Tenth Anniversary

[LA RAM FAN]

What do the "experienced pilots" say?

the majority of these people here are high creditial pilots and NONE of them say that was an airliner that crashed into the pentagon.Pilots For Truth List Of Members

for one thing they say the hole in the pentagon is far too small to be that of an airliner,the wreckage is fake as well, the engine they showed is way too small to be that of an airliner.Does not take a genius to see they are telling the truth,wheres the damage of the wings,wheres the huge craters of damage to the ground that you see when an airliner crashes,wheres the luggage? wheres the seats? the damage done and wreackage is not consistant with an airliner crash.

the trolls cant answer ANY of these questions. the official version of the government is that it EVAPORATED before it hit the ground. that explanation may work for a movie but it doesnt work in the real world as these experinced pilots will tell you. Im not pilot but someone would have to be on drugs to swallow that explanation ESPECIALLY since these pilots say their explantion is B.S

of course the OCTA'S will swallow it hook,line and sinker since the truth scares them.

Wow! Your stupid goes all the way to the bone.

nice rebuttal there genius,great way to counter those facts. you should start a comedy club.You are about as hysterical as wicked retard with your rebuttals.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Tell ya what. You stated that you have debunked all of this many times.

Show me ONE post where you have with anything other than the 9/11 commission report.

Copy/paste it right here ----> <------

Don't have too....Just go to all the conpiracy threads and you'll see all the examples you need.

Dodge!

Keep that up and you'll make employee of the month. So, you try to debunk all conspiracy's? Sounds like a shill to me.

Unlike you I have a life and am logging off for the night.

Goodnight straw man.

His dodges are hysterical. He evades the facts by instead of addressing facts and evidence we bring up,he asks questions that have nothing to do with your facts you bring up. great way to debate. I love how the OCTA'S try and debate.they come on and say that post of mine makes me an idiot without even addressing whats wrong with it or WHY that post is wrong.classic i love it.

they have no debating skills whatseover.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Gee, does "screw loose change" destroy your claims that badly?

screwloose change is an abortion...it is often in direct conflict with the offical story and for ever claim they supposedly debwunk in the film 5 other major points will go unadressed...looosechange was a film made by very young and inexperienced men and is not all that relevant in the big picture any more

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

exactly.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It is astonishing that those who hold themselves up as the greatest patriots (those on the extreme right, also now know as Republicans) are afraid to respond to this with anything close to rational arguments.

Look, I suspect the Bush/Cheney Administration, but it is entirely possible that rougue elements within the government were operating without their (Bush Admin)knowledge. What is not possible is that Building 7collapsed soley as a result of an office fire. The point is that the only way to find out is with a new investigation conducted by any independent invetigator armed with subpoena power

Now you know how the OCTA'S operate around here.they avoid your facts and evidence you present to them and dont even try to address them.they just go off and call you names and ask questions of their own which have nothing to do with your points you make, then run off and leave.great way to debate.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

There is zero physical evidence that there were any controlled demolitions at the WTC complex on 9-11-01.

There is zero audio evidence.

There is zero video evidence.

Unless you've got something the world has never seen or heard before..........

Funniest thing is, there is not one witness who worked in that building who has EVER come forward saying that they witnessed any demolition experts rigging the building to explode at anytime.........It takes days to rig a building for demolition. Parts of the building would have had to have been dismantled. It would have been painfully obvious that the building was being prepped for demolition, and NOT ONE WITNESS HAS EVER COME FORWARD.

These loon's are out of their friggin' minds.

If you are so sure why not have a real investigation by an independent investigator armed with subpoena power. You keep repeating that there is no evidence but the evidence is recorded on video... a steel frame building (Building 7) collapsed into it's own footprint and it was caused by something other than controlled demolition (supposedly) for the first time in history.

Why are you afraid of an investigation? Afraid of what we might find out?

welcome to the way Gomer Pyle and wicked debate. they always say that,there is zero evidence without even trying to address your points and facts you bring up as your finding out.Gomer and wicked are a waste of time as they have proved in spades.go on to someone else.except daws.He is even a much bigger troll than those two.wicked is afraid of government corruption so he only reads the posts of his fellow official conspiracy theory apologists.always evade points you bring up that doesnt go along with his version of events.typical of how the OCTA'S debate around here.

