T Cell immunity existed before this Covid so called crisis

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This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
 


But, the fact that it’s so darn hard to transmit the COVID-19 virus to others wouldn’t, itself, be surprising if there weren’t something else very important that Fauci and Redfield aren’t telling you.

You see, it turns out that an extraordinary number of people have pre-existing and often very long-lasting “crossover immunity” to the COVID-19 virus from having been infected with older strains of coronavirus, many of which cause nothing worse than a common cold.

In fact, it looks like around half of us were already immune to the COVID-19 virus (i.e., SARS-CoV-2) even before it ever existed.

Finally, if half of us turn out to have pre-existing immunity to COVID-19, the claim bandied about that we won’t achieve herd immunity till 2/3 have become infected turns out to be just as much garbage as the scare-mongering about how uniquely deadly and contagious COVID-19 is.
 
This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
You're drawing conclusions not supported by your link.
 
This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
The human immune system has a long term memory of sorts. It can remember viruses it has seen decades ago and is passed on from the mother.. Some estimations are that we have reached 50-60% immunity when all factors are considered. That is the level known as herd immunity.

Vaccines for the high risk is the finishing touch to opening up our system.
 

The Mail In virus has a problem...........can they keep the fear going til November.........poor things.
 
This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
You're drawing conclusions not supported by your link.

He is drawing conclusion from KNOWN SCIENCE IN VIROLOGY. Something you democrats have been ignoring since day1 to forward you fearmongering !.
 
This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
The human immune system has a long term memory of sorts. It can remember viruses it has seen decades ago and is passed on from the mother.. Some estimations are that we have reached 50-60% immunity when all factors are considered. That is the level known as herd immunity.

Vaccines for the high risk is the finishing touch to opening up our system.
This explains why so many people walk right through the virus without even knowing they had it........if they even could get it.

They already had T Cell immunity from older versions of Corona.......and explains why the curve is flattening all over after the rush..................................

This is the only virus where you have to be tested to know you had it..........LMAO
 

The Mail In virus has a problem...........can they keep the fear going til November.........poor things.
When we opened up our states to resume working we also placed those out there that had never seen this virus or were susceptible to it. That spike is now over and the infections are in decline. Only very few spots were hit hard indicating that there were pockets of vulnerable people.

Opening up in summer was the best thing we could have done! Now infections will be very low come Nov 3 and the economy will again be roaring.
 

The Mail In virus has a problem...........can they keep the fear going til November.........poor things.
When we opened up our states to resume working we also placed those out there that had never seen this virus or were susceptible to it. That spike is now over and the infections are in decline. Only very few spots were hit hard indicating that there were pockets of vulnerable people.

Opening up in summer was the best thing we could have done! Now infections will be very low come Nov 3 and the economy will again be roaring.
We should have never been shut down to begin with......................and a VERY LARGE portion of the small businesses have been destroyed...............and yet they continue to maintain restrictions on business.................Insanity...........for power and they use Fear to push it..........It's Pathetic really
 
Some viruses impart permanent immunity on their victims ... if you've had chicken pox, you will never get it again ...
Some viruses only impart temporary immunity to their victims ... tetanus vaccines should be administered every ten years ...
Some viruses impart a very limited amount of immunity ... the typical coronavirus for only a few months ...

We do not know about SARS ... so it's fair to assume we'll need a 75% die-off of the genetically susceptible individuals to achieve our herd immunity ... like with small pox and bubonic plague ... or spay and neuter all those who get sick from Covid-19 ... it's the right thing to do ...
 
This Covid is the 7th time and 7th strain of this virus.........Corona has been around since WWII ........it has always been part of the cold viruses........

Now as the FEAR MONGERING losses steam..............studies are starting to come out that people may have already had T CELL IMMUNITY.

Let's take a quick look...........follow me.


Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus'

Adalja added that he was not surprised to see this T cell cross-reactivity in the study participants who had not been exposed to the novel coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2.

"SARS-CoV-2 is the seventh human coronavirus that has been discovered, and four of the human coronaviruses are what we call community-acquired coronaviruses, and together those four are responsible for 25% of our common colds," Adalja said. "Almost every person in the world has had some encounter with a coronavirus, and since they are all part of the same family, there is some cross reactive immunity that develops."

The new Nature study isn't the only paper to suggest a certain level of pre-existing immunity among some people to the novel coronavirus.

Alessandro Sette and Shane Crotty, both of the University of California, San Diego, wrote in a comment paper published in the journal Nature earlier this month, that "20--50% of unexposed donors display significant reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 antigen peptide pools," based on separate research -- but they noted that the source and clinical relevance of the reactivity remains unknown.

Sette and Crotty wrote that "it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to" common cold coronaviruses.
You're drawing conclusions not supported by your link.

