State Dept. told to plan for potential protests after Jerusalem embassy announcement

[abi]

The Jewish people have a right to a nation.

Herzl suggested an empty area of Kenya. The zionists would have been safer there and have had just as much right to that land.

 

[abi]

The Arab Palestinians have a right to a nation.

They tried, the zionists made that impossible.

 

[abi]

What I want is for the Arab Palestinians to recognize Israel as the State for the Jewish people and sit down and negotiate the (rather simple) details.

Try it anywhere else on earth. Go ask for half of anyone's land and see how it works out for you. If nothing else, it might offer you perspective.

 

[Shusha]

What I want is for the Arab Palestinians to recognize Israel as the State for the Jewish people and sit down and negotiate the (rather simple) details.

Try it anywhere else on earth. Go ask for half of anyone's land and see how it works out for you. If nothing else, it might offer you perspective.

Sounds like I am the one advocating for peace and you are the one advocating for continued war until Israel is erased.

 

[admonit]

That is what you want, Shusha, right?

What I want is for people to stop trying to destroy Israel. The Jewish people have a right to a nation. The Arab Palestinians have a right to a nation. What I want is for the Arab Palestinians to recognize Israel as the State for the Jewish people and sit down and negotiate the (rather simple) details.

I wouldn't say Jerusalem is a simple detail.

 

[abi]

Sounds like I am the one advocating for peace and you are the one advocating for continued war until Israel is erased.

Stop derailing, especially with such obvious pot/kettle, grotesque accusations. Never, ever, have I said anything like that. This embassy move, on the other hand, which you support, might literally kick off WWIII.

 

[Shusha]

I wouldn't say Jerusalem is a simple detail.

Well, Jerusalem will be one of, if not THE, sticking point in a negotiation for division of the territory. But..it can still be done, I think. It will require a bit of thinking outside the box. At this point, I don't see Israel giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount. There is no display of trust that the Arabs will permit any access to the Jewish people to our most holy place. In fact, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. In contrast, Israel has displayed a REMARKABLE investment in ensuring Muslim access, even to the point of restricting the religious rights of Jews. On balance, I think if Arab Muslims wish to have any future say with respect to the Old City and the Temple Mount -- they need to start showing some respect and real darn fast.

 

[Shusha]

Sounds like I am the one advocating for peace and you are the one advocating for continued war until Israel is erased.

Stop derailing, especially with such obvious pot/kettle, grotesque accusations. Never, ever, have I said anything like that. This embassy move, on the other hand, which you support, might literally kick off WWIII.

Why would Arabs oppose (to the point of WWIII) Israel choosing her own capital city and having some control over at least part of it? It IS Israel's historical capital. Why would the Arabs reject that? It would be like the Jews rejecting Arab presence in Mecca.

 

[abi]

I wouldn't say Jerusalem is a simple detail.

Well, Jerusalem will be one of, if not THE, sticking point in a negotiation for division of the territory. But..it can still be done, I think. It will require a bit of thinking outside the box. At this point, I don't see Israel giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount. There is no display of trust that the Arabs will permit any access to the Jewish people to our most holy place. In fact, there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. In contrast, Israel has displayed a REMARKABLE investment in ensuring Muslim access, even to the point of restricting the religious rights of Jews. On balance, I think if Arab Muslims wish to have any future say with respect to the Old City and the Temple Mount -- they need to start showing some respect and real darn fast.

Oy vey iz mir, were you of sound mind when you typed this?

Why would Arabs oppose (to the point of WWIII) Israel choosing her own capital city and having some control over at least part of it?

Jerusalem is not even part of Israel, focus. Why would Americans oppose (to the point of WWIII) a foreign nation choosing her own capital city and having some control over at least part of it in DC?

 

[abi]

It IS Israel's historical capital.

Never in our brief world's history has the international community recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital. They didn't even recognize Israel until 1948.

 

[Linkiloo]

What I want is for people to stop trying to destroy Israel.

Well, Israel might have tried to establish itself by peaceful means, instead of by infuriating the 2+ billion strong Muslim world.

To be honest, thats an ongoing condition we live in. The angry muslim, stabbing people, driving into masses of people at Christmas markets, killing journalists who publish satire, killing people at train stations while shouting alla akbar - and that is before Trump announces anything. So basically same old same old. Trump shouldn't cave.

 

[Linkiloo]

It is time to recognise the reality on the ground and to force palestinians to finally negotiate and stop with their terrorism. Sadly I expect they won't learn and people like abi will encourage them to reist reality...because..."the Jews".

