Supreme Court likely to allow Obamacare to stand.

[dblack]

Regardless of the legal details, it seems obvious that Democrats will push for more state control of our health care. That, to me, seems like a bad idea without broad consensus. As it stands, half the country simply doesn't want that and Dems need to respect their views if they actually want to lead the whole nation, and not just their base.

 

[esalla]

Its an example of one court reversing another court.

No, it's an example of a higher court overruling a lower court. Regardless, your words were " unless the supreme court reverses itself ".

And since the courts are just one big illegal deep state joke that dickturds like you think mean something rational. Proof, jurors are not allowed to have a dictionary in the juror room because only ignorance is allowed

Now you're just slipping around in your own shit, trying to save face. Like it or not, we generally agree politically. You're just being a contentious jackass because I've shown your errors here.

Lol, you are a typical mental 8 year old who believes that this board has some great and grand purpose. The fact is that nothing here means squat. The fact is that biden won and can not do what he and you both said that he will, and nothing said or not said here effects anything in that regard, so keep your perspective admiral.

 

[Orangecat]

Lol, you are a typical mental 8 year old who believes that this board has some great and grand purpose.

Incorrect again, dumbass.

The fact is that nothing here means squat.

Double negative means the opposite of what you intended, fool.

The fact is that biden won and can not do what he and you both said that he will, and nothing said or not said here effects anything in that regard, so keep your perspective admiral.

More babbling from you. Is your real name Brook?

 

[esalla]

Lol, you are a typical mental 8 year old who believes that this board has some great and grand purpose.

Incorrect again, dumbass.

The fact is that nothing here means squat.

Double negative means the opposite of what you intended, fool.

The fact is that biden won and can not do what he and you both said that he will, and nothing said or not said here effects anything in that regard, so keep your perspective admiral.

More babbling from you. Is your real name Brook?

Again I am humbled that you are so enamored with me.
Sorry that you are a childish ass that does everything that you are told.

 

[Orangecat]

Again I am humbled that you are so enamored with me.

Mocking your stupidity isn't being "enamored".

Sorry that you are a childish ass that does everything that you are told.

The only thing sorry here is your pathetic attempts at trolling.

 

[esalla]

Again I am humbled that you are so enamored with me.

Mocking your stupidity isn't being "enamored".

Sorry that you are a childish ass that does everything that you are told.

The only thing sorry here is your pathetic attempts at trolling.

Lol ask again if biden can reinstate the mandate that was declared unconstitutional.

And please stop trolling, even though you are rather funny

 

[Orangecat]

Lol ask again if biden can reinstate the mandate that was declared unconstitutional.

Lol, tell me again how the SCOTUS will reverse itself on a decision it never made.

 

[Flash]

Elections have consequences.

When these nitwits elected Obama in 2008 and those asshole Democrats to the Senate and House then they enabled the disastrous laws that followed.

That also goes for the Republicans that elected the two RINOs that voted cloture to allow the vote to go to the full Senate knowing it would pass the filthy ass Democrat majority. Of course they voted against it on the floor then but it was too late.

I suspect the Conservatives on the Supreme Court will say that if you don't want terrible laws like Obamacare then don't elect the Democrats or RINOs that pass terrible laws.

Of course those two dingbats that Obama appointed will vote their typical Moon Bat way.

 

[dblack]

Elections have consequences.

This is exactly the justification used by Dems to slam ACA through in the first place. The only consequence of an election should be who is elected. We have to stop legislating based on slim, partisan majorities.

 

[esalla]

Lol ask again if biden can reinstate the mandate that was declared unconstitutional.

Lol, tell me again how the SCOTUS will reverse itself on a decision it never made.

Again if biden is to reinstate the mandate the supreme court will have to reverse the courts ruling.

Not my fault that you can not accept this

 

[Orangecat]

Again if biden is to reinstate the mandate the supreme court will have to reverse the courts ruling.

