Take a look at how US Democrats and left-wing media outlets cover the current Israel Palestine situation. It could be very telling.

God didn't give that land to them. I believe it was apportioned to them by....the UN and the Brits. :)
Wow...a long trail of terrible decisions and an unwillingness to share the land and play nice...give rise to hardliners. Who'da thunk?

I wondering how anyone could have thought this would turn out well.
Git yerself a history book.
 
When Moses led the people from Egypt and delivered them to the Promised Land, it was called Israel and not one square foot of it belongs to anyone but Israel The Romans could have called it Wopland but that changes nothing. It is what it is.
But also remember that Jesus brought us the New Testament. And certainly we should respect the Old Testament but I’m also a Roman Catholic so I kind of view things a little bit differently perhaps from you. But there are certainly similarities between our views.

Also, Islam believes in the second coming of Jesus.


All of these old testament names, like Moses, or David, or Abraham, are also used by Muslims to name their children with. Let us keep this in mind.
 
Palestinians were NAZIS during WWII and today, in 2023, they are still fucking NAZIS Franklin.

Ok 99% of the German third Reich was Christian. And the overwhelming number of Muslims in World War II helped Jews. Look at the grand mosque of Paris. It was a refuge site for Jewish French people.

In Algeria, Tunis, Morocco, and in Iran, as well as turkey, Jews, were saved from the holocaust


Obviously many Christians fighting for Russia, England, and America helped out juice and prevented them from dying as well. And over 500,000 Sophia Jews, and hundreds of thousands of American Jews, thought for the allies in World War II.


So the number of Jews that stood with germany in World War II is minuscule. Quite small compared to those who fought for the Ally’s. Something like 1 million Muslims thought for British India in World War II.
 
Ok 99% of the German third Reich was Christian. And the overwhelming number of Muslims in World War II helped Jews. Look at the grand mosque of Paris. It was a refuge site for Jewish French people.

In Algeria, Tunis, Morocco, and in Iran, as well as turkey, Jews, were saved from the holocaust


Obviously many Christians fighting for Russia, England, and America helped out juice and prevented them from dying as well. And over 500,000 Sophia Jews, and hundreds of thousands of American Jews, thought for the allies in World War II.


So the number of Jews that stood with germany in World War II is minuscule. Quite small compared to those who fought for the Ally’s. Something like 1 million Muslims thought for British India in World War II.
However, none of those groups are still NAZIS today. HAMAS is.
 
But also remember that Jesus brought us the New Testament. And certainly we should respect the Old Testament but I’m also a Roman Catholic so I kind of view things a little bit differently perhaps from you. But there are certainly similarities between our views.

Also, Islam believes in the second coming of Jesus.


All of these old testament names, like Moses, or David, or Abraham, are also used by Muslims to name their children with. Let us keep this in mind.
I started out on the defunct AOL Politics of Israel Board about 25 years ago and we all moved here in 2012. You can't inform me of anything about Israel we haven't discussed. Why don't you go to the Israel/ Palestine Forum and teach all them Jews about their history?
 
However, none of those groups are still NAZIS today. HAMAS is.
Yes but Hamas is propped up by Iran, and iran are opposed by the Arab nation.


Truth be told my friend there’s really not many Nazis left in the world. There are some in western Ukraine and if you actually ironically in Russia, I may be a few in America, but nothing like it was during World War II so honestly that word nazi shd not really be used in these conflicts. Only when we directly see somebody wearing a swastika though like we have in Ukraine. If you can show a modern day supporter of hamas, wearing a swastika, then show it but I haven’t seen anything like it.
 
I just happened to turn on MSNBC and I was surprised to see they had just ran an interview with a pro Israel democrat, followed by interviewing a pro Israel media person.

What’s going on here. ???? But also realize that the so-called squad people like Elon Omar, who claim to support Palestinians have actually voted in favor of the Israeli iron dome missile defense system. The whole point is that these are not peverple to be trusted. You can have whatever opinion you want on Israelpalestine I for one am neutral, realizing that there’s beautiful people on both sides. .

I would expect CNN and MSNBC to at least give interviews to people that support hamas and are pro Palestinian. After all they claim to support diversity. But then again, you realize something here these are the same people that support Nazis in Ukraine so who are they to claim to support the Jewish people??. It’s all very interesting. Let’s see what happens this time around and if Equal media coverage is given to both sides.

We are. We notice that they are complicit in not showing the women, children, and elderly living in the open air camps on the GazaStrip, with no hope, and Israel not even letting Palestinian men fish the waters.

Notice how those pictures are never shown?

How convenient for the narrative.
 
I started out on the defunct AOL Politics of Israel Board about 25 years ago and we all moved here in 2012. You can't inform me of anything about Israel we haven't discussed. Why don't you go to the Israel/ Palestine Forum and teach all them Jews about their history?
I’m interested in this thing from an American perspective. I’m neither Jewish or Muslim neither Israeli or Palestinian.

