Student Behavior: "We're At a Crisis Point"--NEA

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The abysmal decline in student behavior is a crisis. However much we talk about it, we don't talk about it enough. I read something stark on social media, but it's so true: in 2025, the very worst behavior in the classroom holds everyone else hostage.

This is slightly overstated, but only slightly: we MUST stop negotiating with terrorists in education. Because yes. When a child beats down others, spits, hits, kicks, throws things and destroys classrooms, they should not get a pass because they have trauma, "Big feelings", are dysregulated, or have "Special needs". They are terrorizing others. Felonies are felonies. And no, I'm not talking about what consequences are appropriate. I don't even care about consequences at this point. I just want us to acknowledge, as a society, that this is unacceptable, and it is harmful.

And it's not just me saying this. See below. I wonder all the time the stories kids will tell in 10, 15, 20 years, of how they saw the most violent behavior in school and no one did or said a thing. It will be blistering.

Student behavior has nearly overtaken pay as the top concern among educators—and it’s driving some out of the profession.

Today, 4 out of 5 teachers and education support professionals find student behavior to be a serious problem, according to an NEA nationwide poll of 2,889 educators on student mental health conducted last year. Some 81 percent of educators surveyed said students are acting out and misbehaving.

The result for educators? Stress, burnout, and persistent staffing shortages. In a 2024 survey by the RAND Corporation, funded in part by NEA, 44 percent of teachers cited student behavior as the top source of job-related stress.

In a study by Pew Research that same year, 80 percent of teachers reported they have to address students’ behavioral problems “at least a few times a week,” with 58 percent saying this happens every day.
 
There are no, "Big Feelings". That is just called out-of-control rage.

It stops when there are real-life consequences for the behavior. Consequences that OTHERS see. It used to be called, "Making an example" of someone to deter the behavior.

There is a life truth that people seem to have forgotten.

If you tolerate bad behavior, you just get more of it.
 
There are no, "Big Feelings". That is just called out-of-control rage.

It stops when there are real-life consequences for the behavior. Consequences that OTHERS see. It used to be called, "Making an example" of someone to deter the behavior.

There is a life truth that people seem to have forgotten.

If you tolerate bad behavior, you just get more of it.

Before I left, my school had TWO--yes, TWO--full time social workers. This was the garbage they spewed. We have a head social worker, the district "guru", who told me to my face that violence from kids doesn't bother her, as they're just "expressing feelings". I explained we are teaching children how to excuse future domestic violence: "Oh, he was just having big feelings. He had a big day".

She stared at me. Stupidly. Blank look. Just stared.
 
Before I left, my school had TWO--yes, TWO--full time social workers. This was the garbage they spewed. We have a head social worker, the district "guru", who told me to my face that violence from kids doesn't bother her, as they're just "expressing feelings". I explained we are teaching children how to excuse future domestic violence: "Oh, he was just having big feelings. He had a big day".

She stared at me. Stupidly. Blank look. Just stared.
I'm not surprised that they never make that connection. They'll scream 'domestic abuse' out of one side of their face, and 'they're just kids' out of the other. Never making the connection that the bad behavior starting at age 10 leads to battered women, or violence that gets people killed when they are 25, 35, 45, and every year in between.

It's like discussing the SNAP thing in terms of dependence.

Their argument is, "People are not being made dependent upon government to live."

And then one little squabble by the politicians shuts down the government, and everyone is screaming, "They will starve without government!"

If it wasn't so saddening, I'd be amused by the number of hoops they jump through to say they are not related.
 
My Teutonic ***** of a 3rd grade teacher (Mrs. Stein) made liberal use of a 14" heavy wood ruler. She carried it about everywhere she went and was not afraid to use it.

Elsa, the She Wolf of the 3rd Grade ;)
Did it work? From My vantage, I'd say no.


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My Teutonic ***** of a 3rd grade teacher (Mrs. Stein) made liberal use of a 14" heavy wood ruler. She carried it about everywhere she went and was not afraid to use it.

