Speaker Johnson Orders Entire Biden Administration to Preserve and Retain All Records and Documents

[struth]

Na... He can do a Trump and declassify them all in his head and then bring them home...

Biden can then have parties and share them out with friends..

FBI might ask for them back, but they can **** off..

Um xiden did. But he was VP and Senator when he did that…he’s too senile to prosecute though

But that has nothing to do with the topic

 

[SweetTea]

He already proved he was a threat to democracy when he tried to overturn the election in 2020.

That wasn’t a conspiracy. He did that. Very openly. We have the documents. We have the tapes.

The best you can do is claim that his attempt to overturn the election wasn’t actually trying to overturn the election, but that’s because you aren’t capable of admitting it.

I see, your conspiracy theories are just better. Our Democracy will still be in place in 2028, but hopefully, many left-wing nuts and their policies won’t be.

You didn’t comment on the Hunter laptop story that was labeled as misinformation and conspiracy theory. What happened with that one?

 

[Marener]

I see, your conspiracy theories are just better. Our Democracy will still be in place in 2028, but hopefully, many left-wing nuts and their policies won’t be.

You didn’t comment on the Hunter laptop story that was labeled as misinformation and conspiracy theory. What happened with that one?

Everyone was skeptical of the laptop story, including the original authors of the story.

After the laptop was proven to be genuine years later when it was actually subject to the rule of security that it should have been initially subjected to (and wasn’t), you won’t find many people adhering to the conspiracy theory.

When your theories are disproven, you invent another theory to explain why it wasn’t disproven.

That said, you guys come up with new co piracy theories weekly. Your only conspiracy theory on the left are quite old. Hell, you’re talking about the IRS scandal from a decade ago. That’s how far back you went. (You didn’t comment on your non-factual conspiracy about the hard drive failing).

 

[struth]

Everyone was skeptical of the laptop story, including the original authors of the story.

After the laptop was proven to be genuine years later when it was actually subject to the rule of security that it should have been initially subjected to (and wasn’t), you won’t find many people adhering to the conspiracy theory.

When your theories are disproven, you invent another theory to explain why it wasn’t disproven.

That said, you guys come up with new co piracy theories weekly. Your only conspiracy theory on the left are quite old. Hell, you’re talking about the IRS scandal from a decade ago. That’s how far back you went. (You didn’t comment on your non-factual conspiracy about the hard drive failing).

Haha no, not everyone. Actually nobody was. Demafasict propagandist spread fake stories about it to spread doubt, and of course some dembots are that up.

Most normal people knew it was very real.

Sorry you fell for the lies, and drank the kool-aid…sorry you still do

 

[Marener]

Haha no, not everyone. Actually nobody was. Demafasict propagandist spread fake stories about it to spread doubt, and of course some dembots are that up.

Most normal people knew it was very real.

Sorry you fell for the lies, and drank the kool-aid…sorry you still do

Giuliani should have given the laptop to a legitimate news organization who would have properly verified the laptop with computer experts.

Don’t blame us for his bad decisions.

 

[SweetTea]

Everyone was skeptical of the laptop story, including the original authors of the story.

After the laptop was proven to be genuine years later when it was actually subject to the rule of security that it should have been initially subjected to (and wasn’t), you won’t find many people adhering to the conspiracy theory.

When your theories are disproven, you invent another theory to explain why it wasn’t disproven.

That said, you guys come up with new co piracy theories weekly. Your only conspiracy theory on the left are quite old. Hell, you’re talking about the IRS scandal from a decade ago. That’s how far back you went. (You didn’t comment on your non-factual conspiracy about the hard drive failing).

You are a lost cause. Seriously scary that so many are unable to see through the propaganda they are exposed to on a daily basis. Trump is not a threat to Democracy, FEMA did in fact politicize their assistance, Hunter laptop was in fact real, Russian collusion was a hoax, the IRS did target conservative non-profits, the FBI did lie to the FISA court, etc., etc., etc.

