Stimulus Checks.

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But without those people you look down on to do the work, all you money would be nothing more than scraps of paper.

Yes we need janitors to clean Bill Gates office but we don't want a libNazi govt to steal money at gunpoint with which to pay everyone what they are worth to the Nazi govt. How stupid of you to think you can trust the govt to be on your side rather than against you. What you want is freedom so everyone can work peacefully toward the income they want without violent libnazi govt getting in their way. That is the basis for America.

 

[quarantine]

Because being wealthy, they can tell you any stupid statistics that they want and crush any others.

The IRS tells us that the top 1% pay 40% of all income tax collected, not 1%. You are not having a good day are you??? Notice that in debate liberals get crushed?

That's what you get for believing the IRS. Most of the people aren't wealthy. When most of such people are paying a certain percentage of their income in taxes, they have to be paying more than the wealthy. Because there are just so many more of them. WAY more. Also, people in general don't even pay taxes. They file their taxes and get most of it back when their tax returns come back. So for the most part, most of what they pay in taxes is just a short term loan to the government. And their tax returns enable them to buy things they normally wouldn't have been able to afford. So to that degree, the government is actually doing them a favor by taxing them. Now does it work the same way for the taxes the wealthy pay? Not being wealthy, I don't know.

 

[airplanemechanic]

You do realize that when this is over you will owe all your back rent, right?

 

[quarantine]

Yeah, the patriots were the wealthy and the tyrants were the poor. I'm not buying it.

what exactly are you not buying??

That the poor are the tyrants.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That's what you get for believing the IRS.

first you said the rich controlled everything and lied about what they paid in taxes. Now you say the IRS lies to us about what the rich pay.

So who is the authority on this if not you?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That the poor are the tyrants.

who said the poor are tyrants????? where exactly???

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Because being wealthy, they can tell you any stupid statistics that they want and crush any others.

The IRS tells us that the top 1% pay 40% of all income tax collected, not 1%. You are not having a good day are you??? Notice that in debate liberals get crushed?

That's what you get for believing the IRS. Most of the people aren't wealthy. When most of such people are paying a certain percentage of their income in taxes, they have to be paying more than the wealthy. Because there are just so many more of them. WAY more. Also, people in general don't even pay taxes. They file their taxes and get most of it back when their tax returns come back. So for the most part, most of what they pay in taxes is just a short term loan to the government. And their tax returns enable them to buy things they normally wouldn't have been able to afford. So to that degree, the government is actually doing them a favor by taxing them. Now does it work the same way for the taxes the wealthy pay? Not being wealthy, I don't know.

liberals gibberish, do you have any idea what your point is??

 

[quarantine]

You do realize that when this is over you will owe all your back rent, right?

I wouldn't pay it. I would join the rent strike. You can try, but you can't get blood from a stone. Yeah, people will owe the landlords, whoever they might make car payments to, the gas company, the electric company and whoever else. I say fuck it and just shoot anybody who tries to take what you don't have. If you get evicted, burn down your house or apartment. Let the government build prisons. Let's see how that works out for you.

 

[quarantine]

But without those people you look down on to do the work, all you money would be nothing more than scraps of paper.

Yes we need janitors to clean Bill Gates office but we don't want a libNazi govt to steal money at gunpoint with which to pay everyone what they are worth to the Nazi govt. How stupid of you to think you can trust the govt to be on your side rather than against you. What you want is freedom so everyone can work peacefully toward the income they want without violent libnazi govt getting in their way. That is the basis for America.

With people being out of work due to the corona virus, for the time being things just can't be business as usual. Because usual just isn't happening. It has nothing to do with being a commie or whatever. It is just the way things are.

 

[quarantine]

That the poor are the tyrants.

who said the poor are tyrants????? where exactly???

Well I told you that Thomas Jefferson said, "From time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." So who are the tyrants. The wealthy or the poor.

 

[quarantine]

Because being wealthy, they can tell you any stupid statistics that they want and crush any others.

The IRS tells us that the top 1% pay 40% of all income tax collected, not 1%. You are not having a good day are you??? Notice that in debate liberals get crushed?

That's what you get for believing the IRS. Most of the people aren't wealthy. When most of such people are paying a certain percentage of their income in taxes, they have to be paying more than the wealthy. Because there are just so many more of them. WAY more. Also, people in general don't even pay taxes. They file their taxes and get most of it back when their tax returns come back. So for the most part, most of what they pay in taxes is just a short term loan to the government. And their tax returns enable them to buy things they normally wouldn't have been able to afford. So to that degree, the government is actually doing them a favor by taxing them. Now does it work the same way for the taxes the wealthy pay? Not being wealthy, I don't know.

liberals gibberish, do you have any idea what your point is??

