ST's BP Rantings

[HUGGY]

Well, there will THOUSANDS of such threads on this... as the LEFT tries to use this as a means to control energy production, thus socializing the means of industry...

Of which there will be THOUSANDS of Leftist position refuted, discredited and otherwise exposed as invalid Progressive, anti-American drivel.

So..your response is to stake out the leftists position?

Some of you people are certifiably bat shit crazy... Just sayin..

 

[PatekPhilippe]

If the U.S. had required something called an "acoustic switch" to be installed on the rig, which cost a paltry $500,000 (compared to BP's billions in annual profits and the millions they are spending daily to fix their mess)

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

All OCS Rigs / Production Platforms wells are equiped with Blow Out Preventors and Sub Surface Safety Valves, MMS requires these devices.....

MMS may require those devices but they are NOT responsible for the rig's inpection and compliance with CFR's covering MODU's (CFR 46) That perview falls under the USCG's OCMI in the particular district they're in.
Also the rig is inspected by BP safety personnel BEFORE they accept the contract from the company owning the rig...in this case TransOcean. They must demonstrate the operation of these safety devices YEARLY when their inspection certificate is renewed.

 

[HUGGY]

This is a bad situation.. I'm not sure oil dispersal chemicals is a good idea either. The volume of oil is so great that you are risking killing EVERYTHING in the water as opposed to just lessening the beach penetration. And that maybe only negligebly.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well, there will THOUSANDS of such threads on this... as the LEFT tries to use this as a means to control energy production, thus socializing the means of industry...

Of which there will be THOUSANDS of Leftist position refuted, discredited and otherwise exposed as invalid Progressive, anti-American drivel.

So..your response is to stake out the leftists position?

Some of you people are certifiably bat shit crazy... Just sayin..

ROFLMNAO...

Ahh...

Yeah... that's right. There's no record of any Leftists in US Governance claiming their intentions to Sociali... er huh... huh... huh... er huh... basically er huh... huh... taking over and the government running all of your Energy Companies...

At least none except this one, stating such in her official capacity as a member of the US House of Representatives, in an official, duly authorized congressional hearing on US Energy production:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I-PVVowFY&feature=related"]YouTube - Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America)[/ame]

 

[HUGGY]

Well, there will THOUSANDS of such threads on this... as the LEFT tries to use this as a means to control energy production, thus socializing the means of industry...

Of which there will be THOUSANDS of Leftist position refuted, discredited and otherwise exposed as invalid Progressive, anti-American drivel.

So..your response is to stake out the leftists position?

Some of you people are certifiably bat shit crazy... Just sayin..

ROFLMNAO...

Ahh...

Yeah... that's right. There's no record of any Leftists in US Governance claiming their intentions to Sociali... er huh... huh... huh... er huh... basically er huh... huh... taking over and the government running all of your Energy Companies...

At least none except this one, stating such in her official capacity as a member of the US House of Representatives, in an official, duly authorized congressional hearing on US Energy production:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3I-PVVowFY&feature=related"]YouTube - Maxine Waters (D) Slip of the Tongue Reveals True Intentions (Socialism for America)[/ame]

I don't give a crap what Watters says.. She is an idiot.

But now that you mention it...

In terms of national security We should have a plan to insure our access to the fuels to keep our military operational at any cost. If that means nationalizing some of our petroleum reserves then so be it.

 

[Samson]

If the U.S. had required something called an "acoustic switch" to be installed on the rig, which cost a paltry $500,000 (compared to BP's billions in annual profits and the millions they are spending daily to fix their mess)

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

All OCS Rigs / Production Platforms wells are equiped with Blow Out Preventors and Sub Surface Safety Valves, MMS requires these devices.....

MMS may require those devices but they are NOT responsible for the rig's inpection and compliance with CFR's covering MODU's (CFR 46) That perview falls under the USCG's OCMI in the particular district they're in.
Also the rig is inspected by BP safety personnel BEFORE they accept the contract from the company owning the rig...in this case TransOcean. They must demonstrate the operation of these safety devices YEARLY when their inspection certificate is renewed.

The Drilling Lobby got to the MMS;

The U.S. considered requiring a remote-controlled shut-off mechanism several years ago, but drilling companies questioned its cost and effectiveness, according to the agency overseeing offshore drilling. The agency, the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, says it decided the remote device wasn't needed because rigs had other back-up plans to cut off a well.

 

[manu1959]

That's the trouble with regulations, they are always chasing a problem that already happened...

I like how you assume that regulations never prevent accidents just because you don't hear about it on the news. Why would the news even report that? Its a non-event. "Today an accident did NOT occur..."

cool...give me a regulation you would like to see implimented that would prevent an accident that hasn't happended yet....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

This is a bad situation.. I'm not sure oil dispersal chemicals is a good idea either. The volume of oil is so great that you are risking killing EVERYTHING in the water as opposed to just lessening the beach penetration. And that maybe only negligebly.

Indeed it is a bad situation...all oil dispersants do is emulsify the oil...they don't remove it from the water.

 

[Samson]

This is a bad situation.. I'm not sure oil dispersal chemicals is a good idea either. The volume of oil is so great that you are risking killing EVERYTHING in the water as opposed to just lessening the beach penetration. And that maybe only negligebly.

Indeed it is a bad situation...all oil dispersants do is emulsify the oil...they don't remove it from the water.

