Student Behavior: "We're At a Crisis Point"--NEA

[Winco]

The abysmal decline in student behavior is a crisis.

I've read repeatedly on this site, that this bad behavior is the result of terrible teachers and teacher Unions.
That's what they are saying.
Always blame the Public School Teacher.

 

[sparky]

Thank you! I retired on Nov 1st. I adored teaching for so long--it wasn't just what I did; it's who I WAS. I knew it was taking a toll though, and had been for a number of years. I had no idea how much of a toll. Sadly, not a single shred of me misses it now.

Thx for your service Sue.....now go tip a few.....ya kinda sound like ya need it...... ~S~

 

[DGS49]

We run schools like a customer service model now. To some extent that's not a bad thing, but teachers can not tailor their entire instruction/attention for one student, and that's what today's parents expect. So imagine a Prefect of Discipline calling a parent and the parent, denies and deflects. We even have some parents who say, "Between the hours of 8-3 the kid is your kid. Don't call me."

--Really

The Prefect of Discipline calling a parent was unimaginable. Our parents gave us over totally to the staff and faculty of the school. The Prefect had Carte Blanche to do whatever he thought was necessary, and parents presumed that it was the Right Thing to Do.

 

[fncceo]

I support extremely late-term abortion.

In the 144th month.

 

[HikerGuy83]

My Teutonic ***** of a 3rd grade teacher (Mrs. Stein) made liberal use of a 14" heavy wood ruler. She carried it about everywhere she went and was not afraid to use it.

Elsa, the She Wolf of the 3rd Grade

Like many kids of my days, we'd tell the administration.....

Please beat me black and blue.

Just don't tell my parents what I did.

Because as bad as you'll clobber me......

They will triple it.

 

[excalibur]

My Teutonic ***** of a 3rd grade teacher (Mrs. Stein) made liberal use of a 14" heavy wood ruler. She carried it about everywhere she went and was not afraid to use it.

Elsa, the She Wolf of the 3rd Grade

My 3rd grade teacher was known for rapping knuckles with a large, heavy ruler. I managed to avoid that, having been dutifully warned by two older brothers about her. I was an in her class.

 

[Concerned American]

The abysmal decline in student behavior is a crisis. However much we talk about it, we don't talk about it enough. I read something stark on social media, but it's so true: in 2025, the very worst behavior in the classroom holds everyone else hostage.

This is slightly overstated, but only slightly: we MUST stop negotiating with terrorists in education. Because yes. When a child beats down others, spits, hits, kicks, throws things and destroys classrooms, they should not get a pass because they have trauma, "Big feelings", are dysregulated, or have "Special needs". They are terrorizing others. Felonies are felonies. And no, I'm not talking about what consequences are appropriate. I don't even care about consequences at this point. I just want us to acknowledge, as a society, that this is unacceptable, and it is harmful.

And it's not just me saying this. See below. I wonder all the time the stories kids will tell in 10, 15, 20 years, of how they saw the most violent behavior in school and no one did or said a thing. It will be blistering.

Student behavior has nearly overtaken pay as the top concern among educators—and it’s driving some out of the profession.

Today, 4 out of 5 teachers and education support professionals find student behavior to be a serious problem, according to an NEA nationwide poll of 2,889 educators on student mental health conducted last year. Some 81 percent of educators surveyed said students are acting out and misbehaving.

The result for educators? Stress, burnout, and persistent staffing shortages. In a 2024 survey by the RAND Corporation, funded in part by NEA, 44 percent of teachers cited student behavior as the top source of job-related stress.

In a study by Pew Research that same year, 80 percent of teachers reported they have to address students’ behavioral problems “at least a few times a week,” with 58 percent saying this happens every day.

The Survey Says: ‘We’re at a Crisis Point’ | NEA

Educators seek comprehensive solutions to address student behavior problems.

www.nea.org

As one of the last generation to attend schools with corporal punishment, I believe removing the 'board of education' as a potential option in discipline was a mistake. I had my feet lifted off the ground on numerous occasions during my school years. I was never abused and the board was never applied when I didn't deserve it and I don't have any pervasive ill effects from its application. I believe that sparing the rod does, in fact, spoil the child.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I had a teacher hit me when I was in the third grade. She put me in the hospital for a YEAR. After that I got too mean. No one ever hit me again.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Like many kids of my days, we'd tell the administration.....

Please beat me black and blue.

Just don't tell my parents what I did.

Because as bad as you'll clobber me......

They will triple it.

Yes, and probably run off afterwards to ****.

As one of the last generation to attend schools with corporal punishment, I believe removing the 'board of education' as a potential option in discipline was a mistake. I had my feet lifted off the ground on numerous occasions during my school years. I was never abused and the board was never applied when I didn't deserve it and I don't have any pervasive ill effects from its application. I believe that sparing the rod does, in fact, spoil the child.

Did you rub one out as you typed that?

Any adult that hits a child-in any way, shape, or form, under any circumstances other than immediate self-defense, even once-should be publicly and horribly tortured to death. The vivisectionists should be paid by the hour and the decibel based on screaming, with the goal being for the abuser to last at least a year.