I don’t really care what you and others like you believe at this point. The people spoke and people like you, that refuse to acknowledge reality, are in the minority. Hopefully Trump can set back the left-wing agenda decade over the next 4 years. He can save you from yourselves, though you will likely come to this realization.

 

[struth]

Giuliani should have given the laptop to a legitimate news organization who would have properly verified the laptop with computer experts.

Don’t blame us for his bad decisions.

He didn’t have it to give to a news organization. The FBI had the laptop. You are still spread and believing debunked propaganda

He shared the story with a leg news organization, actually one of the oldest news organization in America, a paper founded by Alexander Hamilton.

 

[Marener]

You are a lost cause. Seriously scary that so many are unable to see through the propaganda they are exposed to on a daily basis. Trump is not a threat to Democracy, FEMA did in fact politicize their assistance, Hunter laptop was in fact real, Russian collusion was a hoax, the IRS did target conservative non-profits, the FBI did lie to the FISA court, etc., etc., etc.

I don’t really care what you and others like you believe at this point. The people spoke and people like you, that refuse to acknowledge reality, are in the minority. Hopefully Trump can set back the left-wing agenda decade over the next 4 years. He can save you from yourselves, though you will likely come to this realization.

You’re doing exactly what conspiracy theorists do.

You take little nuggets to justify grand conspiracies.

How many people were affected by the FEMA worker? That justifies the idea that conservatives were not receiving aid carte blanch. The IRS targeted liberal organizations as well, but you don’t talk about it. The laptop was real but failed to show anything you guys claimed about Joe Biden and corruption.

And when facts run counter to your narrative, they’re ignored.

We were told that Lerner took orders for the IRS investigations from Obama. Did that ever turn out to be true? Nope.

Can you point to conspiracy theories on the left? Sure. But at least these people demonstrate some responsiveness to factual conclusions.

Compare that to the conspiracy factory on the right that doesn’t, a characteristic that you exemplify.

There were more conspiracy theories among the right in three months after the 2020 election than a lifetime along the left and you crazies STILL believe them.

 

[Marener]

He didn’t have it to give to a news organization. The FBI had the laptop. You are still spread and believing debunked propaganda

He shared the story with a leg news organization, actually one of the oldest news organization in America, a paper founded by Alexander Hamilton.

If he wanted it to be taken seriously, he should have shared it.

Legitimate news organizations asked for a copy and were denied. That is suspicious behavior.

 

[White 6]

Agree with you...

Amazing the speaker of the house doesn't know the basics of the constitution....

I am positive, he does, but he is certainly not above political speech mongering to celebrate and entertain with the base.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump said you can. Is he wrong?

You can as pres, not vice pres. And Trump didn't declare them "personal" he declared them DECLASSIFIED. Big difference.

You seem to fail to grasp the difference between the president and vice president.

 

[Marener]

You can as pres, not vice pres. And Trump didn't declare them "personal" he declared them DECLASSIFIED. Big difference.

You seem to fail to grasp the difference between the president and vice president.

Nope. He said he can declare anything to be a personal document, which is why he or his supporters constantly talk about the Clinton tapes.

Read the legislation. VP has the same powers in the PRA as Trump.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Nope. He said he can declare anything to be a personal document, which is why he or his supporters constantly talk about the Clinton tapes.

Read the legislation. VP has the same powers in the PRA as Trump.

Ok, lets pretend the VP can declassify even though he can't. Did Biden EVER claim them to be declassified? Because he STILL has no right to remove them from the archives and put them in his garage and read them aloud for a book. And some of them are from when he was a SENATOR, who has absolutely NO ability to declassify so he stole classified documents. Period.