Yes. If you get a stimulus check, DON'T use it to pay rent with. Being able to eat is more important than rent. And let's say that minimum wage is $11.80 an hour. At a 40 hour week, in one month that comes out to $1888. The stimulus checks will be around $600 less than that.

 

[Unkotare]

You do realize that when this is over you will owe all your back rent, right?

I wouldn't pay it. I would join the rent strike. You can try, but you can't get blood from a stone. Yeah, people will owe the landlords, whoever they might make car payments to, the gas company, the electric company and whoever else. I say fuck it and just shoot anybody who tries to take what you don't have. If you get evicted, burn down your house or apartment. Let the government build prisons. Let's see how that works out for you.

This is a little emo-queen’s brain on drugs...^^^^^

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Chances are, as it was then, the police won't remove you.

??? Your debt will grow, eventually you will be evicted, you will then need another landlord to trust you will pay the new higher rent that your bad credit will trigger. Best course is, if you cant pay, make the best deal you can with your creditors to minimize the damage as much as possible.

No. Then you vote for a National Socialist leader. Who then proclaims imminent domain over most rental properties and takes possession of them. Then basically turns them into section 8 housing. Also, I had a friend who's son was the friend of the son of a landlord. He told my friends son that all his father had to do for a living was collect money. Maybe it's time such people got a real fucking job instead of being parasites. And actually make something tangible that contributed to the human condition.

Landlords pay property taxed and are required to maintain property according to code.
The issue is that there is no way low income workers will ever be able to make back payments.
On the other hand, why would a landlord kick someone out when no one has money now and the landlord will have to go through the pain of advertising and showing the rentals to other people who have out of work?

It sure is refreshing to hear somebody say something sensible on this topic.
Why should the renters be the only ones to take a bite if the coronavirus shit sandwich. Also, probably most people only earn minimum wage. Which they have trouble enough getting by with. Let alone pay back rent with. Also, the average minimum wage here in the U.S. is $11.80 an hour. If you are lucky enough to work 40 hours a week, that comes out to $1888 a month. The stimulus checks will be around $600 less than that. Only a sucker's sucker would wast it on paying back rent.

Also, probably most people only earn minimum wage.

Less than 3% of Americans earn the Federal minimum wage.

I wonder what rat infested hell hole you dug that statistic up from. I suppose you also believe that the Clinton administration balanced the budget. Before the coronavirus hit, there were around 27 million unemployed working age adults in the U.S. And around 22 million that were underemployed.

I wonder what rat infested hell hole you dug that statistic up from.

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Characteristics of minimum wage workers, 2017 : BLS Reports: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

In 2017, 80.4 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 58.3 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 542,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. About 1.3 million had wages...

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I misunderstood your reply. I thought you were saying that only 3% of Americans are paid minimum wage, or lower.

I thought you were saying that only 3% of Americans are paid minimum wage, or lower.

That's precisely what I said.

Turns out, you were just about right. So much for statistics. Maybe there is some question as to what minimum wage is. I have heard the average is $11.80 an hour. But apparently in some states it is $7.25. With the correct answers being so hard to find, there must be something fishy going on. But on one website from PEW Research, they say that 14.3% of Americans live in poverty. Which is 43.6 million people. But I also found that there are around 157 million workers in the U.S. That is nearly a third of workers. It seems to me that one third is more than 14.3%. Maybe we should get back to the stimulus checks.

Maybe there is some question as to what minimum wage is.

No question. The Federal Minimum Wage is $7.25

I have heard the average is $11.80 an hour.

Nope.

With the correct answers being so hard to find

Not hard.

The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour.

Minimum Wage

The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. Many states also have minimum wage laws. In cases where an employee is subject to both the state and federal minimum wage laws, the employee is entitled to the higher of the two minimum wages.

www.dol.gov

there must be something fishy going on

You're an idiot.

But on one website from PEW Research, they say that 14.3% of Americans live in poverty. Which is 43.6 million people. But I also found that there are around 157 million workers in the U.S. That is nearly a third of workers.

Why would you think that everyone in poverty is a worker?

Is it because you're an idiot?

 

[Care4all]

My advice is to NOT use your stimulus check to pay either rent or a mortgage with. There is a rent strike going on. Join it! Right now because of the coronavirus thing, it is illegal to evict you. Take advantage of it. If either your landlord or bank brings up rent or mortgage, just tell them you are out of work due to the coronavirus thing and can't pay it. I know that the banks got their bailout. So if your landlord brings up your stimulus check, ask them if they got one. If they did, then just tell them that you're squared away then. If they put up more of a fuss, (which they probably will) just tell them to write it off on their taxes.

If you disagree, consider this. I saw somebody on the news a couple days ago who used their stimulus check to pay their rent with. Do you know what they are now? HUNGRY! I say to hell with that! Do you think people should go hungry and deeper in debt, but for landlords and banks it should be business as usual? If you think that, I would have to ask you just how long you have been a sociopath.

