Symptoms Of A Totalitarian Police State. Does The USA Fit The Description?

[August West]

No where does it state that rights have no limits either. Rights have always had limits.

The Supreme Court`s Heller decision confirms that. People have a right to play with guns and civil people have a right to regulate them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The Supreme Court`s Heller decision confirms that. People have a right to play with guns and civil people have a right to regulate them.

No, it doesn't say that. I don't have time right now to explain, but I will.....

 

[August West]

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Hitler loosened gun regulations. The gun/criminal lobby has been feeding you people bullshit for several decades.

Gun Control in Germany, 1928-1945 - An Excerpt | The Mein Kampf Project at Christogenea.org

The following is an excerpt from the book of the same title, available from National Vanguard Books, PO Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA.Gun Control in Germany, 1928-1945by William L. PierceA common belief among defenders of the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is that the National...

mk.christogenea.org

 

[ActionJackson]

="frigidweirdo, post: 33141139, member: 47831"]
No, you don't have a 100% right to defend yourself. Imagine you're holding a mini nuclear device which could blow up a whole city. Someone pulls out a knife... are you allowed to "defend yourself" with that nuclear device?

Detonating a nuclear device within range of that device is not self-defense. That's suicide. But, apparently, nations believe that if opposing nations have nuclear devices then it's within their right to have them as well in defense of the nation. So, yes, I have a 100% right to defend myself.

With self defense there's often the "use of reasonable force" there. You can't go around shooting people just for the hell of it and claim they could have attacked you.

That's not self defense. That's outright murder.

Self defense has loads of limits.

My right to protect myself is limitless. Of course, these days a person can go to jail if he kills someone else while defending himself, but at least he's still alive, so his self-defense becomes warranted.

You don't have the "right to eat, drink and survive". Why? Because there's never been a need.

There's no need to eat or drink? Both are positively necessary to survive.

Rights are power taken from the powerful. It started with the Magna Carta in 1215 when King John had some of his powers taken from him by his rich people. Rights as a theory have changed since there, now we consider rights when EVERYBODY has them, otherwise they're a privilege, but this is relatively new with the Bill of Rights (sort of, even then there was slavery) and the US changing what England had made them.

The moment a baby is born, it starts right out seeking those things necessary to survive. The same is true with the animal kingdom. This quest to survive is built into our DNA.

Governments don't go around stopping people from eating and drinking food, in the general, so nobody's bothered to take the power to stop people from eating and drinking from them.

Ever hear of the Holodomor, where millions of ethnic Ukrainians were purposely starved to death by the Marxist Soviets in the early 1930s?

Rights are generally powers that governments will want to keep for themselves, but the people, or whoever, will want to stop the government from having.

Governments most certainly want to regulate rights, but that's because they love playing God. No matter what a government says, certain rights are not theirs to regulate.

 

[ActionJackson]

The Supreme Court`s Heller decision confirms that. People have a right to play with guns and civil people have a right to regulate them.

And intelligent people have the right to use them intelligently. Procuring food and defending oneself or family are two intelligent uses.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Democrats want to RULE WITH AN IRON FIST. Control every aspect of our lives. What we can think, say, do, buy, read, our right to disagree with them or dare even challenge their lies, corruption and cheating.

Teabagger projection.
That was Trump, moron.

Donald Trump calls Chinese President Xi Jinping 'brilliant ...​

The Economic Times
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Jul 20, 2023 — Donald Trump called Chinese President Xi Jinping “an exceptionally brilliant individual who governs 1.4 billion people with an iron fist.”.

Every teabagger accusation.........is an admission.

 

[Pellinore]

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Nazis weren't socialists. They called themselves "National Socialists," a term they made up, but their economy was determined by their fascism. The two are entirely incompatible.

August West has already pointed out that the Nazis loosened gun regulations during their time.

And several of the qualities the meme ascribes to Democrats lie somewhere between highly debatable and totally ridiculous.

