SOURCE: Shutdown Agreement Reached, Announcement Set for 1PM

[kyzr]

Trump got what he was willing to accept regrading a budget before Ann Coulter and other conservative talking heads bashed him. I liked his announcement, time for congress to step up and implement some changes both sides have been wanting for quite awhile.

DACA as a minimum

A permanent DACA solution is necessary in return for a wall

Coulter and Company will not buy it

Permanent green cards is doable, but not a path to citizenship. We'll see what happens in 3-weeks.
I hope Trump starts deporting the DACA illegals if he doesn't get his wall funding.

 

[bodecea]

You see what these pathetic MONKEES are? They yell that Trump caused the shutdown, blame him for the poor people not getting paid, then laugh when he opens it up so those poor people get paid.

Piss on a liberal's grave. That is all they are worth.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He did the right thing. My opinion of him has gone up.


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Come on, it has nothing to do with "the right thing." He's staring Zeropercent growth in the face, and the gop senate is preparing to abandon him over the polls.

NOTHING Trump does is consistent with a single unifying principle or belief - it's all transactional with no interrelation. For example, he wanted to withdraw from Nato while simultaneously taking on China over trade ... all while China is opening trade with the EU.

This is why our country is going down the shitter. Anyone someone does something like what Trump did they are demonized for it. This was the right thing to do, can we not just leave it at that and then let the two sides hash it out without both sides attacking just for the sake of partisanship.

the right thing to do was not shutting the govt in the first place. Trump caved to two RW radio hosts. People have lost jobs, and not just federal workers temporarily forced to work without pay.

Trump only caved when it was inescapable that Pelosi called his threat, and she was willing to see the country go into recession rather than give into extortion that would be repeated over and over whenever Trump, and possibly future potuses, failed to persuade and compromise with congress. The econ was going to hit a wall, and McConnell was losing his ability to hold 40 votes to continue the shutdown

this has nothing to do with "doing the right thing." It's about what is best for Trump.

Telling that you are ok with the Dems letting the economy go into a recession just to avoid negotiating with Trump. You know I am no fan of Trump, but I have to call it like I see it.

 

[Nosmo King]

Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached

From what I see it's a 3 week continuance.

Let's see if the Dems will actually negotiate now, or will they just keep demanding their way or the highway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump's position 'my way or the highway'?

Shutting down the government is not the way political agendas are accomplished in this nation. Autocracies maybe, but not in a nation with three coequal branches of government. Shutting down the government is not the way to advance legislation either. And neither is declaring a National Emergency when no such emergency exists.

When a Democrat once again sits in the Oval Office, would it be appropriate to declare gun violence a National Emergency? Climate change? Wealth disparity? These three issues pose a much more dire and immediate threat to national security. A couple thousand foot sore Guatemalans can't threaten the security of the United States anymore than the Kiwanis or the Rotary Clubs can.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump let me down. I am not happy whatsoever.

-Geaux

Neither are Coulter or Rush.

Bad move for Trump that will burn him for years to come

-Geaux

how dare him do the right thing! folks like you will never let him live it down!

you are no better than all the Dems gloating about this.

 

[Baz Ares]

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Get you DOPer new hat now!

 

[Claudette]

Three weeks huh?? A lot can happen in three weeks. Like a declared National Emergency.

Should be interesting.

 

[DJT for Life]

Trump did the right thing. The wrong people were suffering during all of this.

He has now put the ball in the court of the Dems.

Shutdowns are a terrible waste of money, anyone that does not like to see their tax dollars wasted should be happy....guess we know where you stand on that

Your second paragraph is the operative paragraph.

In his address he stated very clearly that a number of Democrats are
already on board that the country needs a wall.

He went on to remark that both sides have agreed to reach a proposal
that will be good to all parties involved.

As you wrote, he has passed along the shutting down of government
over to the Democrats. At the same time, he has allowed everybody
with a way to "save face."

The Bi-partisan committee is going to formulate its resolution on the
word of the experts provided by Homeland Security.

On February 15th we can expect money for the wall and other forms
of security. Pelosi has been given "cover" to accept the opinion of
"experts." He followed Schumer's advice to reopen the government
and negotiate.

It's all on the Dems now. (And he still retain the option of declaring
a National Emergency). That would include a motion to the SCOTUS to
place a "stay" on any order from a lower court judge, that until the case
could be heard, the NE would stay in effect.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached

From what I see it's a 3 week continuance.

Let's see if the Dems will actually negotiate now, or will they just keep demanding their way or the highway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump's position 'my way or the highway'?

clearly not. Trump is the one that made the compromise, not the Dems.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You see what these pathetic MONKEES are? They yell that Trump caused the shutdown, blame him for the poor people not getting paid, then laugh when he opens it up so those poor people get paid.

Piss on a liberal's grave. That is all they are worth.

I can not disagree with you on this. For whatever reason he might have had, Trump did the right thing. The Dems should be happy, but instead they use it to attack even more...and then people wonder why our country is going down the shitter.

Sorry..but we're PISSED that it came to this in the first place

Shit happens, staying pissed off does not help us to move into the future.

Get over it.

 

[kyzr]

Pelosi kicked his ass

We'll see what happens in 3-weeks won't we?

 

[Natural Citizen]

In case you had not noticed, there is no where to run dingleberry

Who said anything about running? What kind of inept kindergarten babble is that?

I intend to fight! We've still got a handful of good people in Congress. It sure as sht won't be said we stood around and did nothing.

 

[jasonnfree]

The government reopened to pay the government workers. After three weeks if democrat leaders continue to prove not caring about our border. Trump will declare the emergency to build the wall.

There's no emergency. The undocumented are not coming here in droves like before and the drugs will get here no matter what. The p.o.s. in the oval office just wanted to hold a shutdown no matter how it hurt the country.

 

[OldLady]

You see what these pathetic MONKEES are? They yell that Trump caused the shutdown, blame him for the poor people not getting paid, then laugh when he opens it up so those poor people get paid.

Piss on a liberal's grave. That is all they are worth.

I can not disagree with you on this. For whatever reason he might have had, Trump did the right thing. The Dems should be happy, but instead they use it to attack even more...and then people wonder why our country is going down the shitter.

I haven't found any kind of official Democratic response yet or information on what the agreements were that caused the Pres to relent. You got anything yet?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You see what these pathetic MONKEES are? They yell that Trump caused the shutdown, blame him for the poor people not getting paid, then laugh when he opens it up so those poor people get paid.

Piss on a liberal's grave. That is all they are worth.

I can not disagree with you on this. For whatever reason he might have had, Trump did the right thing. The Dems should be happy, but instead they use it to attack even more...and then people wonder why our country is going down the shitter.

I haven't found any kind of official Democratic response yet or information on what the agreements were that caused the Pres to relent. You got anything yet?

Personally I think it was the damage being done to the economy that got him moving. Once air travel was getting impacted he had to do something.

 

[S.J.]

The wall is gonna be built. He knows the Dems will not voluntarily fund it. By reopening the government today, he puts the ball in their court to reach an agreement on border security. If they say "**** you", Trump will declare a national emergency and build the wall anyway and the American people will support it.

 

[Nosmo King]

Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached

From what I see it's a 3 week continuance.

Let's see if the Dems will actually negotiate now, or will they just keep demanding their way or the highway.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump's position 'my way or the highway'?

clearly not. Trump is the one that made the compromise, not the Dems.

Only after 30 days of government shut down and the reaction of an indignant country.

 

[Claudette]

Trump did the right thing. The wrong people were suffering during all of this.

He has now put the ball in the court of the Dems.

Shutdowns are a terrible waste of money, anyone that does not like to see their tax dollars wasted should be happy....guess we know where you stand on that

Your second paragraph is the operative paragraph.

In his address he stated very clearly that a number of Democrats are
already on board that the country needs a wall.

He went on to remark that both sides have agreed to reach a proposal
that will be good to all parties involved.

As you wrote, he has passed along the shutting down of government
over to the Democrats. At the same time, he has allowed everybody
with a way to "save face."

The Bi-partisan committee is going to formulate its resolution on the
word of the experts provided by Homeland Security.

On February 15th we can expect money for the wall and other forms
of security. Pelosi has been given "cover" to accept the opinion of
"experts." He followed Schumer's advice to reopen the government
and negotiate.

It's all on the Dems now. (And he still retain the option of declaring
a National Emergency). That would include a motion to the SCOTUS to
place a "stay" on any order from a lower court judge, that until the case
could be heard, the NE would stay in effect.

Damned impressive.

 

[Theowl32]

The government reopened to pay the government workers. After three weeks if democrat leaders continue to prove not caring about our border. Trump will declare the emergency to build the wall.

Then a federal judge will block it.

Wall won't be built, like I said all along. The left are losers and that includes republicans.

Start getting ready for socialism.

10 dollars a gallon for gas
Mass taxes on use of air conditioning and other luxuries that only rich socialists should enjoy.
Unreal long waits to see a doctor.
Stock up on as many tubes of toothpaste and over the counter medicine now.
That is my suggestion.

 

[xyz]

Why didn't he shut the government down when the Republicans held the house? They also didn't fund the wall.