Texas Files Lawsuit at SCOTUS Against GA, PA, MI, and WI

[DrLove]

I have now figured out why Paxton the likely securities fraudster is filing a lawsuit that is DOA at SCOTUS. He wants a pardon for Rump and this is a great way to get his attention as a loyalist.

Appointed prosecutors who have been pursuing felony securities fraud charges against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton for five years are researching new allegations that Paxton committed crimes in office.​

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If Paxton gets charged with new crimes, the prosecutors would seek to revoke his bond.​

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Seven of the top executives in the Texas Office of the Attorney General have reported to a law enforcement agency that Paxton violated a law that prohibits improper influence, abuse of office, bribery and other potential crimes, the Austin American-Statesman reported on Oct. 3.​

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“We’re making contact with the individuals involved to determine what exactly happened and what evidence exists that suggests he was involved in misconduct,” said Kent Schaffer, one of the appointed prosecutors in Paxton’s pending case.​

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If Paxton does get charged with new criminal offenses, the prosecutors in his current felony case would file a motion to revoke Paxton’s bond, explained Schaffer, partner in Schaffer & Carter in Houston.​

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“When you’re under indictment in a felony case and you’re on bond, if you get a new violation, then your bond can be revoked and you can be held without bond,” he noted. “I’m not saying it’s going to happen. So far, we don’t have any evidence. He is not charged in a new case.”​

Texas AG Ken Paxton, on Bond for Securities Fraud Charges, Faces Jail if Charged With New Crimes | Texas Lawyer

Seven high-ranking lawyers in the Texas Office of the Attorney General have alleged that Ken Paxton committed crimes in office. If he's charged, prosecutors in Paxton's pending securities fraud case would seek to revoke his bond.

www.law.com

 

[Roudy]

Don’t Mess with Texas!
Texas Sues Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin for Unconstitutionally Changing Election Procedures
Texas goes directly to the Supreme Court, requesting the High Court to order these swing states with voting irregularities to allow their legislatures to appoint presidential electors.​

Don't Mess with Texas! Texas Sues Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin for Unconstitutionally Changing Election Procedures | The Stream
8 Dec 2020 ~~ By Al Perrotta
~[snip]~

Just before midnight, the State of Texas threw its massive weight into the election fraud fight. Texas sued Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin on the grounds their ad-hoc changes to election procedures were unconstitutional. And as a result, violated the rights of Texans and those in other states that followed the constitution. Don’t mess with Texas, indeed.
What’s more, Texas isn’t fiddling around with lower courts. They marched straight to the Supreme Court. And they are requesting the Supreme Court order the offending states to allow their legislatures to appoint their presidential electors.
Dodging State Legislatures Was Dodgy
Breitbart was the first major outlet with the story, and breaks down the argument the Lone Star State is making.

Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.​

In their lawsuit, Texas claims “certain officials in the Defendant States” presented the COVID pandemic “as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in balloting.” As streiff at RedState noted, “there’s no pandemic escape hatch in the constitution.”
~[snip]~
Going to the Supreme Court…a Long Shot, Perhaps
Texas approached the Supreme Court directly, Breitbart reports, “because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.”
Is the Supreme Court going to hear the case? Twitchy has collected the early reaction of legal types, and the consensus seems to be it’s a long shot the Supreme Court will hear the case, let alone rule in Texas’ favor. Several commentators note that the suit was filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, not the state’s solicitor general Kyle Hawkins, who would be the go-to person for suits like this.


Comment:
The Roberts court will either determine that it's none of Texas' business how other states do stuff or that the legistlatures were in session and aware of the changes and did not act, therefore they are implicitly the method determined by the legislature to be appropriate and so once again, buzz of Texas.
This case doesn’t require evidence, it hangs upon the law being changed illegally, before the election.
Every American voter in is being disenfranchised in this National Election by the States who were grossly negligent in their duties to conduct a free and fair election.
All States, who abided by their State Election Rules, should join with Texas and take the scoundrels to court.

Big Texas Dick slams down on the table.

Everybody else knows what's at stake:
https://tnm.me/news/tnm-news/major-announcement-texit-legislation-filed-for-next-legislative-session
This is a not-so-veiled threat.

The SCOTUS ordered a response.

The equivalent of a fly pattern at the end of the fourth quarter. You can tell from today's SCOTUS ruling that they're not going to step in this shit. I place the blame on Trump's campaign advisors, they should have seen this coming a mile away and preempted it. We had a seriously defective candidate in Joe Biden hiding in the basement..this was a concerted effort at stealing this election across many states, the Democrats had placed their foot soldiers in various Democrat run cities and states and were preparing or should I say conspiring for this fraud for over 6 months, including how to cover their tracks. You gotta hand it to them they basically carried out an "Ocean's 11" of US elections.

