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No, I'm not.You are assuming he actively shot it to release the round that killed the girl.
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No, I'm not.You are assuming he actively shot it to release the round that killed the girl.
One thing's for sure, he didn't have the muzzle oriented in a safe direction. Sounds like he had his head up his ass.The article doesn't give the details of exactly how the father was trying to unload the gun. You are assuming he actively shot it to release the round that killed the girl. He could very well have been trying to take the gun apart to get the round out and with his focus of attention on doing that, it went off.
Nobody knows until the investigation is completed, but as yet it's still considered a tragic accident
And are still mostly clueless, which says a lot about their average intelligence.
One thing's for sure, he didn't have the muzzle oriented in a safe direction. Sounds like he had his head up his ass.
Ask one of the 458 killed, or their family members, if "458 is peanuts."Are you out there trying to ban cigs? You know, those little tobacco sticks that kill 600,000 Americans every year?
458 is peanuts compared to SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND.
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States, including more than 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day. On average, smokers die 10 years earlier than nonsmokers.
sounded a little high.
There are a lot of things that cause more deaths than accidental gun discharges.
But a little training could stop a lot of accidental gun discharges.
It's low hanging fruit.
Just proof that sometimes it really is better to be lucky than good.Thats weird.
Everyone I know hunts and none of them have ever shot someone.
Ask one of the 458 killed, or their family members, if "458 is peanuts."
Please don't take my remark as acceptance of the caviler attitude toward gun safety as demonstrated by gun nuts.Hard for me to say this, but I do agree. Regardless of the circumstances and what he woulda, coulda, shoulda done is beside the point. I can not even imagine his grief and what he has to live with the rest of his life. Very heartbreaking
Yet I don't know of anyone who opposes common sense regulation of swimming pools.Ask the families of the 1000 children who drowned in swimming pools each year:
Drowning is the leading cause of accidental death for young children. Here's how to prevent it | CNN
More than 1,000 children die from drowning every year. And it can happen to vigilant parents in just seconds. Here are the many layers of protection to prevent your child from drowning.www.cnn.com
The family swimming pool and bathtub are killing at a far faster rate than accidental gun deaths.
Your deflection is noted. It is total nonsense, of course. As any thinking person would see, immediately.Ask the families of the 1000 children who drowned in swimming pools each year:
Drowning is the leading cause of accidental death for young children. Here's how to prevent it | CNN
More than 1,000 children die from drowning every year. And it can happen to vigilant parents in just seconds. Here are the many layers of protection to prevent your child from drowning.www.cnn.com
The family swimming pool and bathtub are killing at a far faster rate than accidental gun deaths.
Your deflection is noted. It is total nonsense, of course. As any thinking person would see, immediately.
No need to go further, it would be a waste of time.
What percentage of actual gun use resulted in accidental death?
People use guns for sport, hunting, target practice millions of times if not tens of millions of times annually.
in 2019 15,544,849 hunting licenses were issued in the USA
We can assume all of those people went hunting at least once that year.
How many people shot skeet, or participated in target shooting for fun or competition in the same year? I think 8 million is a low ball estimate.
So we can say with a high degree of confidence that in 2019 there were at least 15,544,849 plus 8 million instances of people using a gun in the United states.
so 458/23511849 =.0000195 or .00195% of gun uses in 2019 resulted in accidental death.
And in all probability my estimate of all uses of firearms annually is really low.
So yes if any other activity had a risk of death that was .00195% or less it would be praised to the heavens as being one of the safest activities known to man
In 2018, accidental gun deaths accounted for 1% (458) of total gun-related deaths (39,740) in the United States.
Accidental Gun Death Statistics | Aftermath Services
Accidental shootings are surprisingly common in the US examined in order to emphasize safety measures. Get the latest accidental gun death statistics here.www.aftermath.com
458 isn't trivial.
Aside from street thugs and criminals, some of the most irresponsible gun owners are hunters. I'm not knocking hunting, but the biggest portion of your average hunters aren't really gun people. They don't carry a weapon every day, many of them don't even own an AR-15 or an AK-47, and they don't shoot much. If they own a handgun for self-protection, it usually stays locked up, unloaded, or resides in a drawer.
They're what's known as in the gun culture as Fudds. Once a year they break out their bolt or lever-action rifle that belonged to their father/grandfather, put a couple rounds through it at the gun range, shoot a deer or two, then put their rifle away until next year. Most of them don't have a clue as to the proper maintenance, cleaning, and care of their rifles. Trust me, I've seen enough beat up old rusty guns at the public range. I've had to chew a few asses out for the way they don't observe where their muzzle is pointing. That's why I threw together a range in my back yard, so I don't have to be around those jokers.
This is a fallacious appeal to emotion; it does not change the fact that 458 accidemtal deaths comnpared to 423,000,000 million guns approaches statistical zero.Ask one of the 458 killed, or their family members, if "458 is peanuts."
Control yourself. I have no problem with people owning guns. I've owned three.This is a fallacious appeal to emotion; it does not change the fact that 458 accidemtal deaths comnpared to 423,000,000 million guns approaches statistical zero.
I have no pity for the father but the rest of the family I have sorrow for…I can't imagine anything more devastating than for a father to know he killed his own young daughter. Others will point out his stupid actions and lack of respect for gun safety rules, and he probably deserves all of that, but for right now, I can only pity him.