Sorry Trumpers ... This Measure Says Growth Is Slower Under Trump Than Obama

[kiwiman127]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wow, 1144 days, isn't that more days than Trump has been in office?

I counted from the day after the election. That is when most people start to give him credit for the markets.

And some experts are saying the new trade deals will add between .5-1% to GDP growth. I'd say the country will be the winner in the long run. Once again, what could have been if not for the commies resistance?

.

Who? Which experts?

 

[OKTexas]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

 

[kiwiman127]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

Well,,,,,,,from Forbes.
Trump’s Budget Deficits Could Almost Double Obama’s

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

And you cared then and do not care now....that is what makes you a partisan sheep

 

[Dana7360]

He WILL have another 4 years, he will also be the first president in decades to have ZERO recession in the first term. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon all had recessions in their first term.

Interesting that you give blame for a recession to a president even if it started before they were elected.

But that aside, Trump, if he gets another 4 years, will have a recession, will you give him the blame for it?

You're asking a person who blames Obama for the bush boy Great Recession to put blame for any recession trump causes on trump?

 

[OKTexas]

Wow, 1144 days, isn't that more days than Trump has been in office?

I counted from the day after the election. That is when most people start to give him credit for the markets.

And some experts are saying the new trade deals will add between .5-1% to GDP growth. I'd say the country will be the winner in the long run. Once again, what could have been if not for the commies resistance?

.

Who? Which experts?

Only reason Trump was given credit since the election is the markets didn't crash the way many pundits said it would.

Sec. Mnuchin: USMCA deal will add more than 0.5% to GDP growth

Larry Kudlow expects USMCA, U.S.-China deal to add 0.5% to GDP in 2020

USMCA to add $68.2B to US economy, spur 176k jobs says key independent review panel

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[Harpy Eagle]

Wow, 1144 days, isn't that more days than Trump has been in office?

I counted from the day after the election. That is when most people start to give him credit for the markets.

And some experts are saying the new trade deals will add between .5-1% to GDP growth. I'd say the country will be the winner in the long run. Once again, what could have been if not for the commies resistance?

.

Who? Which experts?

Only reason Trump was given credit since the election is the markets didn't crash the way many pundits said it would.

Sec. Mnuchin: USMCA deal will add more than 0.5% to GDP growth

Larry Kudlow expects USMCA, U.S.-China deal to add 0.5% to GDP in 2020

USMCA to add $68.2B to US economy, spur 176k jobs says key independent review panel

.

Thanks for the links. You will forgive me if I ignore the first two, they are not exactly unbiased parties.

The third one makes the point we...$68.2 billion to the U.S. economy and create 176,000 new jobs

Those numbers are for the lifespan of the deal...16 years. That comes out to 11,000 new jobs a year...that is not moving the needle much at all. They are not bad numbers, but they just further reinforce my view it is nothing but a tweak of NAFTA

 

[B. Kidd]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

Well,,,,,,,from Forbes.
Trump’s Budget Deficits Could Almost Double Obama’s

The main operative word for you losers is always 'could'.
(Or may, might, and/or possibly).

 

[OKTexas]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

Well,,,,,,,from Forbes.
Trump’s Budget Deficits Could Almost Double Obama’s

That's one guys opinion, we'll see if it holds water in an expanding economy.

.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

Well,,,,,,,from Forbes.
Trump’s Budget Deficits Could Almost Double Obama’s

That's one guys opinion, we'll see if it holds water in an expanding economy.

.

How much longer do you suspect it will continue to expand given that we have blown past the record for expansion this past summer?

When the last recession hit our deficit tripled in a year, do you think we can absorb 3.5 trillion dollar deficit in a year?

 

[OKTexas]

Wow, 1144 days, isn't that more days than Trump has been in office?

I counted from the day after the election. That is when most people start to give him credit for the markets.

And some experts are saying the new trade deals will add between .5-1% to GDP growth. I'd say the country will be the winner in the long run. Once again, what could have been if not for the commies resistance?

.

Who? Which experts?

Only reason Trump was given credit since the election is the markets didn't crash the way many pundits said it would.

Sec. Mnuchin: USMCA deal will add more than 0.5% to GDP growth

Larry Kudlow expects USMCA, U.S.-China deal to add 0.5% to GDP in 2020

USMCA to add $68.2B to US economy, spur 176k jobs says key independent review panel

.

Thanks for the links. You will forgive me if I ignore the first two, they are not exactly unbiased parties.

The third one makes the point we...$68.2 billion to the U.S. economy and create 176,000 new jobs

Those numbers are for the lifespan of the deal...16 years. That comes out to 11,000 new jobs a year...that is not moving the needle much at all. They are not bad numbers, but they just further reinforce my view it is nothing but a tweak of NAFTA

From the third link you seem to like so much, remember that article only considers USMCA and didn't include the effects of the China deal.

While the 0.35 percent growth to GDP and 0.12 percent increase in employment in the first six years after implementation is relatively modest growth, White House officials were more concerned with the actual release of the study, which was a necessary step before Congress can act.

.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

From the third link you seem to like so much, remember that article only considers USMCA and didn't include the effects of the China deal.

While the 0.35 percent growth to GDP and 0.12 percent increase in employment in the first six years after implementation is relatively modest growth, White House officials were more concerned with the actual release of the study, which was a necessary step before Congress can act.

.

I liked it because it was not from the Trump administration. I am not sure about you, but I do not put much stock in what any administration tells me, they all tend to elaborate..to put it politely.

As for the China deal, all we have heard about Phase 1 is that it basically resets things to 18 months ago. Trump pulls back some tariffs and China goes back to buy more Ag products. Great news for me, but not sure it will help the economy much.

