Syria forces behind Khan Sheikhoun gas attack: UN probe

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Oh and under Bandera their Nazi loving leader the eastern Ukrainians seemed to have a problem with Jews. Oh and Poles. War crimes beyond belief. Now what did that have to do with Stalin?

Nothing. The pogrom in Lviv showed the true heart of eastern Ukrainian Nazi lovers.

'Blood oozed through the soil at grave sites. You could see the pits move, some of them were still alive': The secrets of Ukraine's shameful 'Holocaust of Bullets' killing centre where 1.6million Jews were executed

• WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
• Jews were humiliated and murdered one by one in Ukraine during WW2
• Many of them were forced to stand in front of mass graves and shot dead
• Women were stripped naked, beaten in the streets during 'organised riots'
• Witnesses today have broken their silence to tell of Ukraine's killing centre

Read more: The secrets of Ukraine's shameful 'Holocaust of Bullets' | Daily Mail Online
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This was their hero Bandera. And the Ukrainians that were mad at Stalin had to kill all the Poles as well as all the Jews?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

What were the Volhynian Massacres?

The Volhynian massacres were anti-Polish genocidal ethnic cleansings conducted by Ukrainian nationalists.
The Volhynian massacres were anti-Polish genocidal ethnic cleansings conducted by Ukrainian nationalists. The massacres took place within Poland’s borders as of the outbreak of WWII, and not only in Volhynia, but also in other areas with a mixed Polish-Ukrainian population, especially the Lvov, Tarnopol, and Stanisławów voivodeships (that is, in Eastern Galicia), as well as in some voivodeships bordering on Volhynia (the western part of the Lublin Voivodeship and the northern part of the Polesie Voivodeship – see map). The time frame of these massacres was 1943−1945.

The perpetrators were the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists−Bandera faction (OUN-B) and its military wing, called the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA). Their documents show that the planned extermination of the Polish population was called an “anti-Polish operation.”

What were the Volhynian Massacres?

Again I'm not making excuses for them. But would you really expect them to side with the Soviets? At that time the Germans hadn't orchestrated the deaths of millions of Ukrainians, the Soviets had.

The incoming Ukrainian president will have to turn some attention to history, because the outgoing one has just made a hero of a long-dead Ukrainian fascist.
A Fascist Hero in Democratic Kiev
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Cohen: Trump should have spoken out against what many see as Ukraine’s troubling glorification of Nazi collaborators. Trump should have broadened the agenda to call out Kiev for its official state policy of honoring controversial figures from World War Two.

The latest example: local authorities in the capital recentlyvoted to rename a major street after a former Nazi collaborator and anti-Semite named Roman Shukhevych.

Shukhevych led the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), an organization responsible for the mass slaughter of Poles and Jews during the war. Even inside Ukraine the renaming is a disputed move, with hundreds of people taking to the streets last Friday to protest the decision – only to be attacked by an ultra-nationalist neo-Nazi group called C14.
Commentary: How Trump can show he’s tough on anti-Semitism

Believe anything you want, hard headed baileyn45, but the facts remain the facts no matter if they suit you or not.

What in the world are you rambling about? I've merely pointed out that at the time the Ukrainians had more history suffering at the hands of the Soviets than the Germans. Whether they acted like the Nazis or not is irrelevant.

he lives in the world of Olgono trolls, paid and very aggressive

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I wonder why every new troll who joins this forum starts calling "trolls" the people who present who present the truth vs their own fake stories? And of course, if CNN says something, it's 100% true

You must have graduated from Soros troll factory yourself, dear OP, we know Soros pays $25 per hour for destroying the monuments and other violence in USA while in Ukraine average salary is about $150 per month if you are lucky (a lot of people are paid with several months delay). Since Sunday when OP joined USMB, he seems to shoot his idiotic posts day and night (almost zero time remains for working!), so my guess is: he's a paid troll.

really, its yours? or D. Kiselev´s one?

 

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Mod Note:

Gotta suggest that the ORIGINAL topic get the attention here. It's in Mid-East forum, so all the Ukraine WW2 history is really off-topic. It's INTERESTING -- but someone should start a thread in an appropriate forum.

At LEAST restrict this one to the alleged UN reports on the latest Syrian chemical weapons attack. Or related to events in Syria.

 

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fight back Olgino trolls with facts and truth :


Syria Gas Attack ‘False Flag’ Accusations And Why They’re Totally Wrong


On Tuesday at least 72 people were killed in what is widely believed to have been a nerve agent chemical attack by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

But according to one of Donald Trump’s favourite news sources, Alex Jones’s Infowars, the reality is rather different.

“The White Helmets, an al-Qaeda affiliated group funded by George Soros and the British government, have reportedly staged another chemical weapon attack on civilians in the Syrian city of Khan Shaykhun to lay blame on the Syrian government.”


The Infowars article outlines a number of points which it claims all indicate a “false flag operation”, carried out as part of a shadowy New World Order plot to bring about regime change in Syria against the wishes of Assad’s main international ally, Russia.

Why? Well according to an Infowars broadcast on the subject, “Assad and the Putin regime [are the only things stopping] bankers taking over the ME”.

Here’s why they are very, very wrong.

1) ‘The White Helmets are an al-Qaida affiliated group’

This allegation originated in 21stCenturyWire, a pro-Assad website whose current front page includes stories such as “The West’s bizarre anti-Russia hysteria” and “FBI trove of 9/11 Pentagon photos refuels conspiracy suspicions”.

The original article failed to provide proof that the White Helmets had any ties to terrorist or rebel groups other than the fact they operate in some of the same areas which, seeing as their aim is to rescue those caught in government attacks, makes perfect sense.

2) The journalist who ‘knew the attack was going to happen’
From Infowars...

A day prior to the attack, Gulf-based Orient TV announced “Tomorrow we are launching a media campaign to cover the airstrikes on Hama country side including the usage of chemical warfare against civilians.” This shows clear foreknowledge that the rebels were going to stage an attack by Orient TV.

Again this is demonstrably false.

A translation of Karam’s Facebook post reads: “Tomorrow starting a media campaign to cover the density of air raids on rural #hama and use #chlorine _ poison against civilians.”

Hama is a completely different area to Idlib where Tuesday’s attack occurred.


etc.

Syria Gas Attack 'False Flag' Accusations And Why They're Totally Wrong | HuffPost UK