Strait of Hormuz closed again

[eagle1462010]

I was eleven when 9/11 so I know quite a bit about them.

Did your mom work at the USO about 9 months before you were born in Norfolk, Vurginia?

Asking for a friend

 

[eagle1462010]

It appear that our "Greatest Terrorist Ally" sabotaged the deal yet again. Surprise, surprise. When will the Idiot in Chief realize that Zionism is every bit as dangerous and counterproductive as Marxism is?

Sounds like they got Payback for their Dead and wounded.

Heard they soaked the bullets fired in pig blood

 

[ChristisKing]

Did your mom work at the USO about 9 months before you were born in Norfolk, Vurginia?

Asking for a friend

What are you talking about? I was born in Ohio anyways.

 

[eagle1462010]

What are you talking about? I was born in Ohio anyways.

Ok it wasnt your mom then

 

[ChristisKing]

Ok it wasnt your mom then

Ummm alrighty then. I still don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Mac1958]

It appear that our "Greatest Terrorist Ally" sabotaged the deal yet again. Surprise, surprise. When will the Idiot in Chief realize that Zionism is every bit as dangerous and counterproductive as Marxism is?

He couldn't describe either one. He's an ignorant buffoon.

 

[ChristisKing]

Ok it wasnt your mom then

It looks like something to do with the military but I don't discuss personal information online anyways.

 

[citygator]

Trump loses power? He loses power on Jan. 21st 2029. If the GOP lose badly in the midterms, by no means certain, that doesn't really kick in until next year--- a long wait, besides, what will the new congress have that the current one doesn't? A desire to keep impeaching Trump for nothing every two years? Democrats are already looking like complete flakes and total asses as it is, to anyone who is not a flake and an ass already themselves.

Trump can take Iran out in a day.

But go ahead--- try to impeach Trump a third time for following the law Congress signed into power, all the while crying to us about the mean ol' Trump Admin weaponizing law and going after its enemies. No matter what you complain about as a reason for being against this Iran thing, it falls on deaf ears because we just went through it all, far worse, with Joe Biden, and you /SUPPORTED/ it then.

Why so angry? He’ll be a lame duck. No one will care what he says.

 

[toobfreak]

Why so angry? He’ll be a lame duck. No one will care what he says.

Yeah, you run with that.

 

[Oddball]

 

[skye]

Trump is right.

 

[WelfareQueen]

Trump is right.


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If so, he's stupid. Why is Trump allowing the Iranians to screw around. Finish the ******* job.

 

[kyzr]

If so, he's stupid. Why is Trump allowing the Iranians to screw around. Finish the ******* job.

How? Be specific.

 

[Mac-7]

I'm not waking up to anything. I was all for the Fordrow annihilation last summer and was fine with hammering Iran this past Spring--- long overdue; the part that is bugging me now is that:

1. The story that Hegseth and General Caine were giving us back at the start of this war has totally morphed over the life of it.
2. After knocking the crap out of Iran, we just let up and stopped for two whole months allowing them to regroup and recover, while we were supposedly now just going to let them suffer until they could take no more.

Sure, Iran has been devastated, hurt very badly, but they are showing more resolve now to hang in there and tough it out than we are showing in taking the matter to fruition, made all the worse by the fact that we are going it totally alone while 190 other countries stand in the wings just watching us, and wishing us luck, contributing nothing.

Vance and Iran are in Switzerland right now; let's hope something productive comes out of it. It just bugs me all this fooling around and half-measures--- for all they are criticized and attacked for it, I admire the IDF for their not cutting any corners: whether Hamas in Gaza or Hezbollah now in Lebanon, Israel goes at it fully committed, no fooling around.

IMO, instead of wasting the past two months hoping to starve Iran out until they just capitulated, we should have hit them much harder so that they were already at the desperate position they are at now, back in April, then we would have had all of Spring to resolve the matter instead of it now spilling over into the July 4 holiday and running right up against the midterm election season.

I agree with much of what you wrote

Instead of half stepping we should have hit them with everything short of nukes or boots on the ground

 

[toobfreak]

I agree with much of what you wrote
Instead of half stepping we should have hit them with everything short of nukes or boots on the ground

There is not a successful military leader in history which executed wars by half-measures. You enter war whether offensively or defensively, and your only recourse is to estimate your enemy, totally overwhelm, destroy and concur.

This bullshit of continually subjugating ourselves with self-imposed restraint, using only a fraction of our potential for a fraction of the time we can apply it in the hopes of saving lives, saving military or whatever is totally stupid and pure arrogance at best. These Iranians are not in it to fool around, they are dead serious and committed fully to the long haul to the very last man.

Not a single military conflict in history has EVER worked out well fighting it this way. You either beat Iran by BEATING them, total defeat, or you don't beat them at all.

This Iran gig is morphing into just another idiotic "kicking the can down the road" that brought us to this point, just one more "kick" to buy another few years. What, 2 years? 5? 10?

Worse, it appears that it is most buying time for the very people whom right now Trump is most mad at and feels they aren't playing his hand! The time to work all this crap out with your allies Donald was BEFORE you went to war, not AFTER. Israel pretty much has already gotten everything it could have hoped for out of this conflict and has moved on, while there you are holding just a bag of dog poop?

You might want to have another talk with your military strategists. Where is Raising Caine these days?

You either BEAT Iran or sooner or later they will be back, nukes and all, and they will just be meaner than ever with absolutely no interest in negotiating anything. There will be no 60 days or peace plans when it is Iran who comes calling.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Iran lies out of its ass

They do, but not as much as Trump. TACO Trump has turned into a worldwide joke. When he talks he sets back negotiations and peace. Poor Vance. He argued against bombing Iran and now he is tasked with negotiating peace. Vance makes a step forward and Trump says some dumbass thing that sets back all the success Vance's success.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Trump is right.


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Trump is correct about Israel but wrong about everything else.
He was the one who listened to Netanyahu over his own intelligence team. This war is all on Trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Iran closes Strait of Hormuz again

Well, what a shock.

I'm a little surprised it took THIS long.

And again, THIS is why no former President was STUPID enough to try this. We gave them their own version of a nuke out of Trump's stupidity. We made them a world power, with their grip on the world's oil.

Also gave Israel a reason to bomb Lebanon, which they're not doing for fun.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump is right.


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Trump is an idiot.

He went into this war not understand what was happening around him, he didn't bother to understand what Israel wanted from this, or what Israel would do. He didn't understand the Straight of Hormuz, he didn't understand any of it.

 

[BackAgain]

Why are you and Trump the only ones who didn’t realize Iran would shut down the strait?

Didn’t Fox News tell you?

Why are you and all your fellow leftis so unable to grasp that Iran can’t close the Strait?

It’s funny how blind, ignorant and yet biased you can be.