Take a look at how US Democrats and left-wing media outlets cover the current Israel Palestine situation. It could be very telling.

[shockedcanadian]

The issue will be once agan, American citizens appetite for war, even in just supporting traditional.allies as there has been a major shift, even openly anti-Semitic politicians in the U.S. Hell, Canadas Security Industrial.Complex goes one better and manufactures anti-Semites because, "he, why not? It gives us rabbits to chase for golden overtime hours". With each year, Israel needs more support as Western enemies become much stronger and we become weaker.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The consequences of enabling little brother's behavior over the last five decades. He just can't play nice in the sandbox and share.
How did everyone think this was going to end up? Come down with a heavy hand for too long and the extremist elements are going to make a move..even though I'll bet a safe amount
of money that it will be Palestinians who will have the most dead.

Hamas is hoping for more Palestinians dead. They always do. Then they can cry harder over something they started.

Palestinian have a culture of death. They prefer death to life. Because that is what they have been told to believe for the past 50 years since the Muslim countries failed to destroy Israel with the Yom Kippur War.


This was in 2014

The Palestinians’ Death Culture Is Responsible for Recent Terror Attacks - Algemeiner.com

Alaa Abu Jamal was dying to be a martyr -- literally. So on Tuesday, October 13, he rammed his car into a crowd of Jewish pedestrians at a bus stop in Jerusalem's Geula neighborhood, which is home to mostly ultra-Orthodox Jews. He then jumped out and proceeded to hack at two injured Jews with a...

www.algemeiner.com

This was in 2020

Palestinian Arabs cultivate a culture that glorifies death

Mr. Kushner, the creation of a Palestinian state will not eliminate their glorification of death ethos; instead it will flourish. Op-ed.

www.israelnationalnews.com

In what countries are this kind of summer camps found?






In Israel, this is what summer camps are like

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. I see this as a way to decrease conflict, blow up whats on the Temple Mount, then get busy building what should be up there.
2. This is a gift of the arabs, we should just take it, tear it off and eat it likes whats done in a war zone.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Sixties Fan]

Fox News is blatantly on the side of Israel. But I don’t know though about people like Tucker Carlson and others. A lot of people like on the PBD podcast have made criticisms toward Israel. So it’s an interesting dynamic going on with the right wing.

Seems there’s a lot of non interventionalists on the right now when it comes to Israelpalestine.

Its a new era its 2023

What an endless amount of nothing. You say nothing very well.

 

[Sixties Fan]

in another thread I already provided you a video of World War II era Soviet Jews, praising the history of Russia.


Russian culture thrives in Israel



It’s my view I admire the Soviet Jew that fought Hitler. Yeah that’s because America was on the side of the allies in World War II. And we stood together with the soviet people against Adolf Hitler and the third Reich. Many Americans died storming the beaches of Normandy and many Soviets died in the fight against the third Reich.

It’s a matter of common sense, today the people of Israel, greatly admire and thank the Soviet and American people for their contributions in World War II. Of course common sense shows there’s a lot of people in Israel today whose ancestors fight for either America, England, or Russia against the third Reich.

This thread has NOTHING to do with Jews who escaped Russia or the USSR.

Your insinuation is that somehow Israel is a stronger country, a stronger Military because of all the Jews who came from the USSR or Russia and you have NOTHING to back that up.


NOTHING.

 

[Sixties Fan]

in another thread I already provided you a video of World War II era Soviet Jews, praising the history of Russia.


Russian culture thrives in Israel



It’s my view I admire the Soviet Jew that fought Hitler. Yeah that’s because America was on the side of the allies in World War II. And we stood together with the soviet people against Adolf Hitler and the third Reich. Many Americans died storming the beaches of Normandy and many Soviets died in the fight against the third Reich.

It’s a matter of common sense, today the people of Israel, greatly admire and thank the Soviet and American people for their contributions in World War II. Of course common sense shows there’s a lot of people in Israel today whose ancestors fight for either America, England, or Russia against the third Reich.

