Sorry Trumpers ... This Measure Says Growth Is Slower Under Trump Than Obama

You're blind if you don't see it. 5 years ago I wouldn't of been able to buy the land I did this year. Believe me, this economy is way better now then when Obama was in office. It was stagnant then.

Again, your stories do not sway me, for all I know you are 22 year old kid living in your families basement.

Data and facts...that is all I want to see on this forum...not stories.

I'm in construction, I barely made it by under Obama. Now it's booming, and I'll be 50 next year.

You were too busy earning a living to make money. Work smart not hard.
Oh no, there was hardly any work under Obama's economy. I mean he did ask where Trump's magic wand was, he also told us slow growth was the new norm in America. So are you saying Obama was lying again?

Not sure what you build, but new housing starts has been going up for almost 10 years, and is leveling off under Trump

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Not here, subdivisions that were put on hold under Obama are being finished out as we speak and new ones are being built as we speak. Don't worry, Trump will be YOUR president till 2024.
 
It's the democrat tactic. Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it. They have been saying they were going to lie about the economy since summer.

Which part of this is a lie?

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All of it. You can get a chart or statistic to say any thing. Democrats have been lying about the economy for months. You will continue to lie about the economy because that is all you have.


Who specifically has been lying about the economy? If it wasn't for vague generalizations, many of you here would be unable to post anything.

The factual complaint about the economy is that a worker who makes the federal minimum wage of $7.25 and works a 40 hour week (after taxes, approximately $950-1000/month) can't afford housing after paying for food and a car. 3/4 of the people in this country are stuck with low-paying jobs since they do not have a college degree. So they get second and third jobs to get by and live paycheck to paycheck.

That's not a great economy.

That's the facts, and you right wing cockroaches don't want to acknowledge them.
 
Sorry to burst the cloud over your mind Trumpers. Your delusions are precious to you but I have to prick that orange bubble that has you howling with joy at Trump rallies as lies fall faster from Trump's mouth than Autumn leaves.

Sorry darlings, "According to BEA data, GDI has grown at a 2.3% annualized pace since Trump took office, vs. 2.4% during Obama’s two terms."

Apologies for pricking your orange bubble. Donald Trump is bloating the economy with tax cuts for the rich and burgeoning debt but still can't beat Obama.

Donald Trump has rendered the economy obese and debt-ridden with debt rising faster at >2 x GDP growth.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This Measure Says Growth Is Slower Under Trump Than Obama

Gross domestic income should in theory track GDP, but it tells a slightly different story.

By
Justin Fox
September 23, 2019, 11:00 PM GMT+7
1200x-1.jpg

ILLUSTRATION: GEORGE WYLESOL FOR BLOOMBERG BUSINESSWEEK

The economy has been perhaps the brightest spot of Donald Trump’s unconventional presidency. A recession would tarnish this, which is presumably why he gets so worked up about perceived missteps by the Federal Reserve. But by one measure, economic growth is already slower during the Trump era than during Barack Obama’s eight years as president.
That measure is gross domestic income. GDI is part of the same quarterly national economic accounting by the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Economic Analysis that gives us gross domestic product but is released a month later. The two numbers should, in theory, be identical, but they never quite are because of the vagaries of real-world data. In a 2010 paper, economist Jeremy Nalewaik—then at the Fed, now at Morgan Stanley—made the case that “GDI better reflects the business cycle fluctuations in true output growth.”

publishing the average of GDP and GDI. Also, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia now calculates a statistically smoothed melding of GDP and GDI, devised in part by Nalewaik, that it calls GDPplus. The presidential growth rates admittedly depend a lot on the starting quarter one chooses, especially for Obama, who took office amid the worst recession in 75 years. Also, while growth rates have been about the same or only moderately higher under Trump, people aren’t wrong to think the economy is better. More are sharing in growth now because the long expansion has brought workers off the sidelines.

• Timing Is Everything

If you measure from the quarter before they took office, Trump leads in GDI growth, 2.5% to 2.1%. Measure from the last quarter of the first year in office (because it takes time for policies to have an effect), and it’s Trump 2.5% to Obama 2.4%.