Even CNN says Biden read them to his "ghostwriter." Biden lied like crazy about the classified documents he had, what level of classification they were, and where they were stored. ZOMG Biden lied. Stop the presses.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/09/politics/fact-check-biden-makes-three-false-claims-about-his-handling-of-classified-information/index.html

Sorry, saying he's incompetent to stand trial means he would have if he wouldn't have been so ******* senile.

 

[Marener]

Ok, lets pretend the VP can declassify even though he can't. Did Biden EVER claim them to be declassified? Because he STILL has no right to remove them from the archives and put them in his garage and read them aloud for a book. And some of them are from when he was a SENATOR, who has absolutely NO ability to declassify so he stole classified documents. Period.

Sorry, saying he's incompetent to stand trial means he would have if he wouldn't have been so ******* senile.

Of course he has the right to remove personal documents. They belong to him. They’re his property. That’s the definition of “personal”.

 

[Marener]

Even CNN says Biden read them to his "ghostwriter."

He read from his personal notebooks, which the DoJ to be considered a diary. A diary is explicitly stated as a personal document in the PRA and the DoJ has tacitly blessed the fact that presidents and by extension vice presidents have kept personal diaries containing classified information (going back to Reagan).

Biden was not pulling out classified government documents to read to the ghostwriter.

This may seem like a minor point, but the fact that it was from his diary is significantly different than from a document.

 

[BackAgain]

I didn't know the entire Biden administration worked for Speaker Johnson.

It is known as a document preservation command. It is to ensure that documents to some prospective congressional inquiries don’t get lost or “mistakenly” destroyed. They are preserved for a period pending likely subpoenas etc.

Congressional Oversight of Executive Branch Records Preservation

U.S. executive branch agencies are subject to broad legal requirements regarding the preservation of records of official government business with potentially stiff penalties for violations that could include suspension or firing as well as criminal sanctions.

www.co-equal.org

 

[White 6]

It is known as a document preservation command. It is to ensure that documents to some prospective congressional inquiries don’t get lost or “mistakenly” destroyed. They are preserved for a period pending likely subpoenas etc.

Congressional Oversight of Executive Branch Records Preservation

U.S. executive branch agencies are subject to broad legal requirements regarding the preservation of records of official government business with potentially stiff penalties for violations that could include suspension or firing as well as criminal sanctions.

www.co-equal.org

My understanding was that kind of thing took place when a committee was assigned to investigate an issue, not pitched out at whim, if a specific issue comes up. Until they turn it over, it really doesn't seem to mean much, but something just to sound bad, as if somebody was going against all records retention acts, in place, already. Nice negative press for the cameras and appeal for the partisans.

 

[BackAgain]

My understanding was that kind of thing took place when a committee was assigned to investigate an issue, not pitched out at whim, if a specific issue comes up. Until they turn it over, it really doesn't seem to mean much, but something just to sound bad, as if somebody was going against all records retention acts, in place, already. Nice negative press for the cameras and appeal for the partisans.

In the arena of Congress’s OVERSIGHT of the Executive Branch, I am sure it has been common practice for many years to file a demand that agencies and departments NOT lose, misplace or destroy documents.

That supposedly freezes the stuff in place. Then, I can (if I’m a Congressional Committee) seek either voluntary production of certain documents or subpoena them. But with the preservation demand in place, those documents will be available.

 

[Blisterfinger]

WTF does he get the authority to do that?

I say burn them on the street in front of his house just to piss him off,

Great idea crappy! Hahaha dumbass

 

[White 6]

In the arena of Congress’s OVERSIGHT of the Executive Branch, I am sure it has been common practice for many years to file a demand that agencies and departments NOT lose, misplace or destroy documents.

That supposedly freezes the stuff in place. Then, I can (if I’m a Congressional Committee) seek either voluntary production of certain documents or subpoena them. But with the preservation demand in place, those documents will be available.

It is important, granted. But, have we seen an investigation of any government event, where there were no missing files, missing emails, MISSING SERVERS, though these same admonishments and regulations in place? I viewed it as political theater, and a checkmark on a form.