All kind of cultures strive in Israel, because Israel is made of all the Jews who came from all over the world, returning to their homeland after being expelled or persecuted.


You have NOTHING.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Hamas is hoping for more Palestinians dead. They always do. Then they can cry harder over something they started.

Palestinian have a culture of death. They prefer death to life. Because that is what they have been told to believe for the past 50 years since the Muslim countries failed to destroy Israel with the Yom Kippur War.


This was in 2014

The Palestinians’ Death Culture Is Responsible for Recent Terror Attacks - Algemeiner.com

Alaa Abu Jamal was dying to be a martyr -- literally. So on Tuesday, October 13, he rammed his car into a crowd of Jewish pedestrians at a bus stop in Jerusalem's Geula neighborhood, which is home to mostly ultra-Orthodox Jews. He then jumped out and proceeded to hack at two injured Jews with a...

www.algemeiner.com

This was in 2020

Palestinian Arabs cultivate a culture that glorifies death

Mr. Kushner, the creation of a Palestinian state will not eliminate their glorification of death ethos; instead it will flourish. Op-ed.

www.israelnationalnews.com

In what countries are this kind of summer camps found?






In Israel, this is what summer camps are like

No one but the most ardent believer prefers death to life. And then, the ardent only want death when it brings suffering and misery to the living. You will acknowledge first that Israel was complicit in creating Hamas, correct? And rather than reach out and building trust with the Palestinians to prevent the influence of the hardliners, they treat them like prisoners in their own country and take their land and homes by force....all with the money and blessings of big brother...us!

Again. How in any universe did you believe this was going to end well?

 

[hadit]

If you think MSNBC is left wing...

We all do, where have you been?

 

[Hossfly]

Where is this country they call Palestine? And where did the Palestinians come from? As far as I can figure, some clown who robbed camel caravans and raped little girls, had a drug induced dream of flying a mule into Jerusalem, Israel. His wild tale was so vivid that his people built a gold plated pig sty that resembled the Houston Super Dome. Then they kicked all the Jews out of the country and called it Palestine. I can't find that country on any map. Is it near Cleveland? I'm confused. Please enlighten me. Thank you in advance.

 

[Sixties Fan]

No one but the most ardent believer prefers death to life. And then, the ardent only want death when it brings suffering and misery to the living. You will acknowledge first that Israel was complicit in creating Hamas, correct? And rather than reach out and building trust with the Palestinians to prevent the influence of the hardliners, they treat them like prisoners in their own country and take their land and homes by force....all with the money and blessings of big brother...us!

Again. How in any universe did you believe this was going to end well?

You have everything wrong.
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, and yes, Israel tried to use them against the terrorists to have a partner in peace. Hamas never had any intention in making peace with Israel.

Palestinians have created a culture of death where becoming a Martyr for Islam, is what they are taught on a daily basis, and given Martyr funerals for each and every one of them.


How in the universe can anyone believe that a daily education of hatred for Jews and Israel was not going to end up in another attack from Iran, via Hamas and Gaza against Israel?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

You have everything wrong.
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, and yes, Israel tried to use them against the terrorists to have a partner in peace. Hamas never had any intention in making peace with Israel.

Palestinians have created a culture of death where becoming a Martyr for Islam, is what they are taught on a daily basis, and given Martyr funerals for each and every one of them.


How in the universe can anyone believe that a daily education of hatred for Jews and Israel was not going to end up in another attack from Iran, via Hamas and Gaza against Israel?

No I don't. I have everything right. Israel helped create Hamas as a response to Arafat's PLO. Maybe you were too young to understand.
Hamas is the governing body. Yes, a lot of them are extremists, but then again Israel hasn't given many reasons to trust them. The bulk of Palestinians
just want to live their lives, work their jobs, and maybe have a country to call their own one day. Instead, Israel grabs their land and their homes, settlers attack
their homes (with the tacit approval of the Israeli government) and commit violence against them without fear of retribution..