• Smooth Calculator
According to BEA data, GDI has grown at a 2.3% annualized pace since Trump took office, vs. 2.4% during Obama’s two terms.

• On the Job
Payroll employment has grown at a 1.5%annual pace during Trump’s time in office, faster than the 1% during Obama’s entire presidency but slower than the 1.9% of Obama’s second term.
Real annualized growth rate from first quarter of administration

Data: Bureau of Economic Analysis

• But Wait, It Gets Better
Of Americans age 25-54, 80% had jobs in August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the highest prime-age employment rate in more than a decade and perhaps a better measure of economic health than either GDP or GDI growth.


In general they dont care as long as they're pulling down steady pay and thier 401ks are through the roof
 
Are you on drugs?
Nassau County was dead for 8 years; the whole country was dead for 8 years.
My son-in-law actually travels to survey commercial property and the way you present your numbers is bullshit.
And I blame GW and Obama.

Yes, I have heard this same bullshit story before. And that is all it is, just a story. If you cannot support it with data I do not believe it.
I realize you never get out into the real world and you moved to a city far away from civilization to avoid competition in order to get a job.
I can show you that the economy was very strong until one second before...the Great Depression, the DOM COM crash and the Housing crash; because rolled up numbers are bullshit.
It kills you that Trump is not an ex-military robot.

I work/live in a metro area of just under 3 million people. Not sure what the fuck you are talking about.
If you live in a "metropolis" that isn't booming then your definition of a metropolis is warped.
Business is booming everywhere and my son-in-law is constantly travelling to survey properties.
 
Trump's list of "promises kept" (courtesy of kyzr )

JOBS

Signed the first major tax reform in 30 years.
Federal revenues are increasing as the economy grows. April 2018 had a record surplus of $214 billion.
Over 500 companies (507) have announced bonuses, wage increases, and new investments.
Businesses have invested $482 billion in new American projects and employees.
More than 4.8 million workers received increased wages or bonuses (3.7% of all private workers).
Provided $1.5 trillion in tax cuts to individuals.
American families received $3.2 trillion in gross tax cuts and saw the child tax credit double.
A family of four making $73,000 will get a cut of over $2,000-cutting their taxes in half.
Nearly doubled the standard deduction.
Repealed Obamacare’s burdensome individual mandate.
The bill provides a 20% deduction for small business income, which means $415 billion tax cut.
Lowered the corporate tax rate from the highest in the industrialized world (35%) to 21%.
Since President Trump was elected, the American economy has added 3.7 million jobs. One in every 10 of those jobs has been in manufacturing.
Executive Order to create apprenticeship programs, providing many more Americans access to an affordable education that leads to a well-paying job.

ECONOMY

Eliminated regulations at a two-to-one ratio, issuing 2 deregulatory actions for every new regulatory action.
Rolled back rules and regulations harming farmers and energy producers, such as the Waters of the United States Rule and the Clean Power Plan.
Regional and community banks and credit unions got relief after President Trump signed legislation reducing harmful requirements imposed by the Dodd-Frank Act.
Since President Trump’s election, more than $5 trillion in wealth has been created for the U.S. economy.
2018 full year GDP 3.0%

TRADE

Withdrew the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement.
Working to defend American intellectual property from China's unfair practices through a range of actions.
Improved the KORUS trade agreement, which allows more U.S. automobile exports with lower tariffs and increases U.S. pharmaceutical access to South Korea.
American agriculture has gained access to new markets under President Trump.

