Southern history and the truth

[AllieBaba]

Ok, there are people on here who want to claim libs are responsible for everything good since marshmallow creme, but the truth is, the Democratic party in the south, NOT the Republican party, is the party that fought civil rights for so long.

The Republican Party was created for abolitionists, by abolitionists. The Democratic Party was responsible for the "Redemption" of 1873-77, where white Southern Democrats ("Redeemers") defeated Republicans, took control of the Southern states, and began to take away rights from blacks.

Democrats were pro-slavery, democrats then (as now) objected to equality, and were responsible for Jim Crow.

Democrats are the reason the south was such a mess in the 60s, when Martin Luther King, Jr. and activists began their protests.

With regards to "black rule", here is the history of that:

When the South was conquered, and supported by the Military Reconstruction Act (1867) the southern state governments were replaced based on a Republican coalition of freedmen...."carpetbaggers and scalaways" per Wiki.

Carpetbaggers were Northerners who moved to the South between 1865-77. They formed a coalition with freed slaves and "scalawags" (Southern whites who espoused the reconstruction) and in turn controleed the confederate states.

Are you getting a picture? People were kicked out of southern political and economic offices, and positions of power were filled by northerners, southern traitors and blacks. The south retaliated with the KKK and the "Redeemers" and again took rights away from blacks in those states.

If they were terrorists, some would say they were justified!

Now you know, and you'll know better than to scoff at historical references when you have no knowledge of what you're scoffing at.

 

[ReillyT]

People were kicked out of southern political and economic offices, and positions of power were filled by northerners, southern traitors and blacks.

Actually, since the North won the war, I don't think that the southerners you are referring to would be classified as "traitors." Maybe all the other southerners, but not them.

 

[Care4all]

Ok, there are people on here who want to claim libs are responsible for everything good since marshmallow creme, but the truth is, the Democratic party in the south, NOT the Republican party, is the party that fought civil rights for so long.

The Republican Party was created for abolitionists, by abolitionists. The Democratic Party was responsible for the "Redemption" of 1873-77, where white Southern Democrats ("Redeemers") defeated Republicans, took control of the Southern states, and began to take away rights from blacks.

Democrats were pro-slavery, democrats then (as now) objected to equality, and were responsible for Jim Crow.

Democrats are the reason the south was such a mess in the 60s, when Martin Luther King, Jr. and activists began their protests.

With regards to "black rule", here is the history of that:

When the South was conquered, and supported by the Military Reconstruction Act (1867) the southern state governments were replaced based on a Republican coalition of freedmen...."carpetbaggers and scalaways" per Wiki.

Carpetbaggers were Northerners who moved to the South between 1865-77. They formed a coalition with freed slaves and "scalawags" (Southern whites who espoused the reconstruction) and in turn controleed the confederate states.

Are you getting a picture? People were kicked out of southern political and economic offices, and positions of power were filled by northerners, southern traitors and blacks. The south retaliated with the KKK and the "Redeemers" and again took rights away from blacks in those states.

If they were terrorists, some would say they were justified!

Now you know, and you'll know better than to scoff at historical references when you have no knowledge of what you're scoffing at.

Yes, times change, and the Democrats that were bigots, left the Democratic Party when Strom Thurmond ran for President as a DixieCrat, after the losses of the Dixicrats they JOINED the REPUBLICAN party, in the South...

Didn't you know this....?

Care

 

[AllieBaba]

Actually, since the North won the war, I don't think that the southerners you are referring to would be classified as "traitors." Maybe all the other southerners, but not them.

They were traitors to the Confederacy.

Is that all you have to say?

 

[AllieBaba]

Yes, times change, and the Democrats that were bigots, left the Democratic Party when Strom Thurmond ran for President as a DixieCrat, after the losses of the Dixicrats they JOINED the REPUBLICAN party, in the South...

Didn't you know this....?

Care

I knew it. Libs on this site didn't.

Just because they ran to the Republican Party doesn't mean anything. They just tainted us as well.

The fact is, liberal policies and democratic policies are racist policies. I'm tired of the left insisting otherwise, and LYING about our history, and the history of racist policy, particularly in the South.

 

[ReillyT]

They were traitors to the Confederacy.

Is that all you have to say?

What did you want me to say?

 

[AllieBaba]

Nothing at all. Just continue to ask stupid questions which have obvious answers, if it makes you feel good.

 

[ReillyT]

I knew it. Libs on this site didn't.

You must get so excited when you realize that you know something.

 

[ReillyT]

Nothing at all. Just continue to ask stupid questions which have obvious answers, if it makes you feel good.

I didn't ask a question. I just pointed out that who precisely was a "traitor" depends on the context.

 

[AllieBaba]

It's called "diverting". Don't focus on the topic, instead use techniques meant to distract. It's annoying.

 

[AllieBaba]

You must get so excited when you realize that you know something.

If that were true, I'd be excited all the time.

 

[ReillyT]

It's called "diverting". Don't focus on the topic, instead use techniques meant to distract. It's annoying.

What exactly is the topic? Is it that you have demonstrated you know something.

 

[AllieBaba]

That's a diversion too.

 

[Shogun]

this thread totally makes my day.

 

[CrimsonWhite]

Ok, there are people on here who want to claim libs are responsible for everything good since marshmallow creme, but the truth is, the Democratic party in the south, NOT the Republican party, is the party that fought civil rights for so long.

The Republican Party was created for abolitionists, by abolitionists. The Democratic Party was responsible for the "Redemption" of 1873-77, where white Southern Democrats ("Redeemers") defeated Republicans, took control of the Southern states, and began to take away rights from blacks.

Democrats were pro-slavery, democrats then (as now) objected to equality, and were responsible for Jim Crow.

Democrats are the reason the south was such a mess in the 60s, when Martin Luther King, Jr. and activists began their protests.

With regards to "black rule", here is the history of that:

When the South was conquered, and supported by the Military Reconstruction Act (1867) the southern state governments were replaced based on a Republican coalition of freedmen...."carpetbaggers and scalaways" per Wiki.

Carpetbaggers were Northerners who moved to the South between 1865-77. They formed a coalition with freed slaves and "scalawags" (Southern whites who espoused the reconstruction) and in turn controleed the confederate states.

Are you getting a picture? People were kicked out of southern political and economic offices, and positions of power were filled by northerners, southern traitors and blacks. The south retaliated with the KKK and the "Redeemers" and again took rights away from blacks in those states.

If they were terrorists, some would say they were justified!

Now you know, and you'll know better than to scoff at historical references when you have no knowledge of what you're scoffing at.

I swear, you read "History for Dummies," becaause this is very simplistic. You should really consider suing your high school history teacher.

P.S. All of my Great Great Grandfathers wore Gray from 1861-1865. None wore white afterward. Are they the traitors you are refering to?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I swear, you read "History for Dummies," becaause this is very simplistic. You should really consider suing your high school history teacher.

P.S. All of my Great Great Grandfathers wore Gray from 1861-1865. None wore white afterward. Are they the traitors you are refering to?

Reading comprehension is your friend.

 

[Toro]

The logic is specious.

Allie, you keep interchanging the term "Republicans" with "conservatives." They are not the same.

Republicans were the party of abolitionists, but southern conservatives - the ones that dominate the Republican party today - were not, and fought all the way against emancipation, from the ending of slavery to civil rights. Conservatives used to dominate the southern Democratic party.

Several years ago, I heard Newt Gingrich say that conservatives were wrong to oppose the civil rights movement in the 1960s. Gingrich said "conservatives," not Republicans.

Most Republicans and conservatives are not racists - on this board, RGS has been very vocal calling out some of the racist posts that get on this board for example - but the Republican party has played footsies with racists here in the south. Reagan, a President I generally admire, announced his candidacy in Philadelphia MS, the town where the events depicted in the movie, Mississippi Burning, took place. Bush II gave a speech at Bob Jones University when he was running for the nomination, a university that forbade interracial dating. Remember the vociferous opposition of the South Carolina Republicans to the removal of the Confederate flag from the legislature (compared to when Jeb Bush removed the flag from the Florida legislature without any fanfare)?

So saying that "conservatives" fought to end slavery and racism here in the South is simply wrong.

 

[jillian]

She already has been told all of that. Gotta give her credit, though, no matter how ignorant her statements and no matter how many ways she twists to try to overcome having had her butt kicked, she keeps on ticking... better than a Timex and generally amusing.

 

[dread]

She already has been told all of that. Gotta give her credit, though, no matter how ignorant her statements and no matter how many ways she twists to try to overcome having had her butt kicked, she keeps on ticking... better than a Timex and generally amusing.

For someone who likes to dictate manors to everyone SHE DOESN"T like, I find it hypocritical of you when you offer NONE in return.

 

[BrianH]

She already has been told all of that. Gotta give her credit, though, no matter how ignorant her statements and no matter how many ways she twists to try to overcome having had her butt kicked, she keeps on ticking... better than a Timex and generally amusing.