You said the supreme court would have to reverse itself. That is incorrect.
Your stubborn ignorance doesn't change that fact.

 

[esalla]

Again if biden is to reinstate the mandate the supreme court will have to reverse the courts ruling.

You said the supreme court would have to reverse itself. That is incorrect.
Your stubborn ignorance doesn't change that fact.

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The real question is do you matter

Nope

Now go burn a target retard

 

[dblack]

It would at least be nice to see the Court strike down the mandate. Elected leaders shouldn't be allowed force us to buy things from their cronies.

The court can not strike down the mandate because it no longer exist

Yes it does. The penalty was reduced to zero, for now, but the mandate is still on the books. Republicans didn't have the balls to repeal it.

The court has already declared the mandate unconstitutional, so Biden can not reinstate it unless the supreme court rules that the mandate is constitutional. Really simple Biden has no power to do what he says

BREAKING: Fifth Circuit Declares Individual Mandate Unconstitutional, Punts on Whether Rest of ACA Must Fall (Updated)

As if there wasn't enough going on this week, a federal appellate court issues a significant (and significantly flawed) ruling in the latest Obamacare challenge

reason.com

From the article you linked to:

In short, a divided panel decided that the courts have jurisdiction to hear the case and the appeal, the individual mandate is unconstitutional because Congress' decision to zero out the penalty means that it may no longer be construed as a tax, and that the question of severability is complex and difficult and must be reconsidered by the district court.

This implies that all that is needed to make it constitutional again is to reinstate the penalty, thus making it (in the eyes of Roberts) a tax.

 

[esalla]

It would at least be nice to see the Court strike down the mandate. Elected leaders shouldn't be allowed force us to buy things from their cronies.

The court can not strike down the mandate because it no longer exist

Yes it does. The penalty was reduced to zero, for now, but the mandate is still on the books. Republicans didn't have the balls to repeal it.

The court has already declared the mandate unconstitutional, so Biden can not reinstate it unless the supreme court rules that the mandate is constitutional. Really simple Biden has no power to do what he says

BREAKING: Fifth Circuit Declares Individual Mandate Unconstitutional, Punts on Whether Rest of ACA Must Fall (Updated)

As if there wasn't enough going on this week, a federal appellate court issues a significant (and significantly flawed) ruling in the latest Obamacare challenge

reason.com

From the article you linked to:

In short, a divided panel decided that the courts have jurisdiction to hear the case and the appeal, the individual mandate is unconstitutional because Congress' decision to zero out the penalty means that it may no longer be construed as a tax, and that the question of severability is complex and difficult and must be reconsidered by the district court.

This implies that all that is needed to make it constitutional again is to reinstate the penalty, thus making it (in the eyes of Roberts) a tax.

Except the court now belongs to thomas

Roberts is a fucking commy

 

[Orangecat]

The real question is do you matter

Real questions end with question marks, dumbass.

Now go burn a target retard

I'm still burning the "target retard" called "esalla".
Commas: look into them or continue to look like an uneducated dipstick.

 

[dblack]

It would at least be nice to see the Court strike down the mandate. Elected leaders shouldn't be allowed force us to buy things from their cronies.

The court can not strike down the mandate because it no longer exist

Yes it does. The penalty was reduced to zero, for now, but the mandate is still on the books. Republicans didn't have the balls to repeal it.

The court has already declared the mandate unconstitutional, so Biden can not reinstate it unless the supreme court rules that the mandate is constitutional. Really simple Biden has no power to do what he says

BREAKING: Fifth Circuit Declares Individual Mandate Unconstitutional, Punts on Whether Rest of ACA Must Fall (Updated)

As if there wasn't enough going on this week, a federal appellate court issues a significant (and significantly flawed) ruling in the latest Obamacare challenge

reason.com

From the article you linked to:

In short, a divided panel decided that the courts have jurisdiction to hear the case and the appeal, the individual mandate is unconstitutional because Congress' decision to zero out the penalty means that it may no longer be construed as a tax, and that the question of severability is complex and difficult and must be reconsidered by the district court.

