Start the Federal Govt slashing: Senate Investigation finds only 6% of federal employees work from office full time

[Lisa558]

The naivety of magats never ceases to amaze me.

Do you have any idea of the cost of office buildings, electricity, cleaning, desks, maintenance and so on?

These have been eliminated by several companies including my employer.

I now provide the desk, the electricity, the bathroom services, lighting and so on and I am a lot more productive than I was in a tiny cube packed into a huge open plan office that is noisy and brightly lit.

Musk is a dunce.

You’re not fooling anyone. Big deal - you provide a desk, and use your own bathroom. So in return for that you get to go to two-hour lunches with friends, go on a bike ride, take tennis lessons, get in a quick round of golf, hog the shady chairs at the pool, and see a matinee,

And don’t get me started on the “workers” who go on ski vacations and take no annual leave, or to visit their family across the country, or in at least one instance I am aware of, go on a trip to Europe. ALL claimed to be “working.”

THE GIG IS UP. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.

 

[Lisa558]

You are as ignorant as your bigoted and have likely never even had a demanding job.

Just watch, the first thing you will notice with this DOGE crap is increased waiting times when calling a federal office, reduced quality, poorer service and so on. The staffing levels often ensure a certain standard of service.

You’re clueless.

 

[martybegan]

The naivety of magats never ceases to amaze me.

Do you have any idea of the cost of office buildings, electricity, cleaning, desks, maintenance and so on?

These have been eliminated by several companies including my employer.

I now provide the desk, the electricity, the bathroom services, lighting and so on and I am a lot more productive than I was in a tiny cube packed into a huge open plan office that is noisy and brightly lit. There's no advantage in having a huge office building and wasting people's time travelling two or more hours per day, totally wasted time.

Musk is a dunce.

Do you have any idea what a majority work from home work-force would do to city centers?

Plus, it increases the divide between people who HAVE to go to work every day and those who do not.

Work from home is a luxury of the white collar worker, and really only those who don't need to maintain a presence on the jobsite.

My job requires me to be onsite, 5 days a week. I was back to work onsite at least 4 days a week by May 2020.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You’re not fooling anyone. Big deal - you provide a desk, and use your own bathroom. So in return for that you get to go to two-hour lunches with friends, go on a bike ride, take tennis lessons, get in a quick round of golf, hog the shady chairs at the pool, and see a matinee,

What information do you have that can substantiate these claims you're making about me?

And don’t get me started on the “workers” who go on ski vacations and take no annual leave, or to visit their family across the country, or in at least one instance I am aware of, go on a trip to Europe. ALL claimed to be “working.”

THE GIG IS UP. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.

Welcome to a reduced quality of service from the federal agencies, you'll soon be complaining.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Stop making excuses. We are talking about government employees who are goofing off half the day and making $150,000 a year. It’s shameful. And the ones I know were bitching about having to go in just ONE day a week. Why do they feel so entitled?

Our taxes are paying for this scam, and it’s past time it ends.

And don’t get me started on the contractors. I know a guy who retired from the government, started his own contracting firm, put his wife on contracts as the “administrator” - and together the two of them cleared $500,000 a year.

During COVID, I worked from home, as did my wife. Both our jobs were well suited to working from home. Going into the office would require my wife to be on the road 3 hours each day. I worked locally on an Army post and returned after COVID was over to my job site for training, but we were returned home afterward because our facility was condemned for further use because of water damage. My wife stayed out for the duration. She only went back to work to put in her retirement papers.

My contracting company had to go through the additional cost to rent a facility for our workers to return to the job site. I had to quit work before they did. The workers had no desire to go through all of the extra inconvenience of commuting. My wife and I saved a ton of money on gas and maintenance for her car and almost nothing on my vehicle. Many people quit rather than return to work every day and that is what the real reason is behind forcing the government workers to go back to work. If everyone goes back to work, costs will actually increase.

 

[Oddball]

So another day 1 act of our new leader is to layoff thousands of people.

More like salting leeches.....Yes.

 

[Lisa558]

What information do you have that can substantiate these claims you're making about me?

The plural “you.”

Welcome to a reduced quality of service from the federal agencies, you'll soon be complaining.

haha. reduced quality of service? Maybe we will finally get a DECENT quality of service once fed workers are required to WORK.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Do you have any idea what a majority work from home work-force would do to city centers?

Why do I care? if business aren't viable then so what?

Plus, it increases the divide between people who HAVE to go to work every day and those who do not.