Elsa, the She Wolf of the 3rd Grade ;)
Our 7th grade gym teacher used a wooden paddle.
I felt it's sting just once.

Some kids need an occasional whack.
 
I never had a teacher hit me or do anything physical to control my behavior, until junior high when I got pops for not wearing white socks in gym.

Didn't have to. Those ladies were in charge. They reminded me of my mom, whose phone number they had. If they had called her about any misbehavior, I would have had some really "big feelings" when I got home.

No sense taking a whoopin' every day, so I kept in line.
 
My Teutonic ***** of a 3rd grade teacher (Mrs. Stein) made liberal use of a 14" heavy wood ruler. She carried it about everywhere she went and was not afraid to use it.

Elsa, the She Wolf of the 3rd Grade ;)

Not a fan of this either, not even close. But these days, kids have special plans, protected by law, which tell teachers how we may speak to them. Some of them say we can't tell their kids no. I'm not kidding.
 
I'm not surprised that they never make that connection. They'll scream 'domestic abuse' out of one side of their face, and 'they're just kids' out of the other. Never making the connection that the bad behavior starting at age 10 leads to battered women, or violence that gets people killed when they are 25, 35, 45, and every year in between.

It's like discussing the SNAP thing in terms of dependence.

Their argument is, "People are not being made dependent upon government to live."

And then one little squabble by the politicians shuts down the government, and everyone is screaming, "They will starve without government!"

If it wasn't so saddening, I'd be amused by the number of hoops they jump through to say they are not related.

We are forcing children to witness domestic violence in school. Absolutely. And then we excuse it.
 
Our 7th grade gym teacher used a wooden paddle.
I felt it's sting just once.

Some kids need an occasional whack.

No, not whacking. I'm not their parent, and I don't want to do that. But REAL consequences and REAL rules that can be enforced. And yes, teacher in a position of authority. Caring authority, but authority.
 
I never had a teacher hit me or do anything physical to control my behavior, until junior high when I got pops for not wearing white socks in gym.

Didn't have to. Those ladies were in charge. They reminded me of my mom, whose phone number they had. If they had called her about any misbehavior, I would have had some really "big feelings" when I got home.

No sense taking a whoopin' every day, so I kept in line.
That is just it. The consequences have to be such that the individual who won't conform will have to decide if the pain is worth the defiance.
 
I never had a teacher hit me or do anything physical to control my behavior, until junior high when I got pops for not wearing white socks in gym.

Didn't have to. Those ladies were in charge. They reminded me of my mom, whose phone number they had. If they had called her about any misbehavior, I would have had some really "big feelings" when I got home.

No sense taking a whoopin' every day, so I kept in line.

Just before I retired in public schools, I did not even have authority over my own body. If I had told a child, "Do not hit me. Do not touch me. Do not hit me", I would have been scolded.

It's a horror show really.....I feel like I'm detoxing from it, and that's the truth.
 
Just before I retired in public schools, I did not even have authority over my own body. If I had told a child, "Do not hit me. Do not touch me. Do not hit me", I would have been scolded.

It's a horror show really.....I feel like I'm detoxing from it, and that's the truth.
Bullshit.
 
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Before I left, my school had TWO--yes, TWO--full time social workers. This was the garbage they spewed. We have a head social worker, the district "guru", who told me to my face that violence from kids doesn't bother her, as they're just "expressing feelings". I explained we are teaching children how to excuse future domestic violence: "Oh, he was just having big feelings. He had a big day".

She stared at me. Stupidly. Blank look. Just stared.
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Great point. Those kids are on the domestic violence train, and heading for the prison train.

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Congratulations on retirement. How long now?

Thank you! I retired on Nov 1st. I adored teaching for so long--it wasn't just what I did; it's who I WAS. I knew it was taking a toll though, and had been for a number of years. I had no idea how much of a toll. Sadly, not a single shred of me misses it now.
 
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