 

[Concerned American]

I've read repeatedly on this site, that this bad behavior is the result of terrible teachers and teacher Unions.
That's what they are saying.
Always blame the Public School Teacher.

Only you, Winnie, only you.

 

[SweetSue92]

I wonder how often they beat on children just because they could.

I also wonder how often they slipped off to the rest room afterwards to rub one out.



Some people just LIKE hurting children.

It's amazing to me that the same crowd constantly harping on "indoctrination" actually WANTS govt employees to beat on their child. Right. Don't talk to my child about sexuality, but here's a paddle with holes. Go for it.

Make it make sense, anyone

 

[22lcidw]

I've read repeatedly on this site, that this bad behavior is the result of terrible teachers and teacher Unions.
That's what they are saying.
Always blame the Public School Teacher.

It's that it cost hundreds of times more today for the same behaviors in many areas that existed in the past. These were your answers for perfection that we do not have.

 

[sparky]

Make it make sense, anyone

our lovely mental health community's shill doctrines Sue.......~S~

 

[Unkotare]

I was speaking to a mom of one of my youngest's classmates yesterday. She used to teach in a district like the one where I do, and noted that teachers who only ever taught in wealthy suburbs have very different ideas about what constitutes "behavior problems" and how to address them. Different experiences result in different points of view.

"We can't say 'no' to the children." "Six-year-olds are so scary!"

 

[Correll]

The abysmal decline in student behavior is a crisis. However much we talk about it, we don't talk about it enough. I read something stark on social media, but it's so true: in 2025, the very worst behavior in the classroom holds everyone else hostage.

This is slightly overstated, but only slightly: we MUST stop negotiating with terrorists in education. Because yes. When a child beats down others, spits, hits, kicks, throws things and destroys classrooms, they should not get a pass because they have trauma, "Big feelings", are dysregulated, or have "Special needs". They are terrorizing others. Felonies are felonies. And no, I'm not talking about what consequences are appropriate. I don't even care about consequences at this point. I just want us to acknowledge, as a society, that this is unacceptable, and it is harmful.

And it's not just me saying this. See below. I wonder all the time the stories kids will tell in 10, 15, 20 years, of how they saw the most violent behavior in school and no one did or said a thing. It will be blistering.

Student behavior has nearly overtaken pay as the top concern among educators—and it’s driving some out of the profession.

Today, 4 out of 5 teachers and education support professionals find student behavior to be a serious problem, according to an NEA nationwide poll of 2,889 educators on student mental health conducted last year. Some 81 percent of educators surveyed said students are acting out and misbehaving.

The result for educators? Stress, burnout, and persistent staffing shortages. In a 2024 survey by the RAND Corporation, funded in part by NEA, 44 percent of teachers cited student behavior as the top source of job-related stress.

In a study by Pew Research that same year, 80 percent of teachers reported they have to address students’ behavioral problems “at least a few times a week,” with 58 percent saying this happens every day.

The Survey Says: ‘We’re at a Crisis Point’ | NEA

Educators seek comprehensive solutions to address student behavior problems.

www.nea.org

I work with a woman who left special education after 22 years. She has mutiple injuries that will, ARE causing degenerative issues that will reduce her quality of life for the rest of her life, if not actually reducing it.

IMO, we need to end the confidentialty for children IMMEDIATELY because it is being used by evil assholes to hide the cost of their evil policies.


THEN we need to investigate how bad the situation is, and purge education of these fucktards immediately and permanently.

 

[SweetSue92]

I work with a woman who left special education after 22 years. She has mutiple injuries that will, ARE causing degenerative issues that will reduce her quality of life for the rest of her life, if not actually reducing it.

IMO, we need to end the confidentialty for children IMMEDIATELY because it is being used by evil assholes to hide the cost of their evil policies.


THEN we need to investigate how bad the situation is, and purge education of these fucktards immediately and permanently.

So yes. The pendulum has swung too far.

Special needs children who are violent are protected by rigorous federal and state laws. Children who are not special needs have basically no protection whatsoever.

 

[sparky]

THEN we need to investigate how bad the situation is, and purge education of these fucktards immediately and permanently.

~S~

 

[Correll]

So yes. The pendulum has swung too far.

Special needs children who are violent are protected by rigorous federal and state laws. Children who are not special needs have basically no protection whatsoever.

Every now and again, a vid surfaces of an example of... that... and people are shocked.

BUt the real questions are never asked, such as how the **** long was that going on, before it ended up on video? What was it like not on that day, but the 5 weeks before that?

The asshole teachers and administrators who signed off on letting those violent thugs in the same schools as innocent children, what are their names and let's look at the records of their administrations and how ******* bad it is. And how many children have suffered because of it.

 

[sparky]

Children who are not special needs have basically no protection whatsoever.

No $$$ in them Sue

~S~

 

[HikerGuy83]

Any adult that hits a child-in any way, shape, or form, under any circumstances other than immediate self-defense, even once-should be publicly and horribly tortured to death.

GFY

The vivisectionists should be paid by the hour and the decibel based on screaming, with the goal being for the abuser to last at least a year.

Enjoy your fantasy.