Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[ChrisL]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

 

[Faun]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

 

[Faun]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

If anyone was lying, it was her piece of crap husband, IMO.

 

[Faun]

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

 

[Faun]

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

If anyone was lying, it was her piece of crap husband, IMO.

Even if he was, it was still up to him to choose for Terri.

And you didn't answer ... how long would you want to be kept alive in that condition?

 

[ChrisL]

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

If anyone was lying, it was her piece of crap husband, IMO.

Even if he was, it was still up to him to choose for Terri.

And you didn't answer ... how long would you want to be kept alive in that condition?

I couldn't say. I have no idea. I don't think that is always appropriate to let the husband decide, especially in the given situation.

 

[ChrisL]

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

Of course there is! Doctors cannot lie about a patient's condition. That goes against their oath.

 

[Faun]

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

Oh, I almost forgot .... Bill Frist even lied about her condition. Without ever even examining her, he declared she did not appear to be in a PVS to him. So yeah, people lie to support their position -- even doctors.

 

[ChrisL]

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

Oh, I almost forgot .... Bill Frist even lied about her condition. Without ever even examining her, he declared she did not appear to be in a PVS to him. So yeah, people lie to support their position -- even doctors.

That is because she was awake and interacting. People who are "brain dead" don't do that. Sorry.

 

[Faun]

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

Of course there is! Doctors cannot lie about a patient's condition. That goes against their oath.

First of all, there's nothing in the Hippocratic oath about lying. But even if there was, the oath is not legally binding and no [legal] consequences stem from violating it. That's not to say there aren't legal risks for other malpractices which may or may not break their oath, but that would be an appearance of coincidence and due to the malpractice violation, not breaking the Hippocratic oath.

And as it happened, the Schindlers' physicians lied about her condition, which was ultimately proven she truly was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state, and no consequences befell them. Most notibly, because a diagnosis to some degree, is based on opinion. But such opinions can be bought, as the Schindler's did.

 

[ChrisL]

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

Of course there is! Doctors cannot lie about a patient's condition. That goes against their oath.

First of all, there's nothing in the Hippocratic oath about lying. But even if there was, the oath is not legally binding and no [legal] consequences stem from violating it. That's not to say there aren't legal risks for other malpractices which may or may not break their oath, but that would be an appearance of coincidence and due to the malpractice violation, not breaking the Hippocratic oath.

And as it happened, the Schindlers' physicians lied about her condition, which was ultimately proven she truly was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state, and no consequences befell them. Most notibly, because a diagnosis to some degree, is based on opinion. But such opinions can be bought, as the Schindler's did.

yes, your premise is ridiculous that the physicians would risk their careers and reputations to lie about a patient's condition, but I'm sure you know that already.

 

[ChrisL]

^^^

And a VERY serious accusation with no evidence to back it up.

 

[Faun]

It was about Terri, not her parents. It was not right to keep her alive in that condition just because her parents weren't prepared to let her go.

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

Oh, I almost forgot .... Bill Frist even lied about her condition. Without ever even examining her, he declared she did not appear to be in a PVS to him. So yeah, people lie to support their position -- even doctors.

That is because she was awake and interacting. People who are "brain dead" don't do that. Sorry.

You just lost the argument. You clearly don't understand the difference between being "brain dead" with being in a "persistent vegitative state."

Oh, well.

 

[Faun]

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

Of course there is! Doctors cannot lie about a patient's condition. That goes against their oath.

First of all, there's nothing in the Hippocratic oath about lying. But even if there was, the oath is not legally binding and no [legal] consequences stem from violating it. That's not to say there aren't legal risks for other malpractices which may or may not break their oath, but that would be an appearance of coincidence and due to the malpractice violation, not breaking the Hippocratic oath.

And as it happened, the Schindlers' physicians lied about her condition, which was ultimately proven she truly was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state, and no consequences befell them. Most notibly, because a diagnosis to some degree, is based on opinion. But such opinions can be bought, as the Schindler's did.

yes, your premise is ridiculous that the physicians would risk their careers and reputations to lie about a patient's condition, but I'm sure you know that already.

As pointed out, there was no risk. Hell, you couldn't even defend your idiocy other than to mindlessly repeat it.

You demonstrate ignorance on that matter on par with your ignorance of PVS.

 

[ChrisL]

So? What is wrong with letting them take her home and care for her until she died? She did not have a living will that specified her own wishes. Although she was said to be "brain dead," others reported her as being somewhat cognizant at times.

The reports of her being cognizant were from doctors willing to lie for the Schindler's. The state's selected physician declared her in a PVS. And again, since you didn't answer ... why keep her alive in that condition? It wasn't about her parents. It wasn't about their needs or inability to let go. It was about Terri. How long would you want someone to keep you in that condition?

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

Oh, I almost forgot .... Bill Frist even lied about her condition. Without ever even examining her, he declared she did not appear to be in a PVS to him. So yeah, people lie to support their position -- even doctors.

That is because she was awake and interacting. People who are "brain dead" don't do that. Sorry.

You just lost the argument. You clearly don't understand the difference between being "brain dead" with being in a "persistent vegitative state."

Oh, well.

People who are "vegetables" don't respond. Brain dead means NO brain activity. That means you cannot breathe, eat, or respond on your own. She was not on a ventilator. She was breathing on her own. She was awake and reportedly cognizant. That would be more like severe brain damage than brain death. You don't wake up from brain death. You are pretty much literally dead.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh please. Lol. I don't think the doctors would lie about a patient's medical condition and risk their entire livelihoods and careers. That is just . . . ridiculous.

And yet, there was no risk to either. So much for your strawman.

Of course there is! Doctors cannot lie about a patient's condition. That goes against their oath.

First of all, there's nothing in the Hippocratic oath about lying. But even if there was, the oath is not legally binding and no [legal] consequences stem from violating it. That's not to say there aren't legal risks for other malpractices which may or may not break their oath, but that would be an appearance of coincidence and due to the malpractice violation, not breaking the Hippocratic oath.

And as it happened, the Schindlers' physicians lied about her condition, which was ultimately proven she truly was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state, and no consequences befell them. Most notibly, because a diagnosis to some degree, is based on opinion. But such opinions can be bought, as the Schindler's did.

yes, your premise is ridiculous that the physicians would risk their careers and reputations to lie about a patient's condition, but I'm sure you know that already.

As pointed out, there was no risk. Hell, you couldn't even defend your idiocy other than to mindlessly repeat it.

You demonstrate ignorance on that matter on par with your ignorance of PVS.

I think you are the one losing the argument. That is why you are getting so upset and resorting to insults instead of defending your position.

 

[Dana7360]

Well, I think the husband is a jerk. He did not HAVE to kill her. That was completely unnecessary.

What was the point? She was in an irreversible persistent vegetative state?

Her parents loved her and wanted to care for her. THAT is the point. Obviously, her husband had stopped loving her a long time ago. A parent's love is unconditional.

Children don't exist to make their parents happy.

Children are the future of our nation and they have their own lives. They have their own destiny to live out and no parent should keep their child just for the parent's own pleasure.

Terri was her own person and her parents had no right to step in and take her rights as a separate person away from her.

No good parent wants their child to exist with a liquified brain and no eyesight. A good parent would put their child's needs before the parents own selfish wants. A good parent would want what's best for their child. Not want their child to exist to make the parents happy.

Happiness is found within a person.

I laid in a coma for a time in my life due to an accident. If I was in a perpetual vegetative state, I would want it stopped. My parents would have wanted the same thing.

The only reason Terri's body survived that long was modern medicine. If feeding tubes didn't exist, Terri would have been laid to rest years before 2005.