He is drawing conclusion from KNOWN SCIENCE IN VIROLOGY. Something you democrats have been ignoring since day1 to forward you fearmongering !.
Lol, I'm not talking about his conclusions, I'm talking about yours.
 

and yet in my previous posts they are seeing lingering immunity or milder reactions to those who had older T cells of Corona..........which explains why so many walk through it............

it is starting to pop out on the net.........many articles on it now.
 

The Mail In virus has a problem...........can they keep the fear going til November.........poor things.
When we opened up our states to resume working we also placed those out there that had never seen this virus or were susceptible to it. That spike is now over and the infections are in decline. Only very few spots were hit hard indicating that there were pockets of vulnerable people.

Opening up in summer was the best thing we could have done! Now infections will be very low come Nov 3 and the economy will again be roaring.
We should have never been shut down to begin with......................and a VERY LARGE portion of the small businesses have been destroyed...............and yet they continue to maintain restrictions on business.................Insanity...........for power and they use Fear to push it..........It's Pathetic really
WE should have never shut anything down except regions that were heavily infected. China didn't and they are back up and running.

Its very easy to shut down local areas and help with the ill. This would have resulted in far less damage to our economy. Trumps regional approach was the best thing he could of done. Regional governors in South Dakota, Wyoming and other states handled their regions far better than the democrats MASK Mandate Joe and his top down communist control tower philosophy.
 
Conclusion
The study sums up: “NFKBIA, C3, and CCL20 may be key genes in SARS-CoV-2 infected hBOs. Our study suggested that “Cytokine-cytokine receptor interaction,” “P53 signaling pathway”, and “Apoptosis” were the main signaling pathways during SARS-CoV-2 infection. “ Appropriate intervention in these pathways could potentially turn around the course of the disease, these findings suggest.
 
We do not know about SARS ... so it's fair to assume we'll need a 75% die-off of the genetically susceptible individuals to achieve our herd immunity .
Incorrect;

These people can use vaccines and achieve it far faster than waiting for them to die off.

The corona virus triggers the human immune response even if it is a different strain or an older strain. Studies are under way on people who have immunities and they are finding that many of these people were exposed to earlier strains of this virus 10-20 years ago or more.

If the current virus is anything like its predecessors (and it most likely will be), it too will have a long term viral imprint on the T-cell.
 
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Conclusion
The study sums up: “NFKBIA, C3, and CCL20 may be key genes in SARS-CoV-2 infected hBOs. Our study suggested that “Cytokine-cytokine receptor interaction,” “P53 signaling pathway”, and “Apoptosis” were the main signaling pathways during SARS-CoV-2 infection. “ Appropriate intervention in these pathways could potentially turn around the course of the disease, these findings suggest.
LOL

These pathways are directly slowed by HCL... That is why it works so well, when used early in an infection, to slow or stop the cytokine storm from happening and causing damage to vital organs.
 
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Conclusion
The study sums up: “NFKBIA, C3, and CCL20 may be key genes in SARS-CoV-2 infected hBOs. Our study suggested that “Cytokine-cytokine receptor interaction,” “P53 signaling pathway”, and “Apoptosis” were the main signaling pathways during SARS-CoV-2 infection. “ Appropriate intervention in these pathways could potentially turn around the course of the disease, these findings suggest.
LOL

These pathways are directly slowed by HCL... That is why it works so well when used early in an infection to slow or stop the cytokine storm from happening and causing damage to vital organs.
 
“Cytokine-cytokine receptor interaction,” “P53 signaling pathway”, and “Apoptosis” were the main signaling pathways during SARS-CoV-2 infection. “ Appropriate intervention in these pathways could potentially turn around the course of the disease, these findings suggest.
This is why HCL stops this virus from killing.. the pathways are slowed and not allowed to overreact causing a storm that damages tissues. Hydroxycloroquine slows these pathways as they are also the pathways that malaria uses to create the same cytokine storm that kills people. Add to this an antibiotic to kill secondary infections and whala!

This also means once the cytokine storm has taken off it is pretty much useless as a therapy.

Low dose use can help, profolactically, in keeping one from becoming very ill. You still get this disease but it allows you to get a very mild case and build antibodies.
 
The "virus" impact has nothing to do with cells of anything other than STUPID cells run amok- there are so many hurt by the STUPID cell economically, that turning to godvernment to merely survive is the only choice they have- THAT is evil personified, the epitome of-

These STUPID fucks who worship at the foot of the two lyingest entities in the world will get their come uppance- sadly, those most affected, economically, will pay the price-

I stopped using the word hate, a long time ago, because it is such a powerful emotion- but, the STUPID cell, that has run amok in this Country is leading me to reinstituting the word into my vocabulary- and trust me when I say I will use it powerfully when/if confronted by it.
 

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