of the US has ever claimed this action was unconstitutional and this ruling is a clear abuse of power by the judge and need not be obeyed.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That will be overturned by the Supreme Court.

The Justice Department will, hopefully, disregard this ruling and force a constitutional crisis on the issue of misbehavior by these rogue judges who abuse their power for political reasons.

 

[WEATHER53]

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That will be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Again. 80% have been

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, not really. A lot of illegals came here legally and their documentation expired. they didn't come here with the intent of breaking the law.

You don't know that. The second their Visa expires they are after that point here illegally.

You say shit like that all the time. But here's the thing, if a black person in the inner city would not have been given 43 days to surrender on their own.

They shot Tamir 1.3 seconds after getting out of the car. They didn't negotiate with him, they didn't reason with him, they didn't give him a chance to surrender.

Koresh was afforded every opportunity to surrender peacefully, and he chose mass suicide.

That's true, but the authorities could have done things more peacefully like wait until he left the compound to arrest him.

Maybe you should watch your news more often. Police always WAIT when they have a situation of innocents being harmed or killed even in the black community. To compare a suspect quickly pulling out a gun in front of a cop and this situation is like comparing jumping into a pool and jumping into Niagara Falls. You have two problems here: one is you're a self-hating white who brings race into everything, and two, you don't understand the difference between an immediate threat and a negotiation situation.

 

[WEATHER53]

When they start the perp walks I hopeTelemundo covers it

 

[Correll]

It's illegal to commit any crime, even if it's not a felony. Illegal entry makes them illegal aliens. If you sneak into someone's home you're not a guest, undocumented or otherwise. You are a criminal. You guys make 'undocumented' sound like nothing more than an insignificant piece of paper. No documents mean no permission, which means against federal law. It should be treated seriously.

If congress would clarify the birthright citizenship clause to deny citizenship for anchor babies, the problem would go away on it's own eventually.

Clementine, don't give up your day job to practice law. NOBODY is an illegal alien until convicted of being one in a court of law. Until then, they are an undocumented alien.

Another lefty who believes that reality is a function of perception.

Correll, the terms, "illegal alien", and "undocumented alien" are legal terms. i would not expect you to understand.

I understand that you lefties think that semantics define reality.


In reality if a person enters this country in violation of the law, they are a illegal alien. That they might not have been caught yet, does not change that.


If I illegally enter someone else's property, I am a trespasser, regardless of whether or not I have been caught.

...and if an attorney were to refer to a person on trial for illegal entry, as an "illegal alien", that person's attorney would object, and the judge would strike those words from the record, and tell the jury to disregard them. Does that make the judge a "lefty"?

This isn't a court of law, and lawyers are professional liars.

 

[Dr Grump]

I watched it happen as it happened. I know what was claimed and never proven, for example the Government claims the compound had fully automatic weapons yet never actually provided any to support the claim afterwards claiming they all burned up in the fire. The BATF claimed the Davidians were illegally purchasing firearms but what they don't tell you is that there were several FFL holders in the compound and to make the ignorant claim they were doing it illegally BATF canceled the the FFL of those people just before the raid and never told them. Every firearm at the compound was LEGALLY purchased. They claimed they were making grenades yet NOT a single grenade was provided after the raid to support the claim. It is perfectly legal to buy grenade bodies and to own black powder which the Davidians did. They made NO GRENADES out of them though. Not until late in the siege was any claim made about child molestation that was a red herring Janet Reno came up with to excuse the botched BATF raid and it was never verified or proven.

By the way, automatic weapons don't burn up in house fires.

I saw it as it happened too. Nothing you says doesn't negate my point. Prudent thing to do was surrender, take the Govt to court by suing them. He didn't do that. It's on him.

 

[Vandalshandle]

So, what you are saying is the the city fathers of sanctuary cities have broken a federal law for which they can not be criminally prosecuted, and for which they have never been civilly litigated.....(This is getting better and better!)

If you had been paying attention you would understand the individuals are not being held liable but the municipalities are.

Well, then. I am sure that you can provide links where municipalities have found to be in violation of federal law, and have been fined, just like the feds did with Sheriff Joe's illegal racial profiling, and fined Phoenix millions of dollars, right?

They are losing federal funding, remember?

TooMuch, you seem to have forgotten that Trump's EO cutting off federal funding to sanctuary cities was held to be unconstitutional by a federal court.

That court had no jurisdiction and the Justice Department will deny grants to such cities, anyway. Thomas Jefferson was the first president to impound funds appropriated by Congress and nearly every president since has done the same. In 1974, Congress passed a law requiring the president to petition Congress within 45 days of impounding such funds to rescind those funds. Since the third president of the US has ever claimed this action was unconstitutional and this ruling is a clear abuse of power by the judge and need not be obeyed.

Well, until that is overturned, you don't have much of a case, do you? Be sure to let me know when that happens...

 

[JoeB131]

Maybe you should watch your news more often. Police always WAIT when they have a situation of innocents being harmed or killed even in the black community. To compare a suspect quickly pulling out a gun in front of a cop and this situation is like comparing jumping into a pool and jumping into Niagara Falls. You have two problems here: one is you're a self-hating white who brings race into everything, and two, you don't understand the difference between an immediate threat and a negotiation situation.

1200 Americans killed at the hands of police every year...

I really do think that the Branch Molesterians having shot 4 ATF Agents was a more immediate threat than Tamir Rice having a toy gun under his jacket.

But Koresh was white, so it was an outrage to the right... even though the piece of shit killed himself and his followers.