Surgeon General asked to step down by Donald Trump

[TheGreatGatsby]

Surgeon generals have been political arms and not advocates. The mere fact that they're appointed and not elected is a joke.

I do not think you will find many doctors willing to campaign for a political position; as you know political campaigns get quite nasty. There are few exceptions though like Jill Stein, Ben Carson, etc.

There are plenty of available candidates.

In my observation, certain professionals like doctors, engineers, scientists, etc. stay away from politics. On the other hand, it attracts quite a bit of lawyers, business owners, CEOs, etc.

But, in all fairness, I do not have any statistics on this subject so I will not press you too hard on this.

Surgeon general is not the same as being a lawmaker. There are plenty of doctors who would relish the opportunity to have a nationalized impact on health. There's just no shortage.

I think we are talking about two different issues. Someone (I thought it was you) suggested that surgeon generals should not be appointed; they should be elected. My comment was in response to that.

Surgeon generals should be elected. They serve the people in too important a capacity to not be elected and be beholden to a political machine. You're saying there are no doctors that would want to step up. I wholeheartedly reject that. Doctors often speak of surgeon general actions with great concern.

 

[RodISHI]

Biography of the Surgeon General | SurgeonGeneral.gov


Biography of the Surgeon General
Rear Admiral (RADM) Sylvia Trent-Adams, Ph.D., R.N., F.A.A.N.

Rear Admiral (RADM) Sylvia Trent-Adams serves as Acting Surgeon General.

During her time as Deputy Surgeon General, Rear Admiral (RADM) Sylvia Trent-Adams advised regarding operations of the U.S. Public Health Service (USPHS) Commissioned Corps and communicated the best available scientific information to advance the health of the nation. She served as the Chief Nurse Officer of the USPHS from November 2013 through May 2016. In this role, she advised the Office of the Surgeon General and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) on the recruitment, assignment, deployment, retention, and career development of Corps nurse professionals.

RADM Trent-Adams has held various positions in HHS, working to improve access to care for poor and underserved communities. As a clinician and administrator, she has had a direct impact on building systems of care to improve public health for marginalized populations domestically and internationally.

Prior to joining the Office of the Surgeon General, RADM Sylvia Trent-Adams was the Deputy Associate Administrator for the HIV/AIDS Bureau (HAB), Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA). She assisted in managing the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009 (Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program). The $2.3 billion program funds medical care, treatment, referrals and support services for uninsured and underserved people living with HIV disease as well as training for health care professionals.

RADM Trent-Adams began her career in the Commissioned Corps of the USPHS in 1992. She has published numerous articles, participated in research studies, and presented to a variety of domestic and international organizations and professional groups. Prior to joining the USPHS, RADM Trent-Adams was a nurse officer in the U.S. Army. She also served as a research nurse at the University of Maryland. RADM Trent-Adams also completed two internships in the U.S. Senate where she focused on the prospective payment system for skilled nursing facilities and scope of practice for nurses and psychologists. She has served as guest lecturer at the University of Maryland and Hampton University. Her clinical practice was in trauma, oncology, community health, and infectious disease. She has also served as the Chair of the Federal Public Health Nurse Leadership Council, and the Federal Nursing Service Council.

RADM Trent-Adams received her Bachelor of Science in Nursing from Hampton University, a Master of Science in Nursing and Health Policy from the University of Maryland, Baltimore, and a Doctor of Philosophy from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. She became a Fellow in the American Academy of Nursing in 2014.

 

[Vikrant]

^ She looks awesome.

 

[RodISHI]

^ She looks awesome.

Wiki has a lot of info on things she has done already. The one thing I couldn't find is if she was born in the US.

 

[Vikrant]

It looks like I finally got to the bottom of the issue.

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Trump Fires Surgeon General Who Called Gun Violence a Public Health Issue

President Trump asked Obama-administration–holdover Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy to resign, getting rid of a staunch advocate for the Affordable Care Act who has long called for stronger gun control. He was replaced by his deputy, Rear Adm. Sylvia Trent-Adams, who is now one of the first nurses to serve as surgeon general. The Department of Health and Human Services thanked Murthy for his service and his help on a “smooth transition into the new Trump administration.”

The reasons for the abrupt dismissal weren’t immediately clear, but the New York Times says “employees at the Department of Health and Human Services privately expressed surprise at his sudden departure.” Although it’s not unprecedented, it’s highly unusual for a surgeon general’s four-year term to be cut short. What is known is that the gun lobby was no fan of Murthy, who has for years insisted that gun violence should be classified as a public health threat. In fact, the National Rifle Association called on the Senate not to confirm him in 2014. Murthy also raised warnings against the explosion of e-cigarette use, especially among teenagers.

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Trump Fires Surgeon General Who Called Gun Violence a Public Health Issue

 

[Vikrant]

It seems like he was quite an idealist.

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For now, Murthy is keeping things diplomatic and not commenting on the reasons why he was asked to leave. He posted a statement on Facebook thanking “America for the privilege of a lifetime.” He also outlines four lessons he learned while on the job:

1. Kindness is more than a virtue. It is a source of strength. If we teach our children to be kind and remind each other of the same, we can live from a place of strength, not fear. I have seen this strength manifest every day in the words and actions of people all across our great nation. It is what gives me hope that we can heal during challenging times.