I’m a Christian in the first place. And I go by the New Testament that Jesus brought us.


I’m probably not as informed about the Jewish religion or Israel as you are I give you that.
 
Yes but Hamas is propped up by Iran, and iran are opposed by the Arab nation.


Truth be told my friend there’s really not many Nazis left in the world. There are some in western Ukraine and if you actually ironically in Russia, I may be a few in America, but nothing like it was during World War II so honestly that word you’re not really be used in these conflicts. Only when we directly see somebody wearing a swastika though like we have in Ukraine. If you can show a modern day supporter of hamas, wearing a swastika, then show it but I haven’t seen anything like it.
Like it or not, I'm telling the truth. HAMAS is a NAZI regime. The Palestinians chose HAMAS as their government. Ergo... Palestinians are fucking NAZIS. Today, 2023.
 
Like it or not, I'm telling the truth. HAMAS is a NAZI regime. The Palestinians chose HAMAS as their government. Ergo... Palestinians are fucking NAZIS. Today, 2023.
OK it’s one thing to oppose Palestine. But it’s a logical failure to call them hitler supporters. Hitlers been dead for over 70 years…. He only has a few supporters left mostly in western Ukraine.
 
No my friend, even during his lifetime, some Nazis were not Hitler supporters.
You are stuck in a false equivalence program.
Nazis are Nazis, Hitler is not in that equation.
Well, hang on just a second. A true Nazi supported Hitler’s ideology as listed in Mein Kampf. And those Germans who opposed Hitler were in the crosshairs of the Gestapo in the SS.
 
Well, hang on just a second. A true Nazi supported Hitler’s ideology as listed in Mein Kampf. And those Germans who opposed Hitler were in the crosshairs of the Gestapo in the SS.
The National Socialist Party in Germany in the 1930's was founded, and formed without Hitler or 'mien kompf'. He simply took over and appropriated that party for his evil purpose.
 
Well, hang on just a second. A true Nazi supported Hitler’s ideology as listed in Mein Kampf. And those Germans who opposed Hitler were in the crosshairs of the Gestapo in the SS.
My FIL was a German from the county of Heidenheim. His co-worker was Georg Elser, the man who bombed the saloon in Munich where Hitler spoke. Hitler hated the Heidenheimers so much he had all the young men in the county drafted, trained and sent to the Russian front. My FIL and 2 of his brothers were killed in the last year of the war. Elser was caught at the Austrian border and imprisoned in Dachau. Two days before he committed suicide, Hitler ordered his execution. Elser was thrown alive into an oven. In Heidenheim my son and daughter attended the Georg Elser School in Georg Elser City Park. on Georg Elser Strasse.
 
My FIL was a German from the county of Heidenheim. His co-worker was Georg Elser, the man who bombed the saloon in Munich where Hitler spoke. Hitler hated the Heidenheimers so much he had all the young men in the county drafted, trained and sent to the Russian front. My FIL and 2 of his brothers were killed in the last year of the war. Elser was caught at the Austrian border and imprisoned in Dachau. Two days before he committed suicide, Hitler ordered his execution. Elser was thrown alive into an oven. In Heidenheim my son and daughter attended the Georg Elser School in Georg Elser City Park. on Georg Elser Strasse.
That is a harrowing story..appreciate you sharing ..God be with your father-in-law and his relatives.
 
I'm not certain where you get your information, but Palesitine is more than willing to take cash and weapons from Iran, regardless of any religious animosity.

The timing of this aggression is pretty obvious. Israel and Saudi were on the brink of signing some historic agreements that Iran clearly would kill to stop.

The only real question is why Hezbullah in Lebenon has not yet joined in the fight. It may be they are waiting for Israel to look away momentarily.

Who can say.

The blood for this conflict lays on the hands of the Palestinians and the Iranian government.
Apparently Hezbollah has recently joined Hamas.
 
I just happened to turn on MSNBC and I was surprised to see they had just ran an interview with a pro Israel democrat, followed by interviewing a pro Israel media person.

What’s going on here. ???? But also realize that the so-called squad people like Elon Omar, who claim to support Palestinians have actually voted in favor of the Israeli iron dome missile defense system. The whole point is that these are not people to be trusted. You can have whatever opinion you want on Israelpalestine I for one am neutral, realizing that there’s beautiful people on both sides. .

I would expect CNN and MSNBC to at least give interviews to people that support hamas and are pro Palestinian. After all they claim to support diversity. But then again, you realize something here these are the same people that support Nazis in Ukraine so who are they to claim to support the Jewish people??. It’s all very interesting. Let’s see what happens this time around and if Equal media coverage is given to both sides.
Both the media and American politicians are very one sided in support of Israel. They are like the 51st state except they have 100 senators instead of 2.
 

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