 

[Wicked Jester]

There is zero physical evidence that there were any controlled demolitions at the WTC complex on 9-11-01.

There is zero audio evidence.

There is zero video evidence.

Unless you've got something the world has never seen or heard before..........

Funniest thing is, there is not one witness who worked in that building who has EVER come forward saying that they witnessed any demolition experts rigging the building to explode at anytime.........It takes days to rig a building for demolition. Parts of the building would have had to have been dismantled. It would have been painfully obvious that the building was being prepped for demolition, and NOT ONE WITNESS HAS EVER COME FORWARD.

These loon's are out of their friggin' minds.

If you are so sure why not have a real investigation by an independent investigator armed with subpoena power. You keep repeating that there is no evidence but the evidence is recorded on video... a steel frame building (Building 7) collapsed into it's own footprint and it was caused by something other than controlled demolition (supposedly) for the first time in history.

Why are you afraid of an investigation? Afraid of what we might find out?

There was an investigation......It's over. The facts have been proven, and it's time you idiots stop shitting on the memories of all those who died that day......Knock off your loony, paranoid BS, and move on with your pathetic lives.

Btw, are you a Ron Paul supporter?......Just curious.

Oh, and here's some more facts for ya' to suck on:
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8[/ame]
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRSr1MnFuk[/ame]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Same ole movies that yes i have seen before. Your own supposed demolitions expert tells you why it wasn't a controlled demolition. You have to remove the elevator cars. You have to weaken the building.... This is one of your experts telling you these things.... It simply didn't happen...............

Two questions for you.

1. Do you believe in the sanctity of life?

2. How do you dismiss the families and survivors of 9/11 who are calling for a new investigation?

It's easy to dismiss those families and survivors, because there was no government conspiracy.........I have no problem in dismissing them, while still fealing sorry for what they went through.

Ya' see, you conspiracy clowns just can't believe one can dismiss, without you clowns playing the, "but you must hatin' on the families and survivors" card.......It's a bunch of cowardly hogwash on your parts.

And, why in the fuck do you clowns keep shitting all over the memories of those who died, while at the same time shitting all over those who are serving, or have died while serving in the fight against the likes of those dirtbags who pulled off the attack?

You people are disgusting.

the asswipes that keep shitting all over the 9/11 familys and the ones serving are you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologist trolls who are afraid of the truth.

You OCTA'S should be shot for being such a coward so afraid of the truth that you wont look at the evidence and facts and only see what you WANT to see..you OCTA'S are disgusting creatures shitting on them like you dh I know the truth hurts.poor baby.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Two questions for you.

1. Do you believe in the sanctity of life?

2. How do you dismiss the families and survivors of 9/11 who are calling for a new investigation?

It's easy to dismiss those families and survivors, because there was no government conspiracy.........I have no problem in dismissing them, while still fealing sorry for what they went through.

Ya' see, you conspiracy clowns just can't believe one can dismiss, without you clowns playing the, "but you must hatin' on the families and survivors" card.......It's a bunch of cowardly hogwash on your parts.

And, why in the fuck do you clowns keep shitting all over the memories of those who died, while at the same time shitting all over those who are serving, or have died while serving in the fight against the likes of those dirtbags who pulled off the attack?

You people are disgusting.

the asswipes that keep shitting all over the 9/11 familys and the ones serving are you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologist trolls who are afraid of the truth.

You OCTA'S should be shot for being such a coward so afraid of the truth that you wont look at the evidence and facts and only see what you WANT to see..you OCTA'S are disgusting creatures shitting on them like you dh I know the truth hurts.poor baby.

Well, that was weak and pussy like.

Get a fuckin' life........Get out of mommy's basement, get your hand off your dick, clean yourself up, and get a damn life........Get a damn girlfriend for once.

And quit shitting all over the memories of those who died that day with your loony bullshit.

You people are disgusting.