Half the country and half the people on this forum are hellbent on turning the U.S. into a fascist, Chinese-style, one-party, oligarchy controlled by the Democratic Party. It's hard to preserve a nation when half its populace want to destroy it.

Of course the leaders and elites are to blame. This has been going on for a long time on the Left. Brainwashed youth graduate from schools, where they are further indoctrinated in colleges dominated by like minded radical Leftists, and from there they move on to work in the media, as politicians, attorneys, etc. And every generation they get even more radicalized.

 

[Care4all]

Allowing citizens to vote by mail during a pandemic emergency is not fraud.

People calling it fraud are way off base.

Will the candidates in the primary using this method be invalidated, and special election winners be evicted, along with all the candidates in the Nov 3 election be invalidated?

After the citizens were told by their govt that it was legal and to vote that way?

I do not think so.

And if it did go to the legislature or house, wouldnt they be obligated on their electors chosen, to be the electors of the citizen's choice...who clearly did choose Biden, not Trump, but a technicality and not fraud by the citizens, is the complaint?

Why weren't the constitutionality complaints brought and settled during the primaries and before the Nov elections?

There is no way the SC would change and usurp the will of the people at this point.

Do you ever read the articles? Do any "Progressives" ever bother reading the attached articles?

Yeah, and is was one of the things the Texas case said was an irregularity or illegal.

The SC won't take the case is my bet, or take it for some time down the road, where the people's choice of Biden is not affected.

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

Texans voted, Texans appointed their electors. What another state does is none of their bee's wax, according to the constitution.... imo. The people of those 4 states chose Biden, by landslides in most of them....there is no ambiguity. The laws tweaked by the court rulings, truly matters naught...Biden, was chosen by their citizens to be our next president, in good faith.... they followed the election laws they were told were legal.

Your opinion isn't worth shit. So if another state approves slavery, that's none of your business? You realize that your fucking stupid, don't you?

There was no fraud that affected the results of the election.

The Texas etc lawsuit makes no mention of fraud?

 

[bripat9643]

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

You can apply equal protection when your state has been given affirmative action.

You have a state which gets 1.2 EC votes for every million citizens, arguing equal protection with a state which gets 1.8 EC votes for every million citizens.

You can't claim the Constitution is unconstitutional, moron.

 

[postman]

The new law passed by the Legislature is at the heart of the issues in PA. If you don't understand those you're just pissing in the wind.

"Consider the scenario in which it was used for the first time in a general election: during a public health crisis, with record voter turnout, and in a battleground state facing the ire of a president determined to undermine the voting process and spread misinformation.

Add to that, the very same process was used for the primary elections, without objection. And the only objection made, was because they lost.

 

[colfax_m]

Thus, the State of Texas has an interest in protecting its voters from such impact, especially one that violates the Electors Clause and very recent precedent surrounding its interpretation.

Fascinating. What impact did any of these states have on Texas's voters that it is seeking to protect them from?

You don't actually understand this argument, do you?

 

[bripat9643]

Allowing citizens to vote by mail during a pandemic emergency is not fraud.

People calling it fraud are way off base.

Will the candidates in the primary using this method be invalidated, and special election winners be evicted, along with all the candidates in the Nov 3 election be invalidated?

After the citizens were told by their govt that it was legal and to vote that way?

I do not think so.

And if it did go to the legislature or house, wouldnt they be obligated on their electors chosen, to be the electors of the citizen's choice...who clearly did choose Biden, not Trump, but a technicality and not fraud by the citizens, is the complaint?

Why weren't the constitutionality complaints brought and settled during the primaries and before the Nov elections?

There is no way the SC would change and usurp the will of the people at this point.

Do you ever read the articles? Do any "Progressives" ever bother reading the attached articles?

Yeah, and is was one of the things the Texas case said was an irregularity or illegal.

The SC won't take the case is my bet, or take it for some time down the road, where the people's choice of Biden is not affected.

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

Texans voted, Texans appointed their electors. What another state does is none of their bee's wax, according to the constitution.... imo. The people of those 4 states chose Biden, by landslides in most of them....there is no ambiguity. The laws tweaked by the court rulings, truly matters naught...Biden, was chosen by their citizens to be our next president, in good faith.... they followed the election laws they were told were legal.

Your opinion isn't worth shit. So if another state approves slavery, that's none of your business? You realize that your fucking stupid, don't you?

There was no fraud that affected the results of the election.

The Texas etc lawsuit makes no mention of fraud?

There most certainly was. That has been demonstrated over and over again.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Republican controlled legislature passed the bill.

So what?

Btw in MI it was the people who voted for Mail in ballots in 2018. By referendum. A power delegated to them, by guess who......

Again, so what? The bottom line is states can't make changes to their voting rules leading up to
an election without involving their legislatures.

