Stop wasting our time obama - attack iran and remove its regime

[rhodescholar]

It was a legitimate question. Are you man enough to answer it?

It is emblematic than an idiot like you has been provided mod status here; this was once a solid forum at one time.

No shit for brains, one does not need to join the police force to demand an increase in neighborhood crime be addressed, a teacher to improve the schools, a road worker to improve the roads and bridges, nor an accountant to demand lower taxes.

If you actually had any brains and were a mod of any worth, you would have read the whole 5 pages of this thread and realized that that question is deflective trolling garbage, and would not have posted it. A quality mod would have deleted each of the prior attempts as well.

As for question itself, as I've said 1,000 times before, I WOULD VOLUNTEER BACK IN to fly on the first flight to crush iran's regime. So fuck you, and now what do you have to offer, if anything, asshole?

 

[rdean]

Stop wasting our time obama - attack iran and remove its regime

Because it worked so well in Iraq.

Republicans are so funny stupid. They think enough bombs and guns and you can control the world. Remember, these are the fools that say, "They hate us for our freedom".

Besides, how many Muslim democracies are there in the Middle East?

This is the funniest part of all. Republicans actually like the Iranian government. A kind of democracy with the church in charge.

 

[rhodescholar]

Because it worked so well in Iraq.

Republicans are so funny stupid. They think enough bombs and guns and you can control the world. Remember, these are the fools that say, "They hate us for our freedom".

Besides, how many Muslim democracies are there in the Middle East?

This is the funniest part of all. Republicans actually like the Iranian government. A kind of democracy with the church in charge.

So many assumptions from the clueless. What makes you think i am a republican in any way? And where did I state I wanted to replace the regime with any other type? I personally don't care what type of regime replaces it, as long as it is not a terrorist shit hole like the one in charge there now. As for hypocrisy, how come far lefters like yourself who deride the christian/religious conservatives of the republican party, yet defend the iranian version that is run by such lunatics?

 

[rdean]

Nope.................sorry...............one of the WORST things we could do right now is to attack Iran.

Why? Simple actually, Iran is an Islamic country. How quickly do you think the Islamic terrorist organizations would be able to recruit people if the Great Satan of America attacked an Islamic country?

Same reason that we are only doing airstrikes on ISIL, because if we put combat troops on the ground there, it will be seen as Western oppression, and a lot of Islamic types would go and join the terrorist organizations.

I've got news for the OP...................the situation over there isn't as cut and dried as they think it is. Speaking as someone who has actually been to the ME on various tours, it's far more complex with lots of hidden alliances where an attack on one group can incite other groups to attack the United States.

I respect your opinion, as unlike some of the others opposing my OP, you actually seem to have intelligence.

But with that respect, over TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND have been mass murdered by iran's hand in syria, and tens of thousands more in iraq, with another war in gaza this past summer and no chance of peace - ever - in the mideast as long as iran's current regime exists.

Yes, there are sunni-shia issues, saudi arabia and pakistan are also cancers, with qatar not far beyond. Even Turkey has been a problem under erdo the dog for some time - but they are relatively manageable compared to iran - a fucking total cancer propped up and defended by russia and china.

They are an enemy state whose nuclear weapons program is totally unacceptable; they are already fomenting wars in five other countries without a fully developed nuke weapon - can you imagine how aggressive they and their terrorist proxies like hamas and hezbollah will be once they are able to operate under a nuclear weapons shield? Would you have wanted to fight Desert Storm in '91 if you knew Saddam had a functional nuclear weapon? Do you think he could have been dislodged from Kuwait if he had one? And what of our allies like saudi arabia and the gulf states, whom we are obligated through public/non-public agreements to defend? Last, allowing iran to achieve a nuclear weapons capability guarantees saudi and others in the mideast will do the same - do you want to see them available - and probably used if they are - in the most volatile place on earth?

You said: But with that respect, over TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND have been mass murdered by iran's hand in syria, and tens of thousands more in iraq, with another war in gaza this past summer and no chance of peace - ever - in the mideast as long as iran's current regime exists.

Smell that? Awful. That's the smell of pulling numbers out your butt. Don't do it again unless you can prove it.