Do I hear a Giant Sucking Sound?

A nice Hurricane would emulsify that shit....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

This is a bad situation.. I'm not sure oil dispersal chemicals is a good idea either. The volume of oil is so great that you are risking killing EVERYTHING in the water as opposed to just lessening the beach penetration. And that maybe only negligebly.

Indeed it is a bad situation...all oil dispersants do is emulsify the oil...they don't remove it from the water.

Do I hear a Giant Sucking Sound?

A nice Hurricane would emulsify that shit....

Unfortunately we are out of the season right now. I live in the FL panhandle so I'm interested to see what washes up on the beach over the next week or so.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

cigarettes kill thousands,, they aren't regulated..

Really? Cigarettes aren't regulated? So I can smoke anywhere I like? I had no idea.

Yes you can smoke wherever you want....for a price....but cigarettes are responsible for the deaths of millions yet they are still allowed to be sold to pretty much anyone who wants them including minors.

You're not very intelligent, are you?

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Can you show examples of where regulations prevented much of anything?

You can't seriously be this stupid. Do you not wear a seatbelt when driving a car ? They save lives every day .

, I drove for years;over twenty years; without wearing a seat belt, safe driving prevents accidents and of course a seat belt increases the likelihood that you will not die as a result but it did not prevent the accident, that is what I meant , a seatbelt has never prevented a single accident.

You asked for an example of regulations preventing something. I never said seatbelts prevent accidents. I thought it was obvious their purpose is to prevent DEATH when an accident happens.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Tougher regulation could have prevent oil spill.

If there had not of been this tragic accident, the oil spill could be prevented too. Sad to say but SHIT HAPPENS.

No shit happens without cause

 

[SpidermanTuba]

cigarettes kill thousands,, they aren't regulated..

Really? Cigarettes aren't regulated? So I can smoke anywhere I like? I had no idea.

nothing prevents you from buying and smoking them asswipe but you knew that's what I meant didn't you asswipe or as you say "are you really that stupid?"

You said they weren't regulated. They are regulated. You were wrong. Get over it.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Hindsight, it's always 20/20. Even if they had installed it, there is no guarantee it would have prevented this.

Well heck, let's remove every safety device that isn't 100% effective. There is no guarantee a seatbelt will save your life in an accident - so why wear it?

BP have an excellent record

You mean they HAD an excellent record.

Shit happens. That's what this is. Shit. You wanna blame somebody? Blame yourself - and every other individual who uses gas and demands low prices.

Blame myself? Are you serious? You are seriously fucked in the head.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Can you show examples of where regulations prevented much of anything?

You can't seriously be this stupid. Do you not wear a seatbelt when driving a car ? They save lives every day .

My grandfather survived a car accident because he did not have his seat belt on.

Then don't wear one.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Really? Cigarettes aren't regulated? So I can smoke anywhere I like? I had no idea.

Yes you can smoke wherever you want....for a price....but cigarettes are responsible for the deaths of millions yet they are still allowed to be sold to pretty much anyone who wants them including minors.

You're not very intelligent, are you?

You must be looking in the mirror. You so called regulations on cigs have done NOTHING. Do you smoke?

 

[GWV5903]

If the U.S. had required something called an "acoustic switch" to be installed on the rig, which cost a paltry $500,000 (compared to BP's billions in annual profits and the millions they are spending daily to fix their mess)

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

All OCS Rigs / Production Platforms wells are equiped with Blow Out Preventors and Sub Surface Safety Valves, MMS requires these devices.....

MMS may require those devices but they are NOT responsible for the rig's inpection and compliance with CFR's covering MODU's (CFR 46) That perview falls under the USCG's OCMI in the particular district they're in.
Also the rig is inspected by BP safety personnel BEFORE they accept the contract from the company owning the rig...in this case TransOcean. They must demonstrate the operation of these safety devices YEARLY when their inspection certificate is renewed.

It has been 25+ years since I have been on a platform, they use to be the governing body.....tough to deal with back then, very demanding and for good reason....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

all ocs rigs / production platforms wells are equiped with blow out preventors and sub surface safety valves, mms requires these devices.....

mms may require those devices but they are not responsible for the rig's inpection and compliance with cfr's covering modu's (cfr 46) that perview falls under the uscg's ocmi in the particular district they're in.
Also the rig is inspected by bp safety personnel before they accept the contract from the company owning the rig...in this case transocean. They must demonstrate the operation of these safety devices yearly when their inspection certificate is renewed.

it has been 25+ years since i have been on a platform, they use to be the governing body.....tough to deal with back then, very demanding and for good reason....

ocmi?

 

[KissMy]

If the U.S. had required something called an "acoustic switch" to be installed on the rig, which cost a paltry $500,000 (compared to BP's billions in annual profits and the millions they are spending daily to fix their mess)

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

Stupid Tuba libtard reads a story likely from someone wanting to sell another safety device & thinks he knows something. Pushes for regs that cost everyone & prevents nothing. You Stupid Jack-Ass that piece of shit would have had absolutely zero effect on preventing this disaster or help stop the flow of oil afterwords. The problem was not communication with the blow out preventer, it was the failure of the blow out preventer it self along with all the blow out prevention methods.

A well blow-out is caused when a combination of well control systems fail. Primarily drilling mud hydrostatics, blow-out preventer's, and the formation pore pressure is greater than the well-bore pressure at depth.