Then get a different job you bitter loser.

Work from home is a luxury of the white collar worker, and really only those who don't need to maintain a presence on the jobsite.

It is only made possible by the availability of advanced communication services and the internet. If you look back to the 1950s engineers were promising that one day people won't have to go to the office because of advanced computers and communications and here we are as they predicted.

My job requires me to be onsite, 5 days a week. I was back to work onsite at least 4 days a week by May 2020.

Some jobs do and I admire police, doctors, manual workers and so on, I used to commute 90 mintes each way when I lived in London. I had to get a bus and two subways to get to my office and was worn out when I arrived and then the same on the way back. Those subways were like this on my way home:

Five days a week, twice a day I faced the above scene, it was normal and unavoidable and I did that for twenty years. That's three hours per day of completely unproductive time, how is that an advanced society?

 

[Lisa558]

During COVID, I worked from home, as did my wife. Both our jobs were well suited to working from home. Going into the office would require my wife to be on the road 3 hours each day. I worked locally on an Army post and returned after COVID was over to my job site for training, but we were returned home afterward because our facility was condemned for further use because of water damage. My wife stayed out for the duration. She only went back to work to put in her retirement papers.

My contracting company had to go through the additional cost to rent a facility for our workers to return to the job site. I had to quit work before they did. The workers had no desire to go through all of the extra inconvenience of commuting. My wife and I saved a ton of money on gas and maintenance for her car and almost nothing on my vehicle. Many people quit rather than return to work every day and that is what the real reason is behind forcing the government workers to go back to work. If everyone goes back to work, costs will actually increase.

You are correct - some people will refuse to go back to the office, and that is how we will right-size the government. It’s the least painful way to do it - people “self-deport,” so to speak.

And the most likely will be the 60+ crowd - the cohort that is doing the same work they did 20 years ago, and now are paid the most because they are at Step 10.

This will be the best employees to leave - the ones who cost the most, and unnecessarily. I know people who are at GS13 step 10 for 30 years. Let them take retirement a few years ahead of time, and distribute their work among those who remain. It will be easy to do once people return to the office and work 5 days a week instead of part-time.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The plural “you.”


haha. reduced quality of service? Maybe we will finally get a DECENT quality of service once fed workers are required to WORK.

Do you work? or are you a kept woman? Have you ever had to commute hours and hours each day in pissing rain? You are - as we know - an entitled racist battle axe who thinks she's better than everyone else. You've exhibited no skills either in all the weeks I've been debating with you, you are sloppy, inaccurate and lazy, so what job could you actually do?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

More like salting leeches.....Yes.

What impact on safety would we see if say 20% of staff were fired from say the FAA? Can Musk answer that question? can you? No, so on what basis can you claim it's cost effective to fire huge numbers of people?

 

[22lcidw]

I say fine...You can go ahead and not come into the office, because you no longer have a job...

Sell the government buildings that are near empty if this cannot be fixed. Freeze the employee level. D.C. may end up with open spaces. Unfortunately, as it gets a lot of money from the federal level somehow it still has ghettos.

 

[Lisa558]

Do you work? or are you a kept woman? Have you ever had to commute hours and hours each day in pissing rain? You are - as we know - an entitled racist battle axe who thinks she's better than everyone else. You've exhibited no skills either in all the weeks I've been debating with you, you are sloppy, inaccurate and lazy.

Of course I have - five days a week - and downtown. Why should taxpayers pay fed workers full-time salaries for part-time work? Glad this scam is finally coming to an end.

And stop with your nasty insults. Don’t you libs ever learn?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are correct - some people will refuse to go back to the office, and that is how we will right-size the government. It’s the least painful way to do it - people “self-deport,” so to speak.

And the most likely will be the 60+ crowd - the cohort that is doing the same work they did 20 years ago, and now are paid the most because they are at Step 10.

This will be the best employees to leave - the ones who cost the most, and unnecessarily. I know people who are at GS13 step 10 for 30 years. Let them take retirement a few years ahead of time, and distribute their work among those who remain. It will be easy to do once people return to the office and work 5 days a week instead of part-time.

I said it was a benefit, but it depends on the job. There was zero reason for me to work in an office for my jobs and I supervised 20 people. Why not do like the Army did and just send everyone to work from home so they could use the damaged facility for some other purpose when it was repaired?