IMMIGRATION

Started building the wall along the southern border
DHS took action to wind down the (DACA) program in an orderly fashion, following the assessment of the (DOJ) that DACA lacks legal authorization.
Rescinded the unlawful Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA) program.
DHS launched the office of Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE).
(ICE) made 110,568 arrests of illegal aliens in 2017, a 40 percent increase compared to the same time period the prior year.
The number of counties participating in the 287(g) program, which gives state and local law enforcement authority to enforce immigration in their jurisdiction, has doubled.
In FY 2017, ICE conducted 226,119 removals. The proportion of removals from ICE arrests increased from 65,332, or 27% of total removals in FY 2016 to 81,603, or 36% of total removals.
The Trump Administration cracked down on sanctuary cities
The DOJ has worked with Central American partners to arrest and charge about 4,000 MS-13 members.
DHS arrested 796 MS-13 gang members and associates in FY 2017, an 83 percent increase from the previous year.
The White House negotiated $1.6 billion in border wall funding.
Increased ICE funding by more than 10%.
Federal agents have seized nearly 1 million lbs. (981,000) of narcotics on the border.
Congress needs to fix the outdated immigration laws:
1. No catch & release
2. No diversity lottery
3. No asylum claims unless pre-approved
4. No chain migration
5. Only merit based immigration for who the US needs
6. No birthright citizenship, i.e. no cottage industry for anchor babies from Russia & China.
7. DACA kids get green cards but NOT citizenship

FOREIGN POLICY

Addressed global overcapacity and unfair trade practices in the steel and aluminum industries by announcing a 25 percent tariff on steel imports and 10 percent tariff on aluminum imports.
Worked to bring foreign investment back to the United States so more goods are made in America by American workers.
South Korean companies announced 64 projects that will invest more than $17 billion in the U.S. over four years and will purchase $58 billion in goods and services.
Foxconn announced its investment of $10 billion in Wisconsin to build a factory that will employ thousands of workers directly, and up to 22,000 workers indirectly.
Toyota and Mazda announced a $1.6 billion investment that will go toward a new manufacturing plant in the U.S., creating an estimated 4,000 jobs.
Broadcom Limited announced they were moving their headquarters back to the United States, bringing potentially $20 billion in annual revenue.
President Trump and King Salman of Saudi Arabia oversaw the signing of a historic $400 billion in deals between U.S. and Saudi companies.
To defend U.S. national security interests, President Trump blocked a foreign company from acquiring a U.S. business for only the fourth time in history.
Department of Commerce has initiated 79 antidumping and countervailing duties (AD/CVD) investigations.
USTR initiated a Section 301 investigation into Chinese policies, acts, and practices related to technology transfer, licensing, and intellectual property are discriminatory.
The Treasury and State put new sanction rules to channel economic activity away from the Cuban government, particularly the military, and towards the people of Cuba.
Considering a range of actions to respond to China’s acts, policies, and practices involving the unfair and harmful acquisition of U.S. technology.
China imposes contractual restrictions on the licensing of intellectual property and foreign technology into their country.
In 2014, the U.S charged five Chinese military hackers for cyber-esponiage committed against U.S. corporations and a labor organization for commercial advantage.
An interagency analysis estimated that China's unfair acts, policies, and practices caused tens of billions in dollars in damages to the US each year.
Conducted 82 antidumping and countervailing duty investigations in 2017. This was a 58 percent increase in investigations over 2016.
USTR won a WTO compliance challenge against China’s unfair antidumping and countervailing duties on U.S. poultry exports, China terminated those duties.
The US won a WTO dispute regarding Indonesia’s unfair import licensing regime restricting U.S. agricultural exports.
A WTO compliance panel found that U.S. tuna labeling rules designed to inform consumers about safe fishing practices were consistent with WTO standards.
The WTO rejected allegations by the European Union that Boeing was receiving prohibited subsidies.
A WTO panel rejected claims by the EU that alleged U.S. subsidies to Boeing were causing serious prejudice to Airbus, instead finding that 28 of 29 challenged programs were consistent with WTO rules.
South Korea and Japan pledged to build closer defense collaboration with the United States, and the President underscored the commitment of the US to provide advanced military equipment.
Cooperation was boosted between the Quad countries (the United States, Japan, India and Australia) on the sidelines of ASEAN in Manila.
The US to promote prosperity and security in the region by modernizing America’s development finance institutions and increasing their coordination with Japanese counterparts.
Persuaded allies to develop national plans to boost defense spending up to 2 percent of GDP by 2024, and for NATO to formally join the coalition to defeat ISIS at the 2017 NATO Leaders’ meeting.
UN Security Council unanimously passed new sanctions on North Korea.
Secured new commitments from Vietnam and China to increase pressure on NK.
China affirmed it would fully implement UN Security Council resolutions to pressure North Korea.