 

[ph3iron]

It's the democrat tactic. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it. They have been saying they were going to lie about the economy since summer.

Which part of this is a lie?

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All of it. You can get a chart or statistic to say any thing. Democrats have been lying about the economy for months. You will continue to lie about the economy because that is all you have.

Thank you for highlighting your ignorance...It is always good to see someone like you that embraces being an ignorant fool.

You are expecting trumpanzees to research graphs?
Too much to ask

 

[OKTexas]

The Last Refuge

Forced by Reality – The Washington Post Cancels the Recession…

Excerpt:

In July and August the U.S. was heading into a recession according to the media. The Washington Post was at the forefront of the recession narrative with multiple articles predicting certain doom for the U.S. economy…. except there was a problem. All of the economic data would not support their predictions. Things only got better.

The media gnashed their horrible teeth and stomped their horrible feet; alas Main Street continued to get stronger; wages higher, unemployment lower, and more middle-class Americans gaining strength and financial footing. The media shouted at trees hoping and praying their predictions would soon evidence and the economy would throw itself into reverse. Foiled again, it just never happened. Democrats have permanent frowns.

Today the Washington Post admits defeat, informs their audience that cheering for economic collapse is futile, and states, reluctantly, the U.S. is unlikely to enter a recession:

LINK

==============

No recession during the Trump era.

IF Trump gets another 4 years there will be a recession during the Trump era. The only question is how deep.

Considering Trump's first three years of padding an already growing and healthy economy an additional $3 trillion dollars, with trillion dollar annual deficits into the foreseeable future,when a recession hits, the US will be up shit creek.
Of course our economy is continuing the same projectile Trump inherited, but then he threw trillions of dollars into the economy. Obama had four straight years of sub trillion deficits and the economy grew.
So, Obama grew the economy while cutting deficits, Trump continued the growth while almost doubling the deficits. That approach has a short term effect. But in long term, annual trillion dollar deficits will have along term effect and it isn't going to be good, at all.

Yet maobama added more than 9 trillion to the national debt during his term, go figure.

.

And you cared then and do not care now....that is what makes you a partisan sheep

Nope, just pointing out the commie has no room to talk. We'll never get the debt under control until congress pulls it's head out and starts to address entitlements. That applies to both parties.

.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nope, just pointing out the commie has no room to talk. We'll never get the debt under control until congress pulls it's head out and starts to address entitlements. That applies to both parties.

.

That will never happen till the voters hold them accountable...which will never happen because the powers that be were smart enough to make the two sides hate each other

 

[B. Kidd]

From the third link you seem to like so much, remember that article only considers USMCA and didn't include the effects of the China deal.

While the 0.35 percent growth to GDP and 0.12 percent increase in employment in the first six years after implementation is relatively modest growth, White House officials were more concerned with the actual release of the study, which was a necessary step before Congress can act.

.

I liked it because it was not from the Trump administration. I am not sure about you, but I do not put much stock in what any administration tells me, they all tend to elaborate..to put it politely.

As for the China deal, all we have heard about Phase 1 is that it basically resets things to 18 months ago. Trump pulls back some tariffs and China goes back to buy more Ag products. Great news for me, but not sure it will help the economy much.

Most American financial rags are pro-Globalist, including the WSJ.
Trump isn't.
You haven't figured this out, dummy!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

From the third link you seem to like so much, remember that article only considers USMCA and didn't include the effects of the China deal.

While the 0.35 percent growth to GDP and 0.12 percent increase in employment in the first six years after implementation is relatively modest growth, White House officials were more concerned with the actual release of the study, which was a necessary step before Congress can act.

.

I liked it because it was not from the Trump administration. I am not sure about you, but I do not put much stock in what any administration tells me, they all tend to elaborate..to put it politely.

As for the China deal, all we have heard about Phase 1 is that it basically resets things to 18 months ago. Trump pulls back some tariffs and China goes back to buy more Ag products. Great news for me, but not sure it will help the economy much.

Most American financial rags are pro-Globalist, including the WSJ.
Trump isn't.
You haven't figured this out, dummy!

He was pretty much a Globalist till he choose to run for POTUS as a Repub and not a Dem, then he found the song of the siren that he knew would get him the nomination.

 

[OKTexas]

He WILL have another 4 years, he will also be the first president in decades to have ZERO recession in the first term. Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Nixon all had recessions in their first term.

Interesting that you give blame for a recession to a president even if it started before they were elected.

But that aside, Trump, if he gets another 4 years, will have a recession, will you give him the blame for it?

You're asking a person who blames Obama for the bush boy Great Recession to put blame for any recession trump causes on trump?

Bullshit, it was the commies in congress that ignored the warnings about the housing bubble. Remember when buttfuck Barney said Freddie and Fanny were solid, just before the crash and refused to address the systemic problems?

.

 

[B. Kidd]

From the third link you seem to like so much, remember that article only considers USMCA and didn't include the effects of the China deal.

While the 0.35 percent growth to GDP and 0.12 percent increase in employment in the first six years after implementation is relatively modest growth, White House officials were more concerned with the actual release of the study, which was a necessary step before Congress can act.

.

I liked it because it was not from the Trump administration. I am not sure about you, but I do not put much stock in what any administration tells me, they all tend to elaborate..to put it politely.

As for the China deal, all we have heard about Phase 1 is that it basically resets things to 18 months ago. Trump pulls back some tariffs and China goes back to buy more Ag products. Great news for me, but not sure it will help the economy much.

Most American financial rags are pro-Globalist, including the WSJ.
Trump isn't.
You haven't figured this out, dummy!

He was pretty much a Globalist till he choose to run for POTUS as a Repub and not a Dem, then he found the song of the siren that he knew would get him the nomination.

But he got it.....and has successfully run with it!