"tens of millions of dead people may be collecting social security"

[hadit]

Does not save any money
No money is being spent on those deceased SS numbers

Link?

 

[rightwinger]

Link?

Ok show how an Inactive SSN is costing money
You are the one claiming waste and fraud

I can’t prove a negative

 

[hadit]

Ok show how an Inactive SSN is costing money
You are the one claiming waste and fraud

I can’t prove a negative

Then don't state it as a certainty.

I am saying it certainly raises a red flag and deserves scrutiny. The usual suspects are manning the ramparts, desperate to avoid any such scrutiny.

 

[rightwinger]

Then don't state it as a certainty.

I am saying it certainly raises a red flag and deserves scrutiny. The usual suspects are manning the ramparts, desperate to avoid any such scrutiny.

It is the same thing as deceased voters on voter rolls. They don’t actually vote, but Republicans use it as an example of voter fraud

 

[hadit]

It is the same thing as deceased voters on voter rolls. They don’t actually vote, but Republicans use it as an example of voter fraud

That doesn't address your stating as a certainty that no money is being paid out to those over 150 years old. You admitted that you can't prove it, stop stating it as a fact.

 

[pknopp]

That doesn't address your stating as a certainty that no money is being paid out to those over 150 years old. You admitted that you can't prove it, stop stating it as a fact.

The issue isn't "No one". The issue is Musk's claim that there are millions.

 

[hadit]

The issue isn't "No one". The issue is Musk's claim that there are millions.

Unless you're a sock for the other poster, this doesn't concern you. Did you not read what he said?

 

[pknopp]

Unless you're a sock for the other poster, this doesn't concern you. Did you not read what he said?

I thought the thread needed to get back on topic. Now about those millions over 100 collecting S.S.

Tell us about it? Who is collecting these funds and why has no one been charged with fraud?

Could it be because it was all B.S.?

 

[hadit]

I thought the thread needed to get back on topic. Now about those millions over 100 collecting S.S.

Tell us about it? Who is collecting these funds and why has no one been charged with fraud?

Could it be because it was all B.S.?

We'll find out if it's for real or not. That's the whole point, finding out. We know the data is messed up because of these entries. That means it's audit time, and pretending to know already whether there is or is not any fraud going on doesn't hold water.

 

[pknopp]

We'll find out if it's for real or not.

No, we know it's not.

That's the whole point, finding out. We know the data is messed up because of these entries. That means it's audit time, and pretending to know already whether there is or is not any fraud going on doesn't hold water.

Again you misdirect. There is fraud in everything. That's really not the claim. The claim is there are millions of dead people collecting Social Security.

An outright lie.

And you'll continue to make excuse for and deflect those lies.

 

[hadit]

No, we know it's not.

What you "know" are claims made by a different group of people. Like I said, we'll find out. If it's not true, that's great because it means we haven't been wasting money. I don't mind opening the books and ripping down the curtains only to find no problems. I would love for the federal government to actually work well and efficiently, to not be wasting money, but I do insist on knowing, not just taking the word of people with a vested interest in nothing being found.

Again you misdirect. There is fraud in everything. That's really not the claim. The claim is there are millions of dead people collecting Social Security.

An outright lie.

And you'll continue to make excuse for and deflect those lies.

Unless he has access to more info than I do (hmm, one wonders if he could possibly...nah, I have all the headlines) he cannot know for certain.

 

[pknopp]

What you "know" are claims made by a different group of people. Like I said, we'll find out. If it's not true, that's great because it means we haven't been wasting money. I don't mind opening the books and ripping down the curtains only to find no problems. I would love for the federal government to actually work well and efficiently, to not be wasting money, but I do insist on knowing, not just taking the word of people with a vested interest in nothing being found.

Maybe someone with actual knowledge of books and auditing should be doing that before Musk goes off with his insane rants?

Unless he has access to more info than I do (hmm, one wonders if he could possibly...nah, I have all the headlines) he cannot know for certain.

It's an outright lie just like "THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS".

 

[hadit]

Maybe someone with actual knowledge of books and auditing should be doing that before Musk goes off with his insane rants?

Since he's the only one that has undertaken the task in decades, he's the one.

It's an outright lie just like "THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS".

It might turn out to be wrong, but you don't know. Let's see what they find.

 

[rightwinger]

That doesn't address your stating as a certainty that no money is being paid out to those over 150 years old. You admitted that you can't prove it, stop stating it as a fact.

It has been clearly stated that no benefits are paid to anyone over 115

Trump pretends they are

 

[WorldWatcher]

That doesn't address your stating as a certainty that no money is being paid out to those over 150 years old. You admitted that you can't prove it, stop stating it as a fact.

Because the SSA automatically terminates benefit payments at an age of 115.

So no, they aren't paying benefits to someone that is 150.

WW
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SSA - POMS: GN 02602.578 - Termination of Entitlement for Title II Beneficiaries Who are Age 115 or Older

Termination of Entitlement for Title II Beneficiaries Who are Age 115 or Older

secure.ssa.gov

 

[pknopp]

Since he's the only one that has undertaken the task in decades, he's the one.

It might turn out to be wrong, but you don't know. Let's see what they find.

I do know. So do you.

 

[bendog]

I do know. So do you.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

see a shrink

Lick those boots.

Good boy.

 

[protectionist]

Because the SSA automatically terminates benefit payments at an age of 115.

So no, they aren't paying benefits to someone that is 150.

WW
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SSA - POMS: GN 02602.578 - Termination of Entitlement for Title II Beneficiaries Who are Age 115 or Older

Termination of Entitlement for Title II Beneficiaries Who are Age 115 or Older

secure.ssa.gov

EARTH TO WW: the illegal receiving doesn't work with established rules. Duh!

 

[protectionist]

I thought the thread needed to get back on topic. Now about those millions over 100 collecting S.S.

Tell us about it? Who is collecting these funds and why has no one been charged with fraud?

Could it be because it was all B.S.?

When you find out, let us know.