MILITARY

Signed $700 billion in DoD funding to rebuild our military in 2018, the largest amount in history.
Gave the military a 2.4% pay raise, the biggest since 2010
Released a new National Security Strategy that makes clear that Russia is undertaking actions that threaten the security of the US and our allies, and outlines steps to stop Russia’s malign interference.
Increased funding for the Euro Deterrence Initiative, providing billions to increase U.S. troop readiness in Europe, deter Russian aggression, and defend our NATO allies.
Enhanced its support for Ukraine’s Armed Forces to help Ukraine improve its ability to defend itself.
Working to pressure Russia back into compliance with the INF Treaty to ensure that Russia does not gain strategic advantage from its treaty violations.
Announced the closure of a Russian consulate and two diplomatic annexes in response to Russia’s cutting of the number of U.S. diplomatic personnel in Russia.
Attributed the worldwide NotPetya cyber-attack to the Russian military.
Banned the use of Kaspersky Labs software on U.S. government computers due to Kaspersky ties to Russian intelligence.
Charged three Russians, including two officers of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB), with criminal charges for the 2014 Yahoo hack.
Maintained the closure of two Russian compounds and the expulsion of 35 diplomats in response to Russian interference in the 2016 election.
New the Election Infrastructure Councils to increase information sharing across all levels of government and with private sector providers of voting and registration systems.
During the 2017 elections, provided onsite cybersecurity support to States, to ensure that their electoral infrastructure is secure, will continue to provide assistance in 2018
Proposed a new rule under the Patriot Act that would prohibit Latvia’s ABLV bank, which has been laundering illicit Russian funds, from opening or maintaining correspondent accounts in the US.
Announced Russia Magnitsky Sanctions and Global Magnitsky Sanctions respectively.
Imposed export controls against two Russian companies that were helping Russia to develop missiles that violate the INF Treaty.
Response to Russia’s occupation of Crimea and aggression in Eastern Ukraine, the Trump Administration sanctioned 58 targets on June 20, 2017, and 42 targets on 1/26/18
Continues to take a direct approach to confront Russia where it threatens our institutions, our interests, or our allies.
Imposed sanctions against 16 Russian entities and individuals that were previously indicted for their roles in Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.
Imposed sanctions against two Russian intelligence agencies and six senior Russian intelligence officials for their significant efforts to undermine U.S. cyber security.
Two of the officials are newly sanctioned. The remaining two agencies and four individuals were previously sanctioned and are being re-designated under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).
Called out the Russian government for its malicious cyber activity targeting U.S. critical infrastructure, including failed attempts on the energy sector.
Released a separate DHS/FBI Joint Analytic Report that shares technical threat information to improve the network defenses of American infrastructure and raises the cost on the Russian government.
Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase after the Assad regime used it to launch chemical weapons attacks against civilians.
Prevented further chemical weapons attacks by announcing detection of their preparation and warning Syria that they would be struck again if the attacks were carried out.
Imposed new sanctions on the Maduro dictatorship in Venezuela, targeting the regime itself, and not just individuals, for the first time.
Putting maximum pressure on North Korea to denuclearize.
Revived the National Space Council to develop and implement a new national space policy and strategy.
Elevated the U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command, to advance U.S. efforts in cyberspace
Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration to reassert American sovereignty over our borders.
Signed Executive Order 13780, which restricted travel from certain countries that do not have sufficient security or share enough information.
Worked tirelessly to defeat ISIS and terrorism around the world.
Announced the National Guard Would Be Deployed to the Southwest Border
NATO Member Poland Agrees to Buy and Deploy the U.S. Patriot Missile Defense System

LAW & JUSTICE

DOJ announced more than $98 million in grant funding through the Office of Community Oriented Policing Services COPS Hiring Program to allow 802 additional full-time law enforcement officers.
DOJ has supported students whose free-speech rights have been under attack on university campuses.
Executive Order 13809 to restore State and local law enforcement’s access to surplus equipment from the Defense Department, such as armored vehicles.
Executive Orders – 13773, 13774, and 13776 – aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations, including drug cartels and gangs, and preventing violence against law enforcement officers.
Creation of the new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
Designated MS-13 as a priority for the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force, to allow Federal law enforcement to utilize an expanded toolkit in its efforts to dismantle the organization.
Expanded Project Safe Neighborhoods to encourage U.S. Attorney’s to work with communities to develop customized crime reduction strategies.
Convicted eight members of the Rendon-Reyes Trafficking Organization, on Fed charges of forcing young women from Mexico and Latin America into prostitution.
Returned to longstanding DOJ charging policy for our Federal prosecutors, trusting and directing them to return to charging the most serious, readily provable offense.
The White House nominee for Supreme Court Justice- Neil Gorsuch-was confirmed on April 7th.
The White House nominee for Supreme Court Justice- Brett Kavanaugh -was confirmed on October 6th.
Prosecutors were directed by the Department of Justice to focus on taking illegal guns off our streets.
Signed Rep. Rutherford's STOP School Violence Act and Sens. Cornyn-Murphy "Fix NICS Act."
Approved $2 billion for school safety.
August 2018 - 24 Circuit Court Confirmations and 45 Federal Judges
The Circuit Court Judges “Will Shape Decisions On Immigration, Voting Rights, Abortion, and the environment for generations.”
There are 179 Authorized Judgeships For The U.S. Court Of Appeals and Republicans “Have The Power To Install More Than 20 Percent of the Judges on the nation’s second-highest court.”
Trump signs criminal justice reform bill

ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT

The Department of the Interior proposed its largest oil and gas lease of over 76 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico.
Executive Order to expand offshore oil and gas drilling and open more leases to develop offshore drilling.
Acted aggressively to increase exports of energy resources to the global market. This allowed financing for coal and fossil energy projects.
The Department of Energy announced the approval of the Lake Charles Liquefied Natural Gas terminal.
American LNG export opportunities increased under the Trump Administration.
Oil and gas development was unleashed because of expanded resources and infrastructure needed to get them to market.
Approved the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, supporting an estimated total of 42,000 indirect jobs and $2 billion in wages.
Approved the New Burgos Pipeline, a cross-border project that will export U.S. gasoline to Mexico.
Promoted responsible oil and gas development on Federal lands.
Directed the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to rescind the Obama Administration’s Clean Power Plan (CPP).
According to NERA Economic Consulting, the CPP would have increased electricity rates by as much as 14 percent, costing American households up to $79 billion.
The EPA reconsidered Obama-era rule on methane emissions that would cost American energy developers an estimated $530 million annually.
The EPA was directed by the Energy Independence Executive Order to repeal of the Clean Power Plan.
The Administration estimates that repealing the Clean Power Plan could eliminate up to $33 billion in compliance costs in 2030.
Signed legislation to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) to domestic energy production.
Kept campaign promise to get America out of the Paris Climate Agreement, saving taxpayers billions of dollars.

HEALTHCARE

Mobilized his entire Administration to address drug addiction and opioid abuse by directing the declaration of a Nationwide Public Health Emergency.
Created a bipartisan opioid commission and they issued 56 recommendations to help defeat the opioid crisis.
Directed HHS to declare the opioid crisis a public health emergency, allowing grant money to be used to combat abuse.
International Narcotics Trafficking Emergency Response By Detecting Incoming Contraband With Technology (INTERDICT Act) that gave customs agents $9 million for screening tools.
HHS announced it would provide $485 million in grants to states and territories to combat the opioid crisis. In fiscal year 2017, HHS invested nearly $900 million in opioid-specific funding.
Proposed changes to Medicaid to combat the opioid crisis.
Executive order to reform the US healthcare system to take steps to expand choices and alternatives to Obamacare and increase competition to bring down costs for consumers.
Repealed Obamacare’s individual mandate, which required individuals to purchase a health care plan they may not want or be able to afford.
The Secretary of Labor agreed to expand access to Association Health Plans (AHPs), which could potentially allow American employers to form groups across State lines.
The FDA has approved the most number of generic drugs in history in order to increase competition in the marketplace and lower the cost of prescription drugs for all Americans.