 

[iceberg]

Allowing citizens to vote by mail during a pandemic emergency is not fraud.

People calling it fraud are way off base.

Will the candidates in the primary using this method be invalidated, and special election winners be evicted, along with all the candidates in the Nov 3 election be invalidated?

After the citizens were told by their govt that it was legal and to vote that way?

I do not think so.

And if it did go to the legislature or house, wouldnt they be obligated on their electors chosen, to be the electors of the citizen's choice...who clearly did choose Biden, not Trump, but a technicality and not fraud by the citizens, is the complaint?

Why weren't the constitutionality complaints brought and settled during the primaries and before the Nov elections?

There is no way the SC would change and usurp the will of the people at this point.

Do you ever read the articles? Do any "Progressives" ever bother reading the attached articles?

Yeah, and is was one of the things the Texas case said was an irregularity or illegal.

The SC won't take the case is my bet, or take it for some time down the road, where the people's choice of Biden is not affected.

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

Texans voted, Texans appointed their electors. What another state does is none of their bee's wax, according to the constitution.... imo. The people of those 4 states chose Biden, by landslides in most of them....there is no ambiguity. The laws tweaked by the court rulings, truly matters naught...Biden, was chosen by their citizens to be our next president, in good faith.... they followed the election laws they were told were legal.

Your opinion isn't worth shit. So if another state approves slavery, that's none of your business? You realize that your fucking stupid, don't you?

There was no fraud that affected the results of the election.

The Texas etc lawsuit makes no mention of fraud?

well if this is as billed, THE MOST SECURE ELECTION EVA, then how could there have been any fraud at all?

man you just say shit without even seeing how they fit together.

 

[Roudy]

Tramp is a loser , he will go down as the worst Potus in the US.

Obama will go down as one of the best.

Or....Obama was so catastrophic for this country, that Trump got elected. Ever thought about that? He's just a reaction to the disastrous Obama presidency.

 

[iceberg]

Thus, the State of Texas has an interest in protecting its voters from such impact, especially one that violates the Electors Clause and very recent precedent surrounding its interpretation.

Fascinating. What impact did any of these states have on Texas's voters that it is seeking to protect them from?

You don't actually understand this argument, do you?

this coming from someone who can't point out how these states followed their own constitutional laws.

check mate son. tired of this ball of yarn in front of the kitty game with you. you failed miserably to state a single fact around the case, just spout shit and keep diverting.

as usual.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Appointed prosecutors who have been pursuing felony securities fraud charges against Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton for five years are researching new allegations that Paxton committed crimes in office.

AKA grasping at straws.

I know the judge who appointed the retired sitting judge on that case (name is Mark Rusch). The way he described the situation to me is that some asshole found some obscure securities technicality and is using it for political purposes. There's a reason this case has taken 5 years.

Now, take this nonsense the fuck outta here. It will never go to trial. I will likely be dismissed.

 

[DrLove]

Paxton is securities fraudster about to get his bond revoked.
He is fishing for a pardon from the Dotard. Just posted over in the other thread:

Texas Files Lawsuit at SCOTUS Against GA, PA, MI, and WI

Add Missouri to the list @Eric_Schmitt · 1h Election integrity is central to our republic. And I will defend it at every turn. As I have in other cases - I will help lead the effort in support of Texas’ #SCOTUS filing today. Missouri is in the fight.

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[postman]

The impact of votes cast in each State is affected by the votes cast for the various candidate in other States. See also the Mass. v. EPA case on standing.

Thus, the State of Texas has an interest in protecting its voters from such impact, especially one that violates the Electors Clause and very recent precedent surrounding its interpretation.

Now, what the fuck is your bullshit response?

Actually see the latest decisions from the 9th and 4th circuits on "equal protection" where they are arguing whether Bush V Gore is controlling, since the USSC said it was valid only for the unique facts of the case presented.

There was a suit which sought to correct the unequal protections of the several different voting systems, each with different error rates. One suffered 2.5% under recording, while another had less than 1%. This surely disenfranchised the county suffering 2.5% undervote.

But the courts ruled, overturned and finally settled on there being no equal protection right, because there was no constitutional remedy at law.

 

[bripat9643]

the lawsuit is about these states not following their outlined constitutional process. the electors is a remedy.

now - you keep avoiding this part of the convo and running away like a little schoolgirl -

show me where these states followed their own documented process to make the changes they did in fact make.

You're referring to their constitutional process for deciding electors. So yeah, this is essential to the court case.

They didn't follow their "constitutional process," numskull.

 

[Care4all]

Allowing citizens to vote by mail during a pandemic emergency is not fraud.

People calling it fraud are way off base.

Will the candidates in the primary using this method be invalidated, and special election winners be evicted, along with all the candidates in the Nov 3 election be invalidated?