Don't trust memes.

 

[ActionJackson]

Nazis weren't socialists. They called themselves "National Socialists," a term they made up, but their economy was determined by their fascism. The two are entirely incompatible.

August West has already pointed out that the Nazis loosened gun regulations during their time.

And several of the qualities the meme ascribes to Democrats lie somewhere between highly debatable and totally ridiculous.

Don't trust memes.

Fascism & Socialism are two sides of the same coin. In both cases, the ruling class controls the economy instead of the consumers and the free market.

 

[DBA]

I have no problem finding any information I look for. But then I live in reality.
That might be your problem.

Obvously you don’t live in reality. Yes, the US government actually spoke to private copanies and encouraged censoship that followed political lines. First, you have to admit that happened, then you have to be insightful enough to realize that it is dangerous and very much authoritarian.

 

[sparky]

So you DO believe the USA is a Police State?

well let's look at this from another angle , what is the metric for a free state?

When has the government shut your free speech down?

Our government uses the private market to do so, which it has a history of poorly regulating

Fascism & Socialism are two sides of the same coin. In both cases, the ruling class controls the economy instead of the consumers and the free market.

the disparity alone would indicate a corporatocracy , or what results in capitalism for the rich, socialism for the rest of us....


~S~

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Obvously you don’t live in reality. Yes, the US government actually spoke to private copanies and encouraged censoship that followed political lines. First, you have to admit that happened, then you have to be insightful enough to realize that it is dangerous and very much authoritarian.

Private companies are free to censor anyone who is not compliant with their standards, dupe.
Authoritarians wouldn’t bother with private companies.

 

[sparky]

Private companies are free to censor anyone who is not compliant with their standards, dupe.
Authoritarians wouldn’t bother with private companies.

yes , but DBA's point was the government coercing them to do so Hutch>

Supreme Court to decide if Biden admin illegally bullied social media into censoring content

The justices blocked an order preventing the White House from contacting social media companies about allegedly misleading posts involving Covid-19 and the 2020 election.

www.politico.com

“This is the worst First Amendment violation in our nation’s history. We look forward to dismantling Joe Biden’s vast censorship enterprise at the nation’s highest court,” Missouri’s Attorney General Andrew Bailey said in a statement.

~S~

 

[candycorn]

Symptoms Of A Totalitarian Police State. Does The USA Fit The Description?​

no.

Don't be stupid.

 

[ActionJackson]

no.

Don't be stupid.

^^ Coming from someone who does exactly what the government tells her to do. ^^

 

[candycorn]

^^ Coming from someone who does exactly what the government tells her to do. ^^

Gee, I obey the law. In Conservistan that is a bad thing, I guess.

 

[ActionJackson]

Gee, I obey the law. In Conservistan that is a bad thing, I guess.

I bet you wore your mask; social distanced; got the jab; and obeyed all the other totalitarian edicts. Obedience to despots is a disease.

 

[j-mac]

No where does the 2nd amendment indicate an age for gun ownership. Should we remove the gun detectors from our schools and let the students wear their six-shooters? Children have rights too!

During my childhood in Michigan, it was not uncommon for us to bring our rifles to school during hunting season, so that we could hit the woods after school....Today, people like you would freak the fuck out.....

 

[j-mac]

YOu conservative types got those first five nailed hands down, and I know fr a fact you're working on the rest as we speak. We must remove the banana republicans from our government if we want to survive as a country.

So, one party rule is what you're after?

 

[ActionJackson]

During my childhood in Michigan, it was not uncommon for us to bring our rifles to school during hunting season, so that we could hit the woods after school....Today, people like you would freak the fuck out.....

My friends and I used to carry our high-powered pellet guns down the street to the nearby riverbed. Nobody ever said a word. Today ... they'd call the SWAT team.

 

[j-mac]

We live in a time where people are punished for just stating their views. I'm a strong advocate of free speech but the government wants to shut it down.

How exactly have you personally been effected?