 

[saveliberty]

the asswipes that keep shitting all over the 9/11 familys and the ones serving are you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologist trolls who are afraid of the truth.

You OCTA'S should be shot for being such a coward so afraid of the truth that you wont look at the evidence and facts and only see what you WANT to see..you OCTA'S are disgusting creatures shitting on them like you dh I know the truth hurts.poor baby.

I accept the truth, you seem bent on making these poor people relive a painful memory for no benefit to anyone, but self aggrandizement.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I don't know what percentage of Architect and Engineers are represented by the over one thousand (by the way, it's up to over 1500 now!) but each one is a Professional with a reputaion to protect.
For people like you who are too vested in the mythology of the 911 attack, even if 100% of all Architects and Engineers said they doubted the official story, you would still believe.

Vested in the mythology....... Really? Truth is I have a few disagreements with what the official investigations said. And I have listened to way too many versions of alternate conspiracy theories. Fact is that the official investigations hit all the main points right on. Sorry but there is still no evidence of any controlled demolitions......

You've got disagreements? Would one of them be that no one was put under oath during the 911 hearings? When a disaster is blamed on an occurence that has never happened before would you consider that to be evidence of something? I would and anybody who understands the scientific method would also.

Again, no steel frame building has ever collapsed into it's own footprint by any cause other than controlled demolition. That is evidence, so the question is why would you not want a real investigation?

There was a real investigation. Several of them actually. There was the 911CR, The NIST reports, And of course PENTTBOM.

Naturally you don't like any of them.........

 

[SFC Ollie]

Two questions for you.

1. Do you believe in the sanctity of life?

2. How do you dismiss the families and survivors of 9/11 who are calling for a new investigation?

It's easy to dismiss those families and survivors, because there was no government conspiracy.........I have no problem in dismissing them, while still fealing sorry for what they went through.

Ya' see, you conspiracy clowns just can't believe one can dismiss, without you clowns playing the, "but you must hatin' on the families and survivors" card.......It's a bunch of cowardly hogwash on your parts.

And, why in the fuck do you clowns keep shitting all over the memories of those who died, while at the same time shitting all over those who are serving, or have died while serving in the fight against the likes of those dirtbags who pulled off the attack?

You people are disgusting.

the asswipes that keep shitting all over the 9/11 familys and the ones serving are you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologist trolls who are afraid of the truth.

You OCTA'S should be shot for being such a coward so afraid of the truth that you wont look at the evidence and facts and only see what you WANT to see..you OCTA'S are disgusting creatures shitting on them like you dh I know the truth hurts.poor baby.

Should be shot? Coward? Come on and try this coward any time dumb ass.
We know who the fools and cowards are. Why is it you have your rep turned off again? Afraid to show your pretty red stars?

You have never presented an item of proof to disclaim anything that hasn't been debunked a hundred times, Yet you are too stupid to admit it. Don't you understand that we only come back in here to fuck with you idiots. besides you might actually come up with something new, doubtful but anything is possible.

 

[daws101]

There is zero physical evidence that there were any controlled demolitions at the WTC complex on 9-11-01.

There is zero audio evidence.

There is zero video evidence.

Unless you've got something the world has never seen or heard before..........

Funniest thing is, there is not one witness who worked in that building who has EVER come forward saying that they witnessed any demolition experts rigging the building to explode at anytime.........It takes days to rig a building for demolition. Parts of the building would have had to have been dismantled. It would have been painfully obvious that the building was being prepped for demolition, and NOT ONE WITNESS HAS EVER COME FORWARD.

These loon's are out of their friggin' minds.

If you are so sure why not have a real investigation by an independent investigator armed with subpoena power. You keep repeating that there is no evidence but the evidence is recorded on video... a steel frame building (Building 7) collapsed into it's own footprint and it was caused by something other than controlled demolition (supposedly) for the first time in history.

Why are you afraid of an investigation? Afraid of what we might find out?