You are confusing the small amount of ardent true believers as representing Palestinians as a whole.
They don't.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Guess what won't be mentioned anywhere on the idiot box today...

October 5 2023: Over 800 Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound during Jewish Sukkot holiday

''More than 800 Israeli settlers stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem on Thursday morning under the protection of Israeli forces.

Rabbis, heads of settlement associations, and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who forced their way into the religious site compound, a source in the Islamic Endowments Department in Jerusalem told The New Arab's Arabic sister site Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.

Israeli forces imposed severe restrictions on Muslim worshippers entering Al-Aqsa and those under 60 were prevented from accessing the site.

It comes during the Jewish religious holiday of Sukkot, which started on 29 September and ends on Friday. The holiday has seen thousands of Israeli extremists storm the Al-Aqsa compound, with almost 1,500 entering the site on Monday.

Israeli extremists also continued on Thursday to hold provocative marches both inside Jerusalem's Old City and outside its walls, attacking Palestinians and their property.

They also beat and spat at journalists in a market area near Al-Aqsa, where shops were forced to close for the sixth day in a row.

The Old City is home to Al-Aqsa as well as the Western Wall and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

The Al-Aqsa compound is the third holiest site in Islam and the most important Muslim place in Palestine.''

https://www.newarab.com/news/over-80...ompound-sukkot

 

[Sixties Fan]

It also obscures Hamas's curious history. To a certain degree, the Islamist organization whose militant wing has rained rockets on Israel the past few weeks has the Jewish state to thank for its existence. Hamas launched in 1988 in Gaza at the time of the first intifada, or uprising, with a charter now infamous for its anti-Semitism and its refusal to accept the existence of the Israeli state. But for more than a decade prior, Israeli authorities actively enabled its rise.

At the time, Israel's main enemy was the late Yasser Arafat's Fatah party, which formed the heart of the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). Fatah was secular and cast in the mold of other revolutionary, leftist guerrilla movements waging insurgencies elsewhere in the world during the Cold War. The PLO carried out assassinations and kidnappings and, although recognized by neighboring Arab states, was considered a terrorist organization by Israel; PLO operatives in the occupied territories faced brutal repression at the hands of the Israeli security state.

Meanwhile, the activities of Islamists affiliated with Egypt's banned Muslim Brotherhood were allowed in the open in Gaza — a radical departure from when the Strip was administered by the secular-nationalist Egyptian government of Gamal Abdel Nasser. Egypt lost control of Gaza to Israel after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, which saw Israel also seize the West Bank. In 1966, Nasser had executed Sayyid Qutb, one of the Brotherhood's leading intellectuals. The Israelis saw Qutb's adherents in the Palestinian territories, including the wheelchair-bound Sheik Ahmed Yassin, as a useful counterweight to Arafat's PLO.

"When I look back at the chain of events I think we made a mistake," one Israeli official who had worked in Gaza in the 1980s said in a 2009 interview with the Wall Street Journal's Andrew Higgins. "But at the time nobody thought about the possible results."

Higgins's article is worth reading in full. He goes on to outline the type of assistance the Israelis initially gave Yassin, whom the PLO at one time deemed a "collaborator," and Gaza's other Islamists:

Israel's military-led administration in Gaza looked favorably on the paraplegic cleric, who set up a wide network of schools, clinics, a library and kindergartens. Sheikh Yassin formed the Islamist group Mujama al-Islamiya, which was officially recognized by Israel as a charity and then, in 1979, as an association. Israel also endorsed the establishment of the Islamic University of Gaza, which it now regards as a hotbed of militancy. The university was one of the first targets hit by Israeli warplanes in the [2008-9 Operation Cast Lead].

Yassin's Mujama would become Hamas, which, it can be argued, was Israel's Taliban: an Islamist group whose antecedents had been laid down by the West in a battle against a leftist enemy. Israel jailed Yassin in 1984 on a 12-year sentence after the discovery of hidden arms caches, but he was released a year later. The Israelis must have been more worried about other enemies.