INFRASTRUCTURE & TECHNOLOGY

Allocated $50 billion to empower rural America to address the infrastructure needs of their communities.
Transportation projects which will rebuild roads, bridges, railways, and other vital infrastructure.
Broadband deployment projects which will improve access for rural communities.
Water and waste projects to help ensure rural families have access to clean water.
Power and electric projects to provide rural areas with reliable, affordable power.
Water resources projects to better manage flood risk and improve rural water supplies and waterways.
Made clear that broadband should be an infrastructure priority

Promises Kept | President Donald J. Trump's Accomplishments


Bahahahaha.....That link goes to a re-elect Trump website. That's called propaganda you stupid fucking twit.
There should be links to the actual document or source, otherwise much of this is more Trump lies.

Dateline: October 14, 2019
President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...as-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/



Trump vowed to cut the national debt ‘very quickly.’ It just hit a record $22 trillion.
THEN LAST WEEK:
Trump signs $1.4 trillion spending package, averting shutdown


"WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THE WALL? MEXICO!"
 
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Sorry to burst the cloud over your mind Trumpers. Your delusions are precious to you but I have to prick that orange bubble that has you howling with joy at Trump rallies as lies fall faster from Trump's mouth than Autumn leaves.

Sorry darlings, "According to BEA data, GDI has grown at a 2.3% annualized pace since Trump took office, vs. 2.4% during Obama’s two terms."

Apologies for pricking your orange bubble. Donald Trump is bloating the economy with tax cuts for the rich and burgeoning debt but still can't beat Obama.

Donald Trump has rendered the economy obese and debt-ridden with debt rising faster at >2 x GDP growth.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

This Measure Says Growth Is Slower Under Trump Than Obama

Gross domestic income should in theory track GDP, but it tells a slightly different story.

By
Justin Fox
September 23, 2019, 11:00 PM GMT+7
1200x-1.jpg

ILLUSTRATION: GEORGE WYLESOL FOR BLOOMBERG BUSINESSWEEK

The economy has been perhaps the brightest spot of Donald Trump’s unconventional presidency. A recession would tarnish this, which is presumably why he gets so worked up about perceived missteps by the Federal Reserve. But by one measure, economic growth is already slower during the Trump era than during Barack Obama’s eight years as president.
That measure is gross domestic income. GDI is part of the same quarterly national economic accounting by the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Bureau of Economic Analysis that gives us gross domestic product but is released a month later. The two numbers should, in theory, be identical, but they never quite are because of the vagaries of real-world data. In a 2010 paper, economist Jeremy Nalewaik—then at the Fed, now at Morgan Stanley—made the case that “GDI better reflects the business cycle fluctuations in true output growth.”

publishing the average of GDP and GDI. Also, the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia now calculates a statistically smoothed melding of GDP and GDI, devised in part by Nalewaik, that it calls GDPplus. The presidential growth rates admittedly depend a lot on the starting quarter one chooses, especially for Obama, who took office amid the worst recession in 75 years. Also, while growth rates have been about the same or only moderately higher under Trump, people aren’t wrong to think the economy is better. More are sharing in growth now because the long expansion has brought workers off the sidelines.

• Timing Is Everything

If you measure from the quarter before they took office, Trump leads in GDI growth, 2.5% to 2.1%. Measure from the last quarter of the first year in office (because it takes time for policies to have an effect), and it’s Trump 2.5% to Obama 2.4%.



• Smooth Calculator
According to BEA data, GDI has grown at a 2.3% annualized pace since Trump took office, vs. 2.4% during Obama’s two terms.

