Spanberger signs bill sending VA electoral votes to winner of popular vote.

[Clyde 154]

If Virginia is going GOP, then they've probably won the popular vote.

The problem is, Virginia hasn't been a swing state since Bush won in 2004.

They'd have a better chance swinging the election by contributing to a national majority.

So let's count the votes in all 50 states instead of seven swing states. That's a crazy idea.

Deflection. Regardless of popular vote...........the fact remains, no state will be allowed to assign Federal Presidential Votes via state popular vote.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Deflection. Regardless of popular vote...........the fact remains, no state will be allowed to assign Federal Presidential Votes via state popular vote.

States already assign EC votes via a state popular vote.

WW

 

[Lisa558]

The winner of the popular vote in VA already gets all electoral votes.

 

[1srelluc]

You people (including the OP) need to read the damn article....It's a nothingburger.....Feel good crap for the dems and rage bait for the gop.

 

[Marener]

You people (including the OP) need to read the damn article....It's a nothingburger.....Feel good crap for the dems and rage bait for the gop.

Nobody is claiming it’s going to change the next election.

Just pointing out it’s one more step towards national popular vote.

 

[the watcher]

The winner of the popular vote in VA already gets all electoral votes.

Because they choose to do that. It is not mandated. It could be split.

 

[Marener]

This heavily favors the states with the largest populations that are concentrated with differing values. It does not represent different independent State's wishes in favor of mashing numbers. What do you have against the electoral congress, which correctly identifies differing regional interests?

A national popular vote doesn’t favor any state because states are irrelevant.

 

[Clyde 154]

The winner of the popular vote in VA already gets all electoral votes.

Logical Fallacy. Simply because the EC representatives were elected to office does not deflect the constitutionality and authority of the Electoral College. As proven via the popular vote going to the Va. democrats in 24 yet the democrat lost the EC and the Popular vote nationally. SCOTUS has via proxy ruled against such political tactics when it rejected the methodology of Va.s gerrymandering. A dumbocrat state will do anything to cheat and gain power. Nothing new under the sun.

 

[1srelluc]

Nobody is claiming it’s going to change the next election.

Just pointing out it’s one more step towards national popular vote.

There are only 18 blue states and all signed on to the compact.....So where are you gonna turn enough currently red states and their legislatures to bring it about?

It's not happening for my remaining time on this rock, that's for sure.

 

[Marener]

There are only 18 blue states and all signed on to the compact.....So where are you gonna turn enough currently red states and their legislatures to bring it about?

It's not happening for my remaining time on this rock, that's for sure.

Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

None of these states are irrevocably Republican.

 

[task0778]

If a person wins the popular vote in a state then that state's electoral votes should go to that person regardless of what the national popular vote was. If a state wants to split their electoral votes according to percentages within the state, fine. But the national popular vote should have no bearing whatsoever in how a particular state's electoral votes are distributed.

I do not know how the Supreme Court would rule on the issue of the national popular vote. But it seems wrong to allow a few of the most populous states to override several of the smaller states' choices. While it may not be specified in the Constitution, IMHO that would effectively disenfranchise the small state voters; their votes wouldn't really matter. So, I would think the Court wouldn't allow the national popular vote to override an individual state's results, absent any Congressional legislation.

 

[1srelluc]

Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

None of these states are irrevocably Republican.

Good luck with that.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Well, there it is. Virginia could vote for a candidate 100% and still award the other candidate its EC votes to the other one with the most popular votes. Throw in some 6-month vote window, mail in papers, voting assistance and you have a real program going down. Vote shading and handling and misrepresenting the count so it could be sold as a "landslide". Of course, a "landslide" converts into "mandate" to enable more bullshit in the name of the People. Your vote still counts, just not how you think it does. MSN

It will never hold up in court.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I do not know how the Supreme Court would rule on the issue of the national popular vote.

They will take about 20 seconds to knock it down.

 

[alang1216]

The winner of the popular vote in VA already gets all electoral votes.

Yes. Just like all but 2 of the other states.

 

[HikerGuy83]

United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 3:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."

So how does the State Legislature passing a law (then signed by the Governor) directing that EC votes be allocated based on the national popular vote violate the Constitution?

It's right there in the Constitution, they (the State) gets to select the method, they could choose:

• National Popular Vote as the method,
• State wide popular vote as the method (winner take all),
• District specific representing the each House Seat with 2 for the overall state representing the Senate (proportional allocation),
• They could choose NOT to have a vote at all and the Legislature directly appoint EC electors,
• They could choose to have round-robin elimination tournaments of tiddly-winks to choose the elector if they want.

WW

It will violate just about every voting act passed since the start of the country.

 

[Care4all]

Well, there it is. Virginia could vote for a candidate 100% and still award the other candidate its EC votes to the other one with the most popular votes. Throw in some 6-month vote window, mail in papers, voting assistance and you have a real program going down. Vote shading and handling and misrepresenting the count so it could be sold as a "landslide". Of course, a "landslide" converts into "mandate" to enable more bullshit in the name of the People. Your vote still counts, just not how you think it does. MSN

It says this in your article....


The agreement takes effect once participating states collectively control at least 270 electoral votes, the number needed to win the presidency. Until that threshold is reached, Virginia will continue awarding its electors based on its own statewide results.

I think with VA, they are only at 220.

 

[Marener]

If a person wins the popular vote in a state then that state's electoral votes should go to that person regardless of what the national popular vote was. If a state wants to split their electoral votes according to percentages within the state, fine. But the national popular vote should have no bearing whatsoever in how a particular state's electoral votes are distributed.

I do not know how the Supreme Court would rule on the issue of the national popular vote. But it seems wrong to allow a few of the most populous states to override several of the smaller states' choices. While it may not be specified in the Constitution, IMHO that would effectively disenfranchise the small state voters; their votes wouldn't really matter. So, I would think the Court wouldn't allow the national popular vote to override an individual state's results, absent any Congressional legislation.

How could “a few people” result in a candidate winning the national popular vote?

To win the national popular vote, it takes most of the people.

 

[1srelluc]

It will never hold up in court.

Well, by the time they ever get enough states to sign on the make-up of SCOTUS could have changed.

It can't be challenged now due to "no harm" as it's just currently a mere dem pipe dream.

 

[1srelluc]

It says this in your article....


The agreement takes effect once participating states collectively control at least 270 electoral votes, the number needed to win the presidency. Until that threshold is reached, Virginia will continue awarding its electors based on its own statewide results.

I think with VA, they are only at 220.

Thank you. At least you bothered to read the article.