 

[Syriusly]

A couple simple questions that should be important in a discussion like this:

a) How many American servicemen's lives are worth changing the regime in Iran?
b) How many years are we willing to have American's stationed in Iran to ensure that we get the 'right' regime?
c) How much of your own tax money are you willing to pony up for a new war?

 

[rhodescholar]

That's the smell of pulling numbers out your butt. Don't do it again unless you can prove it.

Prove what, idiot? The UN says about 200,000 have been killed in syria, and assad would and could not have stoked and maintained the war there without massive help from iran: weapons, ammunition, training, troops, and money. Iran has propped up the assad regime for the entirety of this conflict, which had it not occurred assad would have had to negotiate in good faith with the FSA - which would have left little or no opportunity for the extremist filth like ISIS to fill the vacuum. Not too hard to grasp, eh superstar?

 

[rhodescholar]

A couple simple questions that should be important in a discussion like this:

a) How many American servicemen's lives are worth changing the regime in Iran?

A major air bombing campaign with spec forces and troops from the gulf countries like SA would provide the backbone on the ground. Any resistance could be mopped up by one or two mechanized divisions.

b) How many years are we willing to have American's stationed in Iran to ensure that we get the 'right' regime?

I would estimate 2-3 years, but considing the huge benefits from removing that regime - and the warning it would send to n korea and other anti-Western scum holes seeking to test us - it would be worth it.

c) How much of your own tax money are you willing to pony up for a new war?

Just take it from the billions being pissed away on the illegals invading from central/south america.

 

[Syriusly]

A couple simple questions that should be important in a discussion like this:

a) How many American servicemen's lives are worth changing the regime in Iran?

A major air bombing campaign with spec forces and troops from the gulf countries like SA would provide the backbone on the ground. Any resistance could be mopped up by one or two mechanized divisions.

b) How many years are we willing to have American's stationed in Iran to ensure that we get the 'right' regime?

I would estimate 2-3 years, but considing the huge benefits from removing that regime - and the warning it would send to n korea and other anti-Western scum holes seeking to test us - it would be worth it.

c) How much of your own tax money are you willing to pony up for a new war?

Just take it from the billions being pissed away on the illegals invading from central/south america.

So a non-answer to a.

An 'Iraq' like answer to b- i.e. since we can win a war, we don't have to plan on any resistance after that.....

and an 'Iraq' like answer to 'c'- hell no we won't pay more for a war- or ask Americans to actually pay for it.

Thanks for volunteering for my child to pay for another war.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If we can't control the ME on our own, then we should disengage as you as possible.

Is that what the liberal trash wants, to control the mideast? No wonder we are so hated over there.

The move in 03 was to make Iraq an American buddy, not align it with Iran.

The smart move would have been to remove the fake, cancerous terrorist regime in iran ten years ago. Lebanon, gaza, yemen, syria and iraq would not be operating under the iranian criminal regime's control now if we had.

No one gives a shit what you did as a veteran, bub. Don't think it gives you any weight in this discussion.

Imbecile, YOU were the one who raised the point, stupid idiot.

You misdefine the role of volunteer; the ARNG had no business going overseas in support of war criminal activity.

You are clearly stupid AND illiterate; when you sign up overseas deployment is a possibility. Read what you sign next time, chimp.

Rhodes is lying. He asked me about my veteran service and I kicked his question up his ass.

Rhodes believes that we could have removed the Iranian leadership ten years ago, successfully, and changed the ME, which is controlling the ME forever. He is flatly wrong.

The ARNG is not made up to carry out misguided and Godforsaken Neo-Con initiatives.

 

[rhodescholar]

Rhodes is lying. He asked me about my veteran service and I kicked his question up his ass.

Idiot turd, I did not ask you about anything, because I DO NOT FUCKING CARE about you or what you have to say, moron. Show us the post where I ever asked any such thing, you lying piece of shit moron.

Rhodes believes that we could have removed the Iranian leadership ten years ago, successfully, and changed the ME, which is controlling the ME forever. He is flatly wrong.