This implies that all that is needed to make it constitutional again is to reinstate the penalty, thus making it (in the eyes of Roberts) a tax.

Except the court now belongs to thomas

Right. And Thomas would have to write another decision to actually reverse the original ruling on the mandate. Not saying he couldn't do it - and I hope he does - but what I've been saying is correct. All Dems have to do is crank the penalty for the mandate back up and it's all "good".

 

[esalla]

The real question is do you matter

Real questions end with question marks, dumbass.

Now go burn a target retard

I'm still burning the "target retard" called "esalla".
Commas: look into them or continue to look like an uneducated dipstick.

Lol you sound like one of those simpletons at corkys fbi

Are u corky

He he he

 

[esalla]

It would at least be nice to see the Court strike down the mandate. Elected leaders shouldn't be allowed force us to buy things from their cronies.

The court can not strike down the mandate because it no longer exist

Yes it does. The penalty was reduced to zero, for now, but the mandate is still on the books. Republicans didn't have the balls to repeal it.

The court has already declared the mandate unconstitutional, so Biden can not reinstate it unless the supreme court rules that the mandate is constitutional. Really simple Biden has no power to do what he says

BREAKING: Fifth Circuit Declares Individual Mandate Unconstitutional, Punts on Whether Rest of ACA Must Fall (Updated)

As if there wasn't enough going on this week, a federal appellate court issues a significant (and significantly flawed) ruling in the latest Obamacare challenge

reason.com

From the article you linked to:

In short, a divided panel decided that the courts have jurisdiction to hear the case and the appeal, the individual mandate is unconstitutional because Congress' decision to zero out the penalty means that it may no longer be construed as a tax, and that the question of severability is complex and difficult and must be reconsidered by the district court.

This implies that all that is needed to make it constitutional again is to reinstate the penalty, thus making it (in the eyes of Roberts) a tax.

The penalty can not be reinstated by Biden because the courts ruled it unconstitutional and for the record the mandate, penalty or o care tax are all the same thing

 

[Orangecat]

Lol you sound like one of those simpletons at corkys fbi

You sound like a butthurt moron. Probably because you are one.

 

[dblack]

It would at least be nice to see the Court strike down the mandate. Elected leaders shouldn't be allowed force us to buy things from their cronies.

The court can not strike down the mandate because it no longer exist

Yes it does. The penalty was reduced to zero, for now, but the mandate is still on the books. Republicans didn't have the balls to repeal it.

The court has already declared the mandate unconstitutional, so Biden can not reinstate it unless the supreme court rules that the mandate is constitutional. Really simple Biden has no power to do what he says

BREAKING: Fifth Circuit Declares Individual Mandate Unconstitutional, Punts on Whether Rest of ACA Must Fall (Updated)

As if there wasn't enough going on this week, a federal appellate court issues a significant (and significantly flawed) ruling in the latest Obamacare challenge

reason.com

From the article you linked to:

In short, a divided panel decided that the courts have jurisdiction to hear the case and the appeal, the individual mandate is unconstitutional because Congress' decision to zero out the penalty means that it may no longer be construed as a tax, and that the question of severability is complex and difficult and must be reconsidered by the district court.

This implies that all that is needed to make it constitutional again is to reinstate the penalty, thus making it (in the eyes of Roberts) a tax.

The penalty can not be reinstated by Biden because the courts ruled it unconstitutional and for the record the mandate, penalty or o care tax are all the same thing

I've read nothing supporting that view. The law is still on the books. A court ruling a law unconstitutional does doesn't repeal the law, it just means it can't be enforced. If the law is modified, such that it is constitutional, it can once again be enforced. Congress can crank the penalty back up any time they can get the votes, which is why the GA runoffs are so important.