I've said this a million times buy you guys never get it to have an independent:a (1) : not subject to control by others : self-governing (2) : not affiliated with a larger controlling unit <an independent bookstore> b (1) : not requiring or relying on something else : not contingent <an independent conclusion> (2) : not looking to others for one's opinions or for guidance in conduct (3) : not bound by or committed to a political party c (1) : not requiring or relying on others (as for care or livelihood) <independent of her parents> (2) : being enough to free one from the necessity of working for a living <a person of independent means> d : showing a desire for freedom <an independent manner> e (1) : not determined by or capable of being deduced or derived from or expressed in terms of members (as axioms or equations) of the set under consideration; especially : having linear independence <an independent set of vectors> (2) : having the property that the joint probability (as of events or samples) or the joint probability density function (as of random variables) equals the product of the probabilities or probability density functions of separate occurrence
2capitalized : of or relating to the Independents
3a : main 5 <an independent clause> b : neither deducible from nor incompatible with another statement <independent postulates>
— in·de·pen·dent·ly adverb
See independent defined for English-language learners »
See independent defined for kids »
Examples of INDEPENDENT
The country recently became independent.
They have a good deal of independent authority.
She has an independent income.
Another laboratory has provided independent confirmation of the test results.
investigation, you guys or the government guys could not participate in the investigation
to avoid bias. all evidence would have to be checked for credibility and validity..
you might want watch what you wish for.

 

[Obamerican]

Two questions for you.

1. Do you believe in the sanctity of life?

2. How do you dismiss the families and survivors of 9/11 who are calling for a new investigation?

It's easy to dismiss those families and survivors, because there was no government conspiracy.........I have no problem in dismissing them, while still fealing sorry for what they went through.

Ya' see, you conspiracy clowns just can't believe one can dismiss, without you clowns playing the, "but you must hatin' on the families and survivors" card.......It's a bunch of cowardly hogwash on your parts.

And, why in the fuck do you clowns keep shitting all over the memories of those who died, while at the same time shitting all over those who are serving, or have died while serving in the fight against the likes of those dirtbags who pulled off the attack?

You people are disgusting.

the asswipes that keep shitting all over the 9/11 familys and the ones serving are you 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologist trolls who are afraid of the truth. It's spelled "families" you stupid fuck.

You OCTA'S should be shot for being such a coward so afraid of the truth that you wont look at the evidence and facts and only see what you WANT to see..you OCTA'S are disgusting creatures shitting on them like you dh I know the truth hurts.poor baby.

"Should be shot?" From who? Stupid ***** like you?

Go fuck yourself, Rimjob.

 

[eots]

Funniest thing is, there is not one witness who worked in that building who has EVER come forward saying that they witnessed any demolition experts rigging the building to explode at anytime.........It takes days to rig a building for demolition. Parts of the building would have had to have been dismantled. It would have been painfully obvious that the building was being prepped for demolition, and NOT ONE WITNESS HAS EVER COME FORWARD.

These loon's are out of their friggin' minds.

If you are so sure why not have a real investigation by an independent investigator armed with subpoena power. You keep repeating that there is no evidence but the evidence is recorded on video... a steel frame building (Building 7) collapsed into it's own footprint and it was caused by something other than controlled demolition (supposedly) for the first time in history.

Why are you afraid of an investigation? Afraid of what we might find out?

There was an investigation......It's over. The facts have been proven, and it's time you idiots stop shitting on the memories of all those who died that day......Knock off your loony, paranoid BS, and move on with your pathetic lives.

Btw, are you a Ron Paul supporter?......Just curious.

Oh, and here's some more facts for ya' to suck on:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kSq663m0G8]9/11 Debunked: WTC 7's Collapse Explained - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRSr1MnFuk]9/11 Debunked: The "First Time in History" Claim - YouTube[/ame]

both of your disinformation videos are in direct contradiction to the NIST final report ...debwunker

 

[wihosa]

All the righties on this site naturally reject any suggestion that the Bush Admin. were so corrupt as to do this most evil of deeds. I also rejected the idea at first, I didn't want to believe it either.

The fact is , regardless of a four story building which collapsed do to fire, we're talking about a modern 47 story steel frame structure suddenly collapsing to the ground. Nothing like that has ever happened, and if a simple office fire could cause Building 7 to collapse like that then every other steel frame office tower in the world is at risk of the same thing.