There was a sort of similar situation that went on in the housing meltdown of 2008. I remember seeing a congresswoman on TV telling people to not allow themselves to be evicted. But to stay put. And that is my advice to you. Chances are, as it was then, the police won't remove you.

i still haven't gotten my stimulus check, nor has the hubby, nor has my older sister, nor has my mom and dad....

it's almost a month since they passed the bill..... where the heck are the checks?

 

[The Irish Ram]

The most recent IRS data, from 2016, shows that the top 10 percent of income earners pay almost 70 percent of federal taxes.
Ask France what happened when they went after their top 10%. The 10% moved out and took their money with them. Guess who they targeted once that happened.

You want to eat. Cake. You get to eat and they get to eat. That is the way it should work. I see people in long lines in cars waiting for food and people standing in line for food. Hundreds of them. I doubt if any single one of them was a landlord. Get this asshole. Money breeds money. It creates an aristocracy. From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with their blood. You are the parasite. You could be swimming in money. But without those people you look down on to do the work, all you money would be nothing more than scraps of paper

So many stupid assumption that are wrong.

How do I eat if I depend on their rent to buy my groceries and pay my bills, and they don't pay the rent?
You have NO idea what occupations the people in their cars have.
Tree of liberty my ass.
What people do I look down on? My renters? Hardly.
My renters love me. Still have not gotten April's rent yet. Told them to let me know when they have it. Because unlike you, they are responsible adults that will pay it when they have it. The last person in that house was a boy whose parents died when he was in high school. Lost his job when the company was sold. We kept him there all winter. When they shut off his electric, we had it put in our name, so he'd be alright. He found a job, moved closer to work, and when he was solvent again paid us every thing he owed us.


Not everyone that rents is a parasite like you. I rent to people with higher moral standards than you have. You'd never even get in the door.

 

[airplanemechanic]

My advice is to NOT use your stimulus check to pay either rent or a mortgage with. There is a rent strike going on. Join it! Right now because of the coronavirus thing, it is illegal to evict you. Take advantage of it. If either your landlord or bank brings up rent or mortgage, just tell them you are out of work due to the coronavirus thing and can't pay it. I know that the banks got their bailout. So if your landlord brings up your stimulus check, ask them if they got one. If they did, then just tell them that you're squared away then. If they put up more of a fuss, (which they probably will) just tell them to write it off on their taxes.

If you disagree, consider this. I saw somebody on the news a couple days ago who used their stimulus check to pay their rent with. Do you know what they are now? HUNGRY! I say to hell with that! Do you think people should go hungry and deeper in debt, but for landlords and banks it should be business as usual? If you think that, I would have to ask you just how long you have been a sociopath.

There was a sort of similar situation that went on in the housing meltdown of 2008. I remember seeing a congresswoman on TV telling people to not allow themselves to be evicted. But to stay put. And that is my advice to you. Chances are, as it was then, the police won't remove you.

You do realize that when this is over you will owe all your back rent, right?

I wouldn't pay it. I would join the rent strike. You can try, but you can't get blood from a stone. Yeah, people will owe the landlords, whoever they might make car payments to, the gas company, the electric company and whoever else. I say fuck it and just shoot anybody who tries to take what you don't have. If you get evicted, burn down your house or apartment. Let the government build prisons. Let's see how that works out for you.

Um that's felony arson.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

it's almost a month since they passed the bill..... where the heck are the checks?

a monopoly bureaucracy is incompetent and has little reason to do anything well;yet our liberals, now libcommies, want to give them 100 times more responsibility?

 

[Pete7469]

i still haven't gotten my stimulus check, nor has the hubby, nor has my older sister, nor has my mom and dad....

it's almost a month since they passed the bill..... where the heck are the checks?

Did you pay taxes? I got mine 2 weeks ago.

 

[Pete7469]

That the poor are the tyrants.

The STUPID, which are represented by you, are the tyrants.

Indeed they do tend to be "poor" not only because they make shitty choices but they also empower sociopaths like Lenin, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Obozo, Hitlery, Mugabe, Kim Ill Sung among other criminals that promise to steal shit on their behalf, but never actually deliver the caviar to the peasants.

The insipid socialist agitprop you post has been refuted more than the flat earth society.

You really ought to just get a retroactive self abortion and stop stealing our oxygen.

.

 

[Pete7469]

it's almost a month since they passed the bill..... where the heck are the checks?

a monopoly bureaucracy is incompetent and has little reason to do anything well;yet our liberals, now libcommies, want to give them 100 times more responsibility?

Exactly, you want the same gov't to deliver your medical care?

GREAT IDEA!!!

Lets turn hospitals over to government so every emergency room turns into the DMV and people bleed to death before their number comes up.

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