After the citizens were told by their govt that it was legal and to vote that way?

I do not think so.

And if it did go to the legislature or house, wouldnt they be obligated on their electors chosen, to be the electors of the citizen's choice...who clearly did choose Biden, not Trump, but a technicality and not fraud by the citizens, is the complaint?

Why weren't the constitutionality complaints brought and settled during the primaries and before the Nov elections?

There is no way the SC would change and usurp the will of the people at this point.

Do you ever read the articles? Do any "Progressives" ever bother reading the attached articles?

Yeah, and is was one of the things the Texas case said was an irregularity or illegal.

The SC won't take the case is my bet, or take it for some time down the road, where the people's choice of Biden is not affected.

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

Texans voted, Texans appointed their electors. What another state does is none of their bee's wax, according to the constitution.... imo. The people of those 4 states chose Biden, by landslides in most of them....there is no ambiguity. The laws tweaked by the court rulings, truly matters naught...Biden, was chosen by their citizens to be our next president, in good faith.... they followed the election laws they were told were legal.

Your opinion isn't worth shit. So if another state approves slavery, that's none of your business? You realize that your fucking stupid, don't you?

There was no fraud that affected the results of the election.

The Texas etc lawsuit makes no mention of fraud?

well if this is as billed, THE MOST SECURE ELECTION EVA, then how could there have been any fraud at all?

man you just say shit without even seeing how they fit together.

Because every election has some individual fraud...NOT conspired fraud. My statement fits perfectly, with reality.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Electors Clause requires States to appoint their electors pursuant to state LEGISLATIVE action. If a State fails to do so via its legislature, that is a violation of the EC. Because the EC is, in essence, States voting for the POTUS and VP, one State is affected by another's failure to follow the proper process, just like an individual voter is affected when another votes illegally.

Standing is obvious. This argument that Texas has no standing is straight up BULLSHIT, unless somebody can show me legal authority otherwise.

This is a dispute between States over the violation of Constitutional Law, which the SCOTUS has Original and Exclusive Jurisdiction.

Next?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

the lawsuit is about these states not following their outlined constitutional process. the electors is a remedy.

now - you keep avoiding this part of the convo and running away like a little schoolgirl -

show me where these states followed their own documented process to make the changes they did in fact make.

You're referring to their constitutional process for deciding electors. So yeah, this is essential to the court case.

They didn't follow their "constitutional process," numskull.

And that alone gets this matter before the SCOTUS in Original and Exclusive Jurisdiction, where all others may join, and all issues can be heard at once.

 

[iceberg]

Allowing citizens to vote by mail during a pandemic emergency is not fraud.

People calling it fraud are way off base.

Will the candidates in the primary using this method be invalidated, and special election winners be evicted, along with all the candidates in the Nov 3 election be invalidated?

After the citizens were told by their govt that it was legal and to vote that way?

I do not think so.

And if it did go to the legislature or house, wouldnt they be obligated on their electors chosen, to be the electors of the citizen's choice...who clearly did choose Biden, not Trump, but a technicality and not fraud by the citizens, is the complaint?

Why weren't the constitutionality complaints brought and settled during the primaries and before the Nov elections?

There is no way the SC would change and usurp the will of the people at this point.

Do you ever read the articles? Do any "Progressives" ever bother reading the attached articles?

Yeah, and is was one of the things the Texas case said was an irregularity or illegal.

The SC won't take the case is my bet, or take it for some time down the road, where the people's choice of Biden is not affected.

The states are not hurt by how the other states run their elections. They have no standing.

Yes, they are. I sure as hell was hurt by fraud being used to get Biden elected.

Texans voted, Texans appointed their electors. What another state does is none of their bee's wax, according to the constitution.... imo. The people of those 4 states chose Biden, by landslides in most of them....there is no ambiguity. The laws tweaked by the court rulings, truly matters naught...Biden, was chosen by their citizens to be our next president, in good faith.... they followed the election laws they were told were legal.

Your opinion isn't worth shit. So if another state approves slavery, that's none of your business? You realize that your fucking stupid, don't you?

There was no fraud that affected the results of the election.

The Texas etc lawsuit makes no mention of fraud?

well if this is as billed, THE MOST SECURE ELECTION EVA, then how could there have been any fraud at all?

man you just say shit without even seeing how they fit together.

Because every election has some individual fraud...NOT conspired fraud. My statement fits perfectly, with reality.

oh i think it's pretty fair to say you don't have much to do with reality.

 

[colfax_m]

this coming from someone who can't point out how these states followed their own constitutional laws.

check mate son. tired of this ball of yarn in front of the kitty game with you. you failed miserably to state a single fact around the case, just spout shit and keep diverting.

as usual.

You're putting the cart in front of the horse. We can worry about the merits of the case after we demonstrate that the case is able to be brought at all.