Spanberger signs bill sending VA electoral votes to winner of popular vote.

[Care4all]

District specific representing the each House Seat with 2 for the overall state representing the Senate (proportional allocation),

My state of Maine does it this way....

 

[alang1216]

If a person wins the popular vote in a state then that state's electoral votes should go to that person regardless of what the national popular vote was. If a state wants to split their electoral votes according to percentages within the state, fine. But the national popular vote should have no bearing whatsoever in how a particular state's electoral votes are distributed.

I do not know how the Supreme Court would rule on the issue of the national popular vote. But it seems wrong to allow a few of the most populous states to override several of the smaller states' choices. While it may not be specified in the Constitution, IMHO that would effectively disenfranchise the small state voters; their votes wouldn't really matter. So, I would think the Court wouldn't allow the national popular vote to override an individual state's results, absent any Congressional legislation.

Actually, the way the EC is currently set up, it effectively disenfranchises the large state voters; their votes don't count as much as small states.

 

[Marener]

Good luck with that.

Things change. It wasn’t that long ago you’d have said the same thing about Virginia.

 

[HikerGuy83]

It says this in your article....


The agreement takes effect once participating states collectively control at least 270 electoral votes, the number needed to win the presidency. Until that threshold is reached, Virginia will continue awarding its electors based on its own statewide results.

I think with VA, they are only at 220.

Virginia's voters now join the tribe of lemmings that don't appreciate just how wonderful the constitution is and what it did for them.

Morons.

 

[1srelluc]

Things change. It wasn’t that long ago you’d have said the same thing about Virginia.

Hell, that ship sailed a long time ago with W's and the halfrican's expansion of the .gov.

 

[Care4all]

It will never hold up in court.

But when the states wrote in to their election law "winner takes all electors" instead of sending electors proportionately by how their citizens voted , was this unfairness fought in the courts???

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's the kind of false equivalence bullshit that drives me crazy. trump launches a transparently corrupt, mid decade campaign to gerrymander districts, as well as efforts to end mail-in ballots and enact a national voter ID law..........that he obviously believes will benefit R's so the election can be rigged............D's in some states respond by doing their own redistricting to negate what R's did at trump's direction..........and you falsely claim both parties are at fault for trying to "weaponize the voting process." What a steaming pile.

All lovers of true democracy want the country to elect the prez by way of a national popular vote and get rid of the antiquated, anachronistic EC.

trump launches a transparently corrupt, mid decade campaign to gerrymander districts,

It's awful when the Republicans fight back.

as well as efforts to end mail-in ballots and enact a national voter ID law

I agree, ending voter fraud would be a huge negative for the Dems.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, there it is. Virginia could vote for a candidate 100% and still award the other candidate its EC votes to the other one with the most popular votes. Throw in some 6-month vote window, mail in papers, voting assistance and you have a real program going down. Vote shading and handling and misrepresenting the count so it could be sold as a "landslide". Of course, a "landslide" converts into "mandate" to enable more bullshit in the name of the People. Your vote still counts, just not how you think it does. MSN

How it this Constitutional?

 

[task0778]

How could “a few people” result in a candidate winning the national popular vote?

To win the national popular vote, it takes most of the people.

That is not what I said, you have twisted my words around and changed them to fit your ideology. Where did I say "A few people" could swing the national popular vote? Nowhere.

I am sure you are fine with the national popular vote deciding who the next president is. That is not how the original concept of our elections was meant to be. The smaller, less-populous states did not want to be overridden by the larger and more populous states and that is why the EC was created in the first place. They would not have ratified the Constitution otherwise.

 

[Marener]

Marener

That is not what I said, you have twisted my words around and changed them to fit your ideology. Where did I say "A few people" could swing the national popular vote? Nowhere.

I am sure you are fine with the national popular vote deciding who the next president is. That is not how the original concept of our elections was meant to be. The smaller, less-populous states did not want to be overridden by the larger and more populous states and that is why the EC was created in the first place. They would not have ratified the Constitution otherwise.

You’re right, I misread your comment. Sorry.

You said “a few of the most populous” states could override their vote. But again, you’re mistaken. In a national popular vote, states can’t override anything because states don’t vote.

You need to shift your mental framing and stop thinking about it as states because states become completely irrelevant.

The election would be decided by PEOPLE. Crazy, I know.

 

[Nostra]

Well well.....................look at the Islamocrat Party once again disenfranchising millions of voters.



...

 

[Nostra]

How could “a few people” result in a candidate winning the national popular vote?

To win the national popular vote, it takes most of the people.

It takes one more than the other guy, stupid. So it's actually less than a few.

 

[Nostra]

My state of Maine does it this way....

Yeah, but you are a bunch of Nazi pervs in Maine.

 

[Nostra]

How it this Constitutional?

Dude, it's the Islamocrat Cult doing this. They shit on the Constitution daily.

 

[Marener]

How it this Constitutional?

Can’t state legislatures decide how to apportion their electors votes?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The election would be decided by PEOPLE.

Then the dem voter fraud in one state could flip the entire election, instead of just the EVs of that state.

Pass.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Under the VA theory, they don't even have to give to a candidate. What's to prevent them from giving their EV to the Chief of Police?

 

[Marener]

Then the dem voter fraud in one state could flip the entire election, instead of just the EVs of that state.

Pass.

The electoral college makes the election way more susceptible to voter fraud.

It takes a small number of fraudulent votes in a small number of swing states to change the outcome.

Whereas the national popular vote almost always has a margin of millions.

 

[Nostra]

The electoral college makes the election way more susceptible to voter fraud.

It takes a small number of fraudulent votes in a small number of swing states to change the outcome.

Whereas the national popular vote almost always has a margin of millions.

Wait. What? You clowns claim there is no voter fraud.

GO ask your handlers to make up your mind, Moroner.

 

[Marener]

Wait. What? You clowns claim there is no voter fraud.

GO ask your handlers to make up your mind, Moroner.

Abstract thought is very difficult for a simpleton like you.

I mean this truly, you are very simple.