Eventually, the tables turned. After the 1993 Oslo accords, Israel's formal recognition of the PLO and the start of what we now know as the peace process, Hamas was the Israelis' bete noire. Hamas refused to accept Israel or renounce violence and became perhaps the leading institution of Palestinian resistance to Israeli occupation, which, far beyond religious ideology, is the main reason for its continued popularity among Palestinians.

Yassin was killed in an Israeli airstrike in 2004. In 2007, after a legitimate Hamas election victory that rankled both the West and Fatah, the Islamist group took over Gaza — a move that led to strict Israeli blockades and the grinding cycle of conflict that is once more repeating itself.

But, as Aaron David Miller, a Middle East expert at the Woodrow Wilson Center, observes, a strange, self-sustaining relationship remains. Israel's hawkish government — comprising many politicians who have little interest in seeing the creation of a separate Palestinian state — dwells on the security threat that Hamas's crude rockets pose. Hamas depends, Miller writes, on "an ideology and strategy steeped in confrontation and resistance."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/

 

[Sixties Fan]

No I don't. I have everything right. Israel helped create Hamas as a response to Arafat's PLO. Maybe you were too young to understand.
Hamas is the governing body. Yes, a lot of them are extremists, but then again Israel hasn't given many reasons to trust them. The bulk of Palestinians
just want to live their lives, work their jobs, and maybe have a country to call their own one day. Instead, Israel grabs their land and their homes, settlers attack
their homes (with the tacit approval of the Israeli government) and commit violence against them without fear of retribution..

You are confusing the small amount of ardent true believers as representing Palestinians as a whole.
They don't.

The bulk of Palestinians in Gaza are against Hamas because they are only used to die for Hamas. Actually, to die for Islam. Islam's war against the Jews. So, as many as they can, they leave Gaza via Israel or some other way.

Israel totally left Gaza in 2005 so that Gaza would become its own independent country. Instead, Hamas started to launch rockets against Israel and has not stopped since, at any cost, especially of Palestinian lives.

How small is that number because they seem to comprise quite a few militia groups in Gaza. And too many of them invaded Israel this morning and murdered and injured and kidnapped many Israelis.


Is it really about how small their number is, considering how many summer camps for children to teach them how to kill Israelis they have every summer?

 

[BluesLegend]

If some dirt bag MF'ers fired 5,000 missles into the U.S. crossed our border and killed our women and children we'd nuke their ass!!

 

[BluesLegend]

The bulk of Palestinians in Gaza are against Hamas because they are only used to die for Hamas. Actually, to die for Islam. Islam's war against the Jews. So, as many as they can, they leave Gaza via Israel or some other way.

Israel totally left Gaza in 2005 so that Gaza would become its own independent country. Instead, Hamas started to launch rockets against Israel and has not stopped since, at any cost, especially of Palestinian lives.

How small is that number because they seem to comprise quite a few militia groups in Gaza. And too many of them invaded Israel this morning and murdered and injured and kidnapped many Israelis.


Is it really about how small their number is, considering how many summer camps for children to teach them how to kill Israelis they have every summer?

Then Gaza needs to be reduced to rubble.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. Start with the Temple Mount, then go from there.
2. All out war has its own consequences.
3. Time to take the trash out, them pesky arabs need to be shown no mercy, this time.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Mac-7]

If you think MSNBC is left wing...

MSNBC is leftwing

but much to its credit surprisingly pro Israel

Or at least not stridently anti Israel

 

[yidnar]

I am afraid you are right. Not enough airtime is devoted to the Palestinian perspective.

the palestinians gave their perspective in the form of 4000 rockets last night .

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

1. Some military bazooka squadron should surround the Temple Mount, and blow that crap from whats atop there.
2. Nothing left, but rubble.
3. FIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas