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'Defense sources: Iran regime change not military goal, creating conditions for it is'
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Rawley
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I'll bite. who do you trust to tell you THE TRUTH?
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The worst part is if we wipe out Iran's threat to the world and they rebuild right at a time when Democrats become in charge. So, I think regime change needs to be an objective.Thanks. And: Clarity is best policy.
Defense sources: Iran regime change not military goal, creating conditions for it is.
The IDF sources noted that tackling Iran's ballistic missile threat was among the military's primary goals in the war.
Mar 11, 2026
IDF aims to reduce Iran threat, not force regime change | The Jerusalem Post
The defense sources noted that tackling Iran's ballistic missile threat was among the military's primary goals in the war.www.jpost.com
Over 1,900 Iranian Warfighters Killed in Ongoing Strikes, Israel Says.
Rojoef Manuel • March 10, 2026.
Israel has revealed that more than 1,900 of Tehran’s troops and commanders have been killed since the start of the conflict, as airstrikes continue across Iran.
Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Spokesperson Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin announced the figure, adding that thousands of others have been wounded in the campaign.
“We have many more targets; it is an ongoing effort, and we are deepening the blows to all levels of the regime,” The Times of Israel quoted him as saying.
Recent Operations.
According to the IDF, Israeli warplanes have struck military sites across Iran’s capital, Tehran, the central city of Isfahan, and southern regions since the start of the offensive in late February.
Attacks included six Iranian military airports and aircraft linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force.
Those strikes destroyed 16 transport aircraft allegedly used to move weapons and funding to Iran-backed groups across the Middle East, Ynet News reported.
Operations have also expanded to Lebanon, where the IDF reported striking more than 700 Hezbollah targets.
In Beirut, Israeli airstrikes targeted 35 high-rise buildings used by the group.
Meanwhile, Israeli officials confirmed that a second person died from an Iranian missile strike, raising the total civilian death toll in Israel from Iranian attacks to 12.
Two Israeli soldiers were also killed in clashes with the Iran-backed Shia Islamist paramilitary in Lebanon.
Reaction to New Supreme Leader.
The update comes amid US President Donald Trump’s disagreement with the naming of Iran’s latest supreme leader, Mojtaba Hosseini Khamenei, after the killing of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
When asked whether Israel could target the new leader, Defrin did not rule it out.
“Anyone who poses a threat will be struck,” Xinhua quoted Defrin as saying.
Over 1,900 Iranian Warfighters Killed in Ongoing Strikes, Israel Says
Israel has revealed that more than 1,900 of Iran's troops and commanders have been killed since the start of the conflict.thedefensepost.com
Rawley
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Fact of life
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Name a War that was not immoral? How many of Obama’s bombings were not immoral?
Godboy
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These problems have existed for my entire life. There is nothing they are saying about Iran that is untrue. Youre just talking shit, inneffectively i might add.
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Never mind my little Chickadees .
The main thing is that the Cheeky Chappies are running rings around the US and Israeli Zionist Terrorists .
Trumpfy has run out of things to do and has admitted his boys have run out of targets
Now Haifa , Tel Aviv and the US bases are in ruins and we await the next phase of Iran's Freedom Fight .
We all ask , How far have the supposedly mighty fallen and how much further will they sink with such perilously low ammunition and missile stocks .
Spare a thought for self elected battle leader Mr Trumpy --- a badly flawed strategy which collapsed within three days .
Failure to keep the Hormuz Strait open
No way to bring in ground troops
Loss of all US bases
It's like a Vietnam re-run --- All shouting and drum beating but no winning results .
The main thing is that the Cheeky Chappies are running rings around the US and Israeli Zionist Terrorists .
Trumpfy has run out of things to do and has admitted his boys have run out of targets
Now Haifa , Tel Aviv and the US bases are in ruins and we await the next phase of Iran's Freedom Fight .
We all ask , How far have the supposedly mighty fallen and how much further will they sink with such perilously low ammunition and missile stocks .
Spare a thought for self elected battle leader Mr Trumpy --- a badly flawed strategy which collapsed within three days .
Failure to keep the Hormuz Strait open
No way to bring in ground troops
Loss of all US bases
It's like a Vietnam re-run --- All shouting and drum beating but no winning results .
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They blew up so many targets already that they are running out of targets? That does NOT sound like a win for the IRGC.
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All over the world you dumb-ass.
JoeB131
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Because we keep sticking our noses in their business.
Gee, yes, Americans invading Iraq were killed by IRAQIS who got bombs from their fellow Shi'ites in Iran. (Not to mention all the explosives left over from Saddam because we didn't send in enough troops to secure the country.)
JoeB131
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Well, first, they couldn't get it here.
Second, as much as you think they are crazy people, (I know you really need to beleive that) a nuke being used would bring retaliation.
Same thing with Nuking Israel. They can't do that without killing Palestinians and destroying sites holy to Islam, so they won't do that, either.
Do you know what a Nuke is? It's a guarantee of sovereignty.
Saddam gave up his nukes, and Bush murdered him.
Gaddafi gave up his nukes, and Obama murdered him.
Khameini gave up his nukes, and Trump murdered him.
Kim Jong-Il didn't give up his nukes, and the world kissed his ass until the day he died and now kisses his son's ass.
Sounds to me like owning nukes is pretty useful, even if you never use them
So just screw those little girls, eh?
Oh, wait, given Trump's links to Epstein, that might not be a good thing to say, even in jest.
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Bloomberg, Financial Times, WSJ, CNBC.
Rawley
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Hmm The WSJ, occasionally
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Well thats clear anyway.
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Wait, so now you're advocating for Iran to have nukes?
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Crimes Against Humanity in Iran | Gregg Roman on Come to Think of It.
February 16, 2026
[...]
There are reports, including from The Jerusalem Post, of IRGC units going hospital to hospital, executing wounded protesters on operating tables. The scale of violence is unfathomable. By conservative estimates, between 50,000 and 60,000 people were killed over two to three weeks. Around 400,000 were injured. Tens of thousands are imprisoned, so many that political prisoners are now being held in grain silos and sports stadiums.
----
‘We’re dancing on your corpse’: Iranians celebrate Ali Khamenei’s death.
Even before confirmation, thousands of ordinary citizens had taken to the streets celebrating, dancing, pulling down the regime’s flags and replacing them with the pre-revolutionary Lion and Sun flag.
Shokoofeh Azar.
March 1, 2026 - 9:16PM
[...]
Their joy is immense, as is their hatred for their long-term leader who had personally ordered the massacre of an estimated (but not yet confirmed) 80,000 protesters who were peacefully demonstrating in the streets across the country. His record is filled with crimes, executions, plunder of Iran’s national wealth and the support of Iran’s proxies, the Islamist militias across the Middle East responsible for the death of thousands.
In the first hours of the bombing, Donald Trump addressed the Iranian people, saying: “America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force. Now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach. This is the moment for action. Do not let it pass.”
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Mixed reactions in Winnipeg following attacks on Iran.
By Harrison Shin.
Updated: March 02, 2026
[...]
“It’s a mixed feeling at this moment,” one of the demonstrators, Shervin Shahidian, told CTV News Saturday. “We are mostly happy in our hearts because we know the end (to this Islamic regime) is soon — but at the same time, we are very worried about our loved ones.”
Shahidian believes Trump made the right decision to intervene.
“The regime that didn’t care about 60,000 lives of its own people – you think if their ambition (is) to get to the nuclear power, they would hesitate to attack all those free nations if they wanted to?
Mixed reactions in Winnipeg following attacks on Iran
It was a weekend of mixed reactions in Winnipeg after an early Saturday morning military operation by the U.S. and Israel killed Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
www.ctvnews.ca
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Rival protesters face off in Manchester at Ayatollah vigil as Iran war continues
Scores of pro and anti-regime protesters gathered tonight.
By Charlotte Fisher, Tom Burnett Content Editor and Greta Simpson Senior Reporter.
March 4, 2026
[...]
He said: "I'm with the Jewish community. we come out every week to support the Iranian community because they supported us for two years after what happened after October 7. On Saturday we found out that the Ayatollah was dead, which is amazing because he's killed over 80,000 to 100,000 people on the streets.
"These Iranian people want a regime change. They're here to support each other. We're here tonight because they want to light a candle for a dictator, like I say he killed over 80,000 people on the street. What are they gonna do next? Light a candle for Hitler who killed 6 million of my ancestors? "The UK Prime Keir Starmer won’t prescribe the IRGC as a terrorist organization. Every other country in the world has done in the US, Europe, but all of a sudden Keir Starmer can’t do it."
Rival protesters face off in Manchester at Ayatollah vigil
Scores of pro and anti-regime protesters gathered tonight
----
Portland Iranian American says emotions split after report of Khamenei's killing.
by Victor Park, KATUStaff.
Tue, March 3, 2026.
Samira Sahebi, who identified herself as the secretary of the board of directors of the organization Free Iran PDX...
“And then they were machine gunned,” Sahebi said. “About 30,000 to 60,000 people were massacred in January.”
Sahebi said that level of desperation has led some people to see foreign action as a “rescue mission,” even if it means accepting the consequences of outside military intervention.
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Thanks. And: Clarity is best policy.
Defense sources: Iran regime change not military goal, creating conditions for it is.
The IDF sources noted that tackling Iran's ballistic missile threat was among the military's primary goals in the war.
Mar 11, 2026
IDF aims to reduce Iran threat, not force regime change | The Jerusalem Post
The defense sources noted that tackling Iran's ballistic missile threat was among the military's primary goals in the war.
Over 1,900 Iranian Warfighters Killed in Ongoing Strikes, Israel Says.
Rojoef Manuel • March 10, 2026.
Israel has revealed that more than 1,900 of Tehran’s troops and commanders have been killed since the start of the conflict, as airstrikes continue across Iran.
Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Spokesperson Brig. Gen. Effie Defrin announced the figure, adding that thousands of others have been wounded in the campaign.
“We have many more targets; it is an ongoing effort, and we are deepening the blows to all levels of the regime,” The Times of Israel quoted him as saying.
Recent Operations.
According to the IDF, Israeli warplanes have struck military sites across Iran’s capital, Tehran, the central city of Isfahan, and southern regions since the start of the offensive in late February.
Attacks included six Iranian military airports and aircraft linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ Quds Force.
Those strikes destroyed 16 transport aircraft allegedly used to move weapons and funding to Iran-backed groups across the Middle East, Ynet News reported.
Operations have also expanded to Lebanon, where the IDF reported striking more than 700 Hezbollah targets.
In Beirut, Israeli airstrikes targeted 35 high-rise buildings used by the group.
Meanwhile, Israeli officials confirmed that a second person died from an Iranian missile strike, raising the total civilian death toll in Israel from Iranian attacks to 12.
Two Israeli soldiers were also killed in clashes with the Iran-backed Shia Islamist paramilitary in Lebanon.
Reaction to New Supreme Leader.
The update comes amid US President Donald Trump’s disagreement with the naming of Iran’s latest supreme leader, Mojtaba Hosseini Khamenei, after the killing of his father and predecessor, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
When asked whether Israel could target the new leader, Defrin did not rule it out.
“Anyone who poses a threat will be struck,” Xinhua quoted Defrin as saying.
Over 1,900 Iranian Warfighters Killed in Ongoing Strikes, Israel Says
Israel has revealed that more than 1,900 of Iran's troops and commanders have been killed since the start of the conflict.
Which is nonsense really, as the sanctions were doing that.
Now the Iranian people might hate the US more, and turn away from it.
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You expect me to believe CIA and Mossad estimates on the number of casualties the CIA and Mossad inflicted in spearheading Bibi wet dream of regime change in Iran?Crimes Against Humanity in Iran | Gregg Roman on Come to Think of It.
February 16, 2026
[...]
There are reports, including from The Jerusalem Post, of IRGC units going hospital to hospital, executing wounded protesters on operating tables. The scale of violence is unfathomable. By conservative estimates, between 50,000 and 60,000 people were killed over two to three weeks. Around 400,000 were injured. Tens of thousands are imprisoned, so many that political prisoners are now being held in grain silos and sports stadiums.
----
‘We’re dancing on your corpse’: Iranians celebrate Ali Khamenei’s death.
Even before confirmation, thousands of ordinary citizens had taken to the streets celebrating, dancing, pulling down the regime’s flags and replacing them with the pre-revolutionary Lion and Sun flag.
Shokoofeh Azar.
March 1, 2026 - 9:16PM
[...]
Their joy is immense, as is their hatred for their long-term leader who had personally ordered the massacre of an estimated (but not yet confirmed) 80,000 protesters who were peacefully demonstrating in the streets across the country. His record is filled with crimes, executions, plunder of Iran’s national wealth and the support of Iran’s proxies, the Islamist militias across the Middle East responsible for the death of thousands.
In the first hours of the bombing, Donald Trump addressed the Iranian people, saying: “America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force. Now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach. This is the moment for action. Do not let it pass.”
----
Mixed reactions in Winnipeg following attacks on Iran.
By Harrison Shin.
Updated: March 02, 2026
[...]
“It’s a mixed feeling at this moment,” one of the demonstrators, Shervin Shahidian, told CTV News Saturday. “We are mostly happy in our hearts because we know the end (to this Islamic regime) is soon — but at the same time, we are very worried about our loved ones.”
Shahidian believes Trump made the right decision to intervene.
“The regime that didn’t care about 60,000 lives of its own people – you think if their ambition (is) to get to the nuclear power, they would hesitate to attack all those free nations if they wanted to?
Mixed reactions in Winnipeg following attacks on Iran
It was a weekend of mixed reactions in Winnipeg after an early Saturday morning military operation by the U.S. and Israel killed Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
----
Rival protesters face off in Manchester at Ayatollah vigil as Iran war continues
Scores of pro and anti-regime protesters gathered tonight.
By Charlotte Fisher, Tom Burnett Content Editor and Greta Simpson Senior Reporter.
March 4, 2026
[...]
He said: "I'm with the Jewish community. we come out every week to support the Iranian community because they supported us for two years after what happened after October 7. On Saturday we found out that the Ayatollah was dead, which is amazing because he's killed over 80,000 to 100,000 people on the streets.
"These Iranian people want a regime change. They're here to support each other. We're here tonight because they want to light a candle for a dictator, like I say he killed over 80,000 people on the street. What are they gonna do next? Light a candle for Hitler who killed 6 million of my ancestors? "The UK Prime Keir Starmer won’t prescribe the IRGC as a terrorist organization. Every other country in the world has done in the US, Europe, but all of a sudden Keir Starmer can’t do it."
Rival protesters face off in Manchester at Ayatollah vigil
Scores of pro and anti-regime protesters gathered tonightwww.manchestereveningnews.co.uk
----
Portland Iranian American says emotions split after report of Khamenei's killing.
by Victor Park, KATUStaff.
Tue, March 3, 2026.
Samira Sahebi, who identified herself as the secretary of the board of directors of the organization Free Iran PDX...
“And then they were machine gunned,” Sahebi said. “About 30,000 to 60,000 people were massacred in January.”
Sahebi said that level of desperation has led some people to see foreign action as a “rescue mission,” even if it means accepting the consequences of outside military intervention.
Pastelli
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The sources are not CIA.
It seems you always fo that. You just 'reply' with out reading.
1. The Australian:
https://archive.is/J5KCi#:~:text=80...fully,filled with crimes, executions, plunder
2. Manchester Evening News:
https://archive.is/KXxTL
3. KATU :
https://archive.is/0zoyK
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Here is more:
* Natasha Devon:
"The regime provides no information on whether they are detained or have been killed. Based on the available evidence, a more realistic estimate is at least 45,000 people death -some people estimate it to 80,000."
Iran execute protesters in hospital beds, with fears the death toll now surpassing 30,000 in ongoing crackdown | LBC
Protestors have been found with gunshot wounds to the head whilst in their hospital gowns, according to reports.
www.lbc.co.uk
* LBC interviews
''ISTO'' organization. (1.26.26):
''Iran’s January 2026 Massacre EXPOSED | 45,000–80,000 Dead in 48 Hours | LBC Interview. Paul Smith - Options Trader
and Iran Sanctions & Trade Observatory (ISTO)''.* IRANO org. Irano.info:
After killing of over 80,000 Iranians, students raised lion and sun flag at school.
The revolution and the combat continues despite of the suppression.
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