Our management systems allowed me to monitor all of my workers remotely any time I wanted. There was no going shopping or even taking an extended bathroom break that I didn't know about. It is all a matter of adapting and managing for some stay-at-home workers. I don't think we will ever get back to Pre-COVID levels and that is a good thing all around.

 

[Lisa558]

What impact on safety would we see if say 20% of staff were fired from say the FAA? Can Musk answer that question? can you? No, so on what basis can you claim it's cost effective to fire huge numbers of people?

If there are 100 employees who work only half-time, we can reduce that number to 50 employees who work full-time, and there’s no loss. But we cut compensation expenses by half.

Now extrapolate that to 3 million fed workers,

 

[22lcidw]

Why do I care? if business aren't viable then so what?

Then get a different job you bitter loser.

It is only made possible by the availability of advanced communication services and the internet. If you look back to the 1950s engineers were promising that one day people won't have to go to the office because of advanced computers and communications and here we are as they predicted.

Some jobs do and I admire police, doctors, manual workers and so on, I used to commute 90 mintes each way when I lived in London. I had to get a bus and two subways to get to my office and was worn out when I arrived and then the same on the way back. Those subways were like this on my way home:

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Five days a week, twice a day I faced the above scene, it was normal and unavoidable and I did that for twenty years. That's three hours per day of completely unproductive time, how is that an advanced society?

Move many employees to other cities. And then you will start getting some agreements. This is currently Prog advantage. Work from home in semi-rural and rural areas and not just Prog dominated suburban areas of D.C. in Virginia and Maryland. joe is making things difficult for Trump. However, it is the taxpayers that are reamed. in a pure dictatorship I would work for the Dept. of Karma/Revenge. Imagine Joe and his family in a death hunt with others who would be afforded rewards for eliminating them. TV has so much potential. The corrupted need to be reduced and in not so good times the peasants will love this.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sell the government buildings that are near empty if this cannot be fixed. Freeze the employee level. D.C. may end up with open spaces. Unfortunately, as it gets a lot of money from the federal level somehow it still has ghettos.

Ghettoes are not owned by the government. Downtown DC in the area around the National Mall was always pristine and the Metro was clean, efficient and fairly inexpensive way to get around. I never feared for my safety and there was a continuous police presence. I loved it! We should be able to make it that way again.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

If there are 100 employees who work only half-time, we can reduce that number to 50 employees who work full-time, and there’s no loss. But we cut compensation expenses by half.

Now extrapolate that to 3 million fed workers,

In my case I work ten hours typically, why? because I have no commute to or from an office and no driving to do. That means my mind is fresh and alert when I walk from my house to my Casita at 7am. where I have my office.
I eat lunch when I feel like it and eat it at my desk, when I was in an office I'd often go out for an hour to eat.

If I need to work late it's easy, I just work late and then walk back into my house, whereas before it would be more demanding because I'd get home an hour later after already working late because of the drive.

So I start and end my working day about the same times I did before Covid except this time the two hours I would be commuting are now productive working hours.

My gas costs have evaporated, I used to fill my Jeep once a week and drive 40 miles each way, and now I drive 0 miles each way.

You sound like a luddite, afraid to embrace the very technologies that our country has created and you think that making things easier for workers can only have negative consequences.

You have absolutely no idea about how some agency like the FAA operates how managers manage, how productive staff are and so on, absolutely no idea and nor does the scumbag Musk, that twat has even named his son "X" which I consider child abuse, these are all unhinged people, playing with the country like a toy and you are happy about this?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Listen to this drivel:

The new bill will ensure accountability of teleworking federal workers by requiring agencies to 'periodically review the network traffic generated by each such teleworking employee.'

It will collect the 'average number of logins made' by every employee and the average duration of their time spent on the computer network.

This is sheer lunacy, this kind of amateurish fake management is all Musk has to offer?

 

[martybegan]

Why do I care? if business aren't viable then so what?

Then get a different job you bitter loser.

It is only made possible by the availability of advanced communication services and the internet. If you look back to the 1950s engineers were promising that one day people won't have to go to the office because of advanced computers and communications and here we are as they predicted.

Some jobs do and I admire police, doctors, manual workers and so on, I used to commute 90 mintes each way when I lived in London. I had to get a bus and two subways to get to my office and was worn out when I arrived and then the same on the way back. Those subways were like this on my way home:

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Five days a week, twice a day I faced the above scene, it was normal and unavoidable and I did that for twenty years. That's three hours per day of completely unproductive time, how is that an advanced society?

Fuck you, you limey jew hating twat.

You tommy taint's butt buddy?