 

[abi]

To be honest, thats an ongoing condition we live in. the angry muslim, stabbing, driving into Christmas markets, killing journalists, killing people at train stations while shouting alla akbar - and that is before Trump announces anything. So basically same old same old. Trump shouldn't cave.

And look what the zionists do. The zionists out-kill the Palestinians by far, year in, year out, women, children, doesn't matter. The zionist experiment is a failure. It has led to decades of suffering on both sides. This action is insane. The only ones who support this want war. This will finally eliminate the Muslim and Christian population in Israel. After the war, they want to rebuild their imagined 3rd temple on Muslim holy land after destroying all remnants of Islam in Islams 3rd holiest place on earth. The Muslim structures there date back centuries.

 

[Ria_Longhorn]

The Trump does not want peace and the zionists never have. I hope calmer heads will prevail.

(CNN)The State Department's security arm has been told to plan for potentially violent protests at US embassies and consulates once the Trump administration announces it is moving the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

"We were told that this is definitely coming, and we need to be ready for it," one official said....
State Dept. told to plan for potential protests after Jerusalem announcement - CNNPolitics

A slap in the face to international law and morally broken.

Presently, this is a non-priority issue in the Sunni Muslim world.

 

[admonit]

I wouldn't say Jerusalem is a simple detail.

Well, Jerusalem will be one of, if not THE, sticking point in a negotiation for division of the territory. But..it can still be done, I think. It will require a bit of thinking outside the box. At this point, I don't see Israel giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount.

And I don't see Palestinians giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount.
There are also other "details" including the Palestinian refugees...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A century of war indeed, should saner minds not prevail.

Concerned over Trump's expected announcement of the US' recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, Jordan and Egypt both warn such a move would only fuel extremism and violence and stifle attempts to renew the Middle East peace process....
Ynetnews News - Jordan, Egypt warn US against recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital

That is what you want, Shusha, right?

A century of war indeed, should saner minds not prevail.

After another century of Arabs losing to Israel, how much larger will Israel be in 2117?
100% larger? 300% larger? More?

 

[Hollie]

To be honest, thats an ongoing condition we live in. the angry muslim, stabbing, driving into Christmas markets, killing journalists, killing people at train stations while shouting alla akbar - and that is before Trump announces anything. So basically same old same old. Trump shouldn't cave.

And look what the zionists do. The zionists out-kill the Palestinians by far, year in, year out, women, children, doesn't matter. The zionist experiment is a failure. It has led to decades of suffering on both sides. This action is insane. The only ones who support this want war. This will finally eliminate the Muslim and Christian population in Israel. After the war, they want to rebuild their imagined 3rd temple on Muslim holy land after destroying all remnants of Islam in Islams 3rd holiest place on earth. The Muslim structures there date back centuries.

Your complaint about Arabs-Moslems dying in greater numbers than Israelis seems naive and misplaced. This has, by the way, been addressed many times before. When Arabs-Moslems choose to attack Israel from civilian areas, that is a tactic which will explicitly put civilians at risk to the inevitable israeli retaliation. Dead islamic are the result of islamics waging war from civilian areas. Are you presuming an entitlement in favor of islamic terrorists which allows them acts of Islamic terrorism without consequence?

 

[Shusha]

I wouldn't say Jerusalem is a simple detail.

Well, Jerusalem will be one of, if not THE, sticking point in a negotiation for division of the territory. But..it can still be done, I think. It will require a bit of thinking outside the box. At this point, I don't see Israel giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount.

And I don't see Palestinians giving up the Old City and the Temple Mount.
There are also other "details" including the Palestinian refugees...

The Arab Palestinians have already "given up" the Old City and the Temple Mount in that they no longer control it. It has been under the control of Israel for decades. The only way the Arab Palestinians will re-gain control of it is if Israel cedes it in negotiation. It's not likely to happen at this point. That ship has sailed.

The other ship which has sailed is the hope that the Arab nations will band together in unison against Israel and her allies in a military confrontation on behalf of the Arab Palestinians. Iran and Isis have ensured this outcome. If push comes to shove (and I'm not yet convinced it will) it is much more likely that the Arab Muslim world will split internally than they will all fight together against Israel and the US.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Flynn is being prosecuted for asking Russia to veto the UN Resolution condemning the settlements after Jihadist Obama said the US would abstain, thereby letting the motion pass

 

[abi]

That ship has sailed.

The ships that sailed to Gaza and the Sinai realized their error and sailed back.