2. We will only be successful in addressing addiction – and other illnesses – when we recognize the humanity within each of us. People are more than their disease. All of us are more than our worst mistakes. We must ensure our nation always reflects a fundamental value: every life matters.

3. Healing happens when we are able to truly talk to and connect with each other. That means listening and understanding. It means assuming good, not the worst. It means pausing before we judge. Building a more connected America will require us to find new ways to talk to each other.

4. The world is locked in a struggle between love and fear. Choose love. Always. It is the world's oldest medicine. It is what we need to build a nation that is safe and strong for us and our children.

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Trump Fires Surgeon General Who Called Gun Violence a Public Health Issue

 

[S.J.]

I am just trying to pin point what was the difference that put Surgeon General Murthy at odd with President Trump.

If Trump asked him to step down simply because he did not endorse Trump's view on vaccines then this dismissal was wrong. However, if there were other differences such as euthanasia, abortion, etc. then I understand.

Maybe it had something to do with all the leaks coming from the Obama holdovers.

Either way, Trump should have secured his replacement first before asking him to step down.

I don't think that office is quite that crucial. I mean, it's not like he's leaving the DOD without any leadership. They can afford to leave it vacant for a little while without any negative ramifications.

 

[Care4all]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

 

[Vikrant]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

You make a good point. I think Trump needs to come to terms with the fact that competent people are not going to be yes men.

 

[Vikrant]

I am just trying to pin point what was the difference that put Surgeon General Murthy at odd with President Trump.

If Trump asked him to step down simply because he did not endorse Trump's view on vaccines then this dismissal was wrong. However, if there were other differences such as euthanasia, abortion, etc. then I understand.

Maybe it had something to do with all the leaks coming from the Obama holdovers.

Either way, Trump should have secured his replacement first before asking him to step down.

I don't think that office is quite that crucial. I mean, it's not like he's leaving the DOD without any leadership. They can afford to leave it vacant for a little while without any negative ramifications.

I think someone pointed Trump to this web page:

Doctors for Obama

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

Sounds like the person he just fired. Well, I'm glad we got rid of that "problem."

 

[S.J.]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

You "think"? You'll have to do better than that.

 

[Care4all]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

You "think"? You'll have to do better than that.

How would any American view it?

He's wiped out every agency and Department workers including people who have worked in those agencies for 30 to 40 years thru R and D administrations, ALL BEFORE he hired their replacements....

Trump actually suffers from paranoia, that everyone he hasn't picked is out to get him, even Career workers.

 

[miketx]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

You "think"? You'll have to do better than that.

How would any American view it?

He's wiped out every agency and Department workers including people who have worked in those agencies for 30 to 40 years thru R and D administrations, ALL BEFORE he hired their replacements....

Trump actually suffers from paranoia, that everyone he hasn't picked is out to get him, even Career workers.

Trump is actually doing what he said he would do, getting rid of the parasites. The obama appointees all the need to go. Stop crying for Christs sake.

 

[Unkotare]

Is the OP trying to look down on nurses?

 

[Iceweasel]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

...and that didn't happen with Obama? I don't think you understand what cabinet positions are.

 

[gipper]

Trump went ahead and replaced a doctor with a nurse? Why?

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Murthy, 39, has been replaced by his deputy, Rear Admiral Sylvia Trent-Adams, one of the first nurses to serve as surgeon general.

"Murthy, the leader of the US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps, was asked to resign from his duties as Surgeon General after assisting in a smooth transition into the new Trump administration," the US Department of Health and Human Services said in a statement yesterday.

"Murthy has been relieved of his duties as Surgeon General and will continue to serve as a member of the Commissioned Corps," the statement said.

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Indian-American Surgeon General asked to step down by Donald Trump administration - Times of India

Did the Dr believe in vaccinations ?

I did not know Trump was against vaccinations.

Anyone that believes in this shit is deserving of the darwin award.

Yeah...because we all know the State is NEVER wrong.

You would have done so will in Nazi Germany.

 

[gipper]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

...and that didn't happen with Obama? I don't think you understand what cabinet positions are.

Everything about Obama was partisan but his kooky miscreant sycophants like Care4Me, can't see it.

 

[Care4all]

Good ridiancece to anohter obumble appointed

... but he has no replacement for him. He needs to find replacement first before asking people to step down.

More important to purge every one of Obama's sycophants from all positions in his administration because every one of his appointees were appointed based on their willingness to carry out his political agenda and nothing else.

I think it makes it appear like trump's appointees are going to be nothing but partisan yes men and our govt can't be trusted with him in there, if he thinks everyone is simply working as a partisan, instead of actually doing the job we pay them for...

...and that didn't happen with Obama? I don't think you understand what cabinet positions are.

Obama did not fire all the appointees from Bush untll he found and hired their replacements. AND he kept the career workers who worked thru several presidents, AND he did keep some Bush appointments....and the prosecutors hired by Bush working on cases he let stay until their cases were finished....

 

[Unkotare]

How many people actually give a shit about what the SG says?

The Surgeon Colonel?