Leo123
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Yeah and? Why is that 'weird?' Ball back in your court now.Trump is not indicted. Ball is in your court.
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Yeah and? Why is that 'weird?' Ball back in your court now.Trump is not indicted. Ball is in your court.
I said nothing about fast track citizenship, you interjected that. I specifically said WORK VISAs which are already widely in use. A WORK VISA and citizenship are completely separate things. And if you think putting every construction/maintenance company, every restaurant, every service company out of business because they hire illegals you are living in an ivory tower. You don't fix a problem decades in the making by flipping a switch.You think Trump should create another DACA like form of weird citizenship to accommodate businesses that have blatantly disregarded our labor laws/immigration laws and ran legitimate owners out of business?
Do you think there are different levels of illegal and should it depend upon whether or not they are a useful enough slave? That sounds like some slave era shit right there.
I think thats exactly what this nation needs…If a business can’t stay in business without hiring illegals then it never should have been in business to begin with.
The Bracero Program got us work visas, amnesty and DACA, the flood gates were opened. Give the parasites an inch and they take a mile…Mexico has been taking America over one parasite plant at a time and we Americans have been too stupid to see it for what it is…It’s time we suffer a bit to fix this, to reset things, to take America back. Send them all home and let’s start all over. Merit based immigration, no birthright citizenship.I said nothing about fast track citizenship, you interjected that. I specifically said WORK VISAs which are already widely in use. A WORK VISA and citizenship are completely separate things. And if you think putting every construction/maintenance company, every restaurant, every service company out of business because they hire illegals you are living in an ivory tower. You don't fix a problem decades in the making by flipping a switch.
Don’t make me repeat myself again, LOSER.Do you honestly believe your services would be needed if Mexico didn’t send 50 million parasites here?
How would you enforce it? For instance, ICE raids a construction company and finds 5 illegals employed. ICE says "why didn't you hire Americans first? Employer says "I've held these position open for months, no Americans stepped up and I'm a month behind on my jobs. So do you shut the company down and send the employer to jail?Should there be a 'Hire an American citizen first' polity? Would it be legal?

I believe if we all woke up tomorrow and all illegals were gone we’d manage just fine. Let the math lead us. If they are a $150B dollar per year net loss then they are a net loss all around.And if you think putting every construction/maintenance company, every restaurant, every service company out of business because they hire illegals you are living in an ivory tower.
I'm pretty sure the owner IS an illegal alien..LOL!Did the Taco shop owner?
Employer needs to ask himself why no American wants to work for him.How would you enforce it? For instance, ICE raids a construction company and finds 5 illegals employed. ICE says "why didn't you hire Americans first? Employer says "I've held these position open for months, no Americans stepped up and I'm a month behind on my jobs. So do you shut the company down and send the employer to jail?![]()
/—-/ That’s what I’ve been pushing for since the 1990s.That's what libs have been pushing for a long time.
iCE says “I suggest you take on less jobs.”How would you enforce it? For instance, ICE raids a construction company and finds 5 illegals employed. ICE says "why didn't you hire Americans first? Employer says "I've held these position open for months, no Americans stepped up and I'm a month behind on my jobs. So do you shut the company down and send the employer to jail?![]()
I bet, in history, those exact words have been uttered~iCE says “I suggest you take on less jobs.”
What’s next…Employer says- “I had to go pluck these Zulus from the jungle, it’s the only way I could stay in business.”
They definitely have.I bet, in history, those exact words have been uttered~
Our Representatives have looked the other way when American employers went overseas to get cheap labor and then, went overseas with their manufacturing facilities. The American economy has been diluted with cheap overseas labor and goods for decades. America has become more consumer oriented than manufacturing oriented which, IMO is not a good thing.It’s damn sad that Americans actually believe our nation is so dependent upon desperate illiterate thirdworlders.
You are mixing subjects now to obfuscate the original subject. Yes, I know illegals take up resources as I have posted about many times. The point remains that America IS in a labor crunch largely because our younger generation(s) who would be the labor force is largely uninterested in hard labor and prefers making money on TikTok or other side hustle jobs not involving sweat. We can and should work our way out of that predicament in time. But Like I said, you don't fix a problem years/decades in the making quickly.I believe if we all woke up tomorrow and all illegals were gone we’d manage just fine. Let the math lead us. If they are a $150B dollar per year net loss then they are a net loss all around.
We can get back to dealing with Dr, John Smith and truckers named Cletus and Cooter…return to moving through emergency rooms swiftly, attaining doctors appointments quickly, be rid of excess traffic on our roadways, blue collar trade work would drive the middle-class again, fewer of our daughters will be maimed raped and murdered….the list goes on and on…our quality of life will BOOM.
Ignorant Americans went along for the ride…I blame my father and grandfather…they fucked us real good.Our Representatives have looked the other way when American employers went overseas to get cheap labor and then, went overseas with their manufacturing facilities. The American economy has been diluted with cheap overseas labor and goods for decades. America has become more consumer oriented than manufacturing oriented which, IMO is not a good thing.
IMO the real begining of it was instituted after WWII with the Marshall Plan along with tech advances.Ignorant Americans went along for the ride…I blame my father and grandfather…they fucked us real good.
Yes, however, I'll take it for now.Yawn, call me when they get to the CEOs.
What ICE suggestion? You previously said you want the employers jailed. So you are backtracking. You are talking from an ivory tower I am talking from Southern Arizona where I have lived for most of my life. I KNOW what I'm talking about while you talk theories that will fail spectacularly.iCE says “I suggest you take on less jobs.”
What’s next…Employer says- “I had to go pluck these Zulus from the jungle, it’s the only way I could stay in business.”