Another lie from the resident moron; I never claimed about "changing the mideast" or "forever" you lying fucking turd. Show us where I said that, moronic lying piece of stupid shit.

The ARNG is not made up to carry out misguided and Godforsaken Neo-Con initiatives.

And with your clear lack of intelligence, how was cleaning the toilets and "servicing" the men like for the 12 years you served as a PV2, monkey?

 

[rhodescholar]

So a non-answer to a.

Since you lack the brains, as many as it takes.

An 'Iraq' like answer to b- i.e. since we can win a war, we don't have to plan on any resistance after that.....

Iran is a much more homogeneous country than iraq, and will coalesce around a functional regime much more easily than iraq, which was never a country and comprised of 3 major distinct groups. The vast majority of iranians are shia persian.

Thanks for volunteering for my child to pay for another war.

Who told them to volunteer into the armed forces, dimwit?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Like I said before......................if we invaded Iran, there are many Muslims who would join with them just to fight the Great Satan of America.

Not only that, but Iran and Syria are allied with Russia, and you can bet that Putin (who we already know has nuclear weapons) would probably be happy to join up with Iran as well.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup, you lie at the drop of a hat, as do all neo-cons.

Rhodes lies about is reasons for changing the Iranian regime.

I busted shitbirds like him out the army.

Guys, we are dealing with Rhodes, a poseur here, who cannot cogitate well and certainly has no clear understanding about the Middle East.

 

[Syriusly]

So a non-answer to a.

Since you lack the brains, as many as it takes.

An 'Iraq' like answer to b- i.e. since we can win a war, we don't have to plan on any resistance after that.....

Iran is a much more homogeneous country than iraq, and will coalesce around a functional regime much more easily than iraq, which was never a country and comprised of 3 major distinct groups. The vast majority of iranians are shia persian.

Ah the astute reasoning that made Iraq such an easy victory and displays why we were there as long as we were.

And now you want to throw the United States into another war in the Middle East.

That you are unwilling to pay for.

That American's don't want to participate in.

Must make you proud.

 

[HenryBHough]

Very few American lives need be put at risk.

How many would it take to crew about six (6, libs) properly loaded B2s

PROPERLY

 

[Coyote]

Like we need yet another ME war and even further destabilization in the ME.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Exactly what is your definition of "properly loaded B2's" Henry?

 

[rhodescholar]

Like I said before......................if we invaded Iran, there are many Muslims who would join with them just to fight the Great Satan of America.

Sunnis will cheer us attacking iran, and they are 90% of worldwide muslims. The fallout will be hezbollah attacking israel, and terrorist attacks against Western/US interests around the world, which happened in the past and will happen again on a larger scale than before if we do not stop iran now.

Not only that, but Iran and Syria are allied with Russia, and you can bet that Putin (who we already know has nuclear weapons) would probably be happy to join up with Iran as well.

Putin has his hands full with Ukraine and European sanctions buckling his economy - the ruble has fallen 40% this year. With oil prices low the russian economy is crippled, they are in no position to help anyone.

 

[rhodescholar]

Yup, you lie at the drop of a hat, as do all neo-cons. Rhodes lies about is reasons for changing the Iranian regime.I busted shitbirds like him out the army. Guys, we are dealing with Rhodes, a poseur here, who cannot cogitate well and certainly has no clear understanding about the Middle East.

You're a low IQ turd who accuses people of lying, then cannot show where they did. Fuck you, lowlife. You were probably section 8'd for being an idiot, assuming you even got past basic training. You're so fucking stupid and non-credible its hard to believe you could have.

 

[rhodescholar]

Ah the astute reasoning that made Iraq such an easy victory and displays why we were there as long as we were. And now you want to throw the United States into another war in the Middle East.That you are unwilling to pay for. That American's don't want to participate in. Must make you proud.

What reasoning is that, superstar? I did not support the iraq war. Second, you want to sit on your hands now - fine, wait a few years until iran tests a nuclear weapon in its western desert, and watch what happens from there. You think the mideast is unstable now? You have no fucking idea how bad it will be then, and I and the other adults in the room are not willing to wait to prove clueless ron paul boot lickers wrong.