Speaker Johnson: Biden just announced that he would veto our bill to prevent noncitizens from voting

[Clipper]

I can tell you why. The majority of people don't support throwing billions at Ukraine.

Actually, the opposite is true.

 

[yidnar]

What we have is working. It's called the Constitution.

so no more new laws or strengthening of old laws eh ? and remember we also have a SC to rule on laws that are unconstitutional .

 

[pknopp]

Actually, the opposite is true.

If you say so.

 

[pknopp]

so no more new laws or strengthening of old laws eh ? and remember we also have a SC to rule on laws that are unconstitutional .

The Constitution has worked for a very long time and is still working. You can't improve upon it.

 

[Lesh]

how does strengthening security keep legal citizens from voting ..

These voter ID laws always do that to some degree.

 

[yidnar]

These voter ID laws always do that to some degree.

how ?

 

[pknopp]

how ?

It won't keep me from voting but still people want me to jump through additional hoops to continue voting.

No. I shouldn't have to go through additional steps because people are poor losers.

 

[struth]

The Constitution has worked for a very long time and is still working. You can't improve upon it.

I agree, that's why I don't understand why you have an issue with it? The 26th Amendment for example, states that US CItizens who are 18 or older can vote and that right shall not be abridged, and the goes on to say:

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation


So why are you taking issues with Congress trying to pass legislation to ensure that right isn't abridged by non-Citizens?

 

[pknopp]

I agree, that's why I don't understand why you have an issue with it? The 26th Amendment for example, states that US CItizens who are 18 or older can vote and that right shall not be abridged, and the goes on to say:

Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation


So why are you taking issues with Congress trying to pass legislation to ensure that right isn't abridged by non-Citizens?

It's enforced. You authoritarians always clamoring for new laws.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The fact that investigation after investigation, audit after audit, lawsuit after lawsuit have proved ZERO evidence.

Not even the NINJA's were able to uncover anything.

What investigations and audits proved there were no vulnerabilities or risks of non-citizens voting? HINT: don’t conflate instances with vulnerabilities and risks. I’ve been in risk management my entire professional career so I am trained to spot vulnerabilities (ie how a system or workflow can be exploited).

 

[struth]

It's enforced. You authoritarians always clamoring for new laws.

not when aliens are voting....geez man...that's why the Constitution gives the Congress power to create laws like this to simply make voters prove they are US Citizens.

why does that scare you so much? Are you not a US Citizen?

 

[pknopp]

What investigations and audits proved there were no vulnerabilities or risks of non-citizens voting? HINT: don’t conflate instances with vulnerabilities and risks. I’ve been in risk management my entire professional career so I am trained to spot vulnerabilities (ie how a system or workflow can be exploited).

This has been covered thousands of times. Get over it, you lost.

 

[LeftofLeft]

You clowns have been ranting & raving since 2020 that the election was stolen without being able to prove any of it. So now the ***** is illegals voting. It's not happening but you're just stupid enough to believe the bullshit puked by the "god lovers" like Trump & Johnson who are both bold faced liars.

Get lost.

I complained along with Democrats in 2000 that the voting system was vulnerable (remember the hanging chads?). That was when you clowns claimed the election was stolen - something you clowns did again in ‘04 and ‘16.

So, what do you say we all stop clowning around and fix the voting system?

 

[pknopp]

I complained along with Democrats in 2000 that the voting system was vulnerable (remember the hanging chads?). That was when you clowns claimed the election was stolen - something you clowns did again in ‘04 and ‘16.

So, what do you say we all stop clowning around and fix the voting system?

So they were right?

 

[LeftofLeft]

This has been covered thousands of times. Get over it, you lost.

Please name one time the vulnerabilities and risks in our voting system has been shown to have no risk of non-citizens voting?

You think my position is because of the outcome of 2020. You are wrong. I’ve been concerned about holes and vulnerabilities in the voting system pretty much my adult life (I’m in my mid 50s now). I shared these same concerns that Democrats brought up in Florida even though my guy won.

 

[pknopp]

Please name one time the vulnerabilities and risks in our voting system has been shown to have no risk of non-citizens voting?

You think my position is because of the outcome of 2020. You are wrong. I’ve been concerned about holes and vulnerabilities in the voting system pretty much my adult life (I’m in my mid 50s now). I shared these same concerns that Democrats brought up in Florida even though my guy won.

No irregularities in Florida. Bush won.

 

[LeftofLeft]

So they were right?

Democrats correctly identified flaws in the voting system in what turned out to be four of the largest Democrat precincts in the State of Florida.

My argument is not about stolen elections. My argument is about continuously identifying and addressing vulnerabilities in the voting system. Please understand the difference.

 

[LeftofLeft]

No irregularities in Florida. Bush won.

Go back and check history. Democrats identified vulnerabilities (not necessarily irregularities).

 

[pknopp]

Democrats correctly identified flaws in the voting system in what turned out to be four of the largest Democrat precincts in the State of Florida.

My argument is not about stolen elections. My argument is about continuously identifying and addressing vulnerabilities in the voting system. Please understand the difference.

Bush won.

 

[pknopp]

Go back and check history. Democrats identified vulnerabilities (not necessarily irregularities).

They are as big of cry babies as are the Republicans when they lose.