Obviously this argument could go on for ever, except that this can't be kept quiet, more and more people are relizing that this was no accident.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

All the righties on this site naturally reject any suggestion that the Bush Admin. were so corrupt as to do this most evil of deeds. I also rejected the idea at first, I didn't want to believe it either.

The fact is , regardless of a four story building which collapsed do to fire, we're talking about a modern 47 story steel frame structure suddenly collapsing to the ground. Nothing like that has ever happened, and if a simple office fire could cause Building 7 to collapse like that then every other steel frame office tower in the world is at risk of the same thing.

Obviously this argument could go on for ever, except that this can't be kept quiet, more and more people are relizing that this was no accident.

Every steel framed building with long span trusses IS at risk of the same thing. Just look at what happened to McCormick Place in Chicago back in 1967.

 

[Wicked Jester]

All the righties on this site naturally reject any suggestion that the Bush Admin. were so corrupt as to do this most evil of deeds. I also rejected the idea at first, I didn't want to believe it either.

The fact is , regardless of a four story building which collapsed do to fire, we're talking about a modern 47 story steel frame structure suddenly collapsing to the ground. Nothing like that has ever happened, and if a simple office fire could cause Building 7 to collapse like that then every other steel frame office tower in the world is at risk of the same thing.

Obviously this argument could go on for ever, except that this can't be kept quiet, more and more people are relizing that this was no accident.

LMAO!

The building "SUDDENLY" collapsed to the ground?........No it didn't. It took hours to fall, after having a bigger buildings debris take out 1/3 of it, and then fires further weakening the structure.

Simple office fire?........Really?......You're going to go with that ridiculous claim?

And, please tell us where the evidence is of a controlled demolition......Where's the det cords?....The explosive charges?........Explosive residue?.........All of it would have had to have been present after the collapse......Experts would have had to have perused every inch of debris to ensure no unexploded explosives were in the debris while it was being collected.......Not one bit of evidence, or witness to say that was what was being done.

And, where are the witnesses to the days it would have taken to prep the building for demo?.........Where are they to state they saw the building being prepped for demo?......Where are they to say that the necessary sections of the building that would have had to have been removed, were removed.......Where are they to say they witnessed all the holes being drilled for placement of the explosives?

Not one witness.......In almost TEN YEARS, you people can't come up with the physical evidence of a controlled demolition, or any witnesses to verify a controlled demo was being prepped, when it would have taken days to prep it.......NOT ONE WITNESS.....NOT ANYTHING!

 

[Unkotare]

If it smells like I'm talking conspiracy here, let me assure you, I AM!.

Then you're a fucking idiot. Shut up and go away.

 

[saveliberty]

All the righties on this site naturally reject any suggestion that the Bush Admin. were so corrupt as to do this most evil of deeds. I also rejected the idea at first, I didn't want to believe it either.

The fact is , regardless of a four story building which collapsed do to fire, we're talking about a modern 47 story steel frame structure suddenly collapsing to the ground. Nothing like that has ever happened, and if a simple office fire could cause Building 7 to collapse like that then every other steel frame office tower in the world is at risk of the same thing.

Obviously this argument could go on for ever, except that this can't be kept quiet, more and more people are relizing that this was no accident.

It was a jetliner filled with jet fuel dumbass. Yes, if another jet does the same thing, it will be the same results. Your totally harmless until you decide your neighbor is conspiring against you, then we all get to know you as a mass murderer on the 6 o'clock news. YOU belong on a watch list, published on the internet.

 

[Obamerican]

All the righties on this site naturally reject any suggestion that the Bush Admin. were so corrupt as to do this most evil of deeds. I also rejected the idea at first, I didn't want to believe it either.

The fact is , regardless of a four story building which collapsed do to fire, we're talking about a modern 47 story steel frame structure suddenly collapsing to the ground. Nothing like that has ever happened, and if a simple office fire could cause Building 7 to collapse like that then every other steel frame office tower in the world is at risk of the same thing.

Obviously this argument could go on for ever, except that this can't be kept quiet, more and more people are relizing that this was no accident.

Have you always been this stupid?