• On the Job
Payroll employment has grown at a 1.5%annual pace during Trump’s time in office, faster than the 1% during Obama’s entire presidency but slower than the 1.9% of Obama’s second term.
Real annualized growth rate from first quarter of administration

Data: Bureau of Economic Analysis

• But Wait, It Gets Better
Of Americans age 25-54, 80% had jobs in August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the highest prime-age employment rate in more than a decade and perhaps a better measure of economic health than either GDP or GDI growth.


And now for the rest of the story. From your link:

• On the Job
Payroll employment has grown at a 1.5%annual pace during Trump’s time in office, faster than the 1% during Obama’s entire presidency but slower than the 1.9% of Obama’s second term.
Real annualized growth rate from first quarter of administration

Data: Bureau of Economic Analysis

• But Wait, It Gets Better
Of Americans age 25-54, 80% had jobs in August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the highest prime-age employment rate in more than a decade and perhaps a better measure of economic health than either GDP or GDI growth.

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Not here, subdivisions that were put on hold under Obama are being finished out as we speak and new ones are being built as we speak. .

And thus is the problem with personal anecdotes...you think your tiny piece of the world is the whole world.
 
If you live in a "metropolis" that isn't booming then your definition of a metropolis is warped.
Business is booming everywhere and my son-in-law is constantly travelling to survey properties.

What is warped is your definition of the word booming.

And again, I do not care about your made up son-in-law.
 
• But Wait, It Gets Better
Of Americans age 25-54, 80% had jobs in August, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the highest prime-age employment rate in more than a decade and perhaps a better measure of economic health than either GDP or GDI growth.

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Yet another measure that has been going up for close to 8 years yet people want Trump to have all the credit.

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Not here, subdivisions that were put on hold under Obama are being finished out as we speak and new ones are being built as we speak. .

And thus is the problem with personal anecdotes...you think your tiny piece of the world is the whole world.
I told you I'm going by what I see, not your crappy little charts. Love the ones that showed Hillary would win in a landslide. I also saw through those by what I saw. I was also right.
 
I told you I'm going by what I see, not your crappy little charts. Love the ones that showed Hillary would win in a landslide. I also saw through those by what I saw. I was also right.

You are comparing apples to oranges. But you know this, at least you are honest enough to admit you will never let anything alter your view.
 
Dickless Denizen and Cock Gobbling Gaytor are two sorry fucks who live in a fantasy world of lies and propaganda. We should not even respond to them or give their threads life by replying in them
 
If you live in a "metropolis" that isn't booming then your definition of a metropolis is warped.
Business is booming everywhere and my son-in-law is constantly travelling to survey properties.

What is warped is your definition of the word booming.

And again, I do not care about your made up son-in-law.
As opposed to the fact that you never leave your office to confirm your data?
You must love Rush "Massage The Data" Limbaugh.
 
Dickless Denizen and Cock Gobbling Gaytor are two sorry fucks who live in a fantasy world of lies and propaganda. We should not even respond to them or give their threads life by replying in them

Yet here you are...you cannot stop talking about or thinking about me.

Does you husband know about the sexual fantasies you have about me?
 
As opposed to the fact that you never leave your office to confirm your data?
You must love Rush "Massage The Data" Limbaugh.

I am on the road a fair bit, just enough to keep the office from being boring.

Next month I am part of a Specialty growers and Organics conference.
 
As opposed to the fact that you never leave your office to confirm your data?
You must love Rush "Massage The Data" Limbaugh.

I am on the road a fair bit, just enough to keep the office from being boring.

Next month I am part of a Specialty growers and Organics conference.
My SIL travels all over the US since a few months after Trump took office.
Aside from going to conferences where he meets other property owners who are experiencing the biggest property boom in over a decade.
 
My SIL travels all over the US since a few months after Trump took office.
Aside from going to conferences where he meets other property owners who are experiencing the biggest property boom in over a decade.

So...what do you do? All you ever talk about is a made up family members and then attack me for not getting out of the office more.

Do you do anything? Do you have a life that is not lived through your fake son-in-law?
 
I told you I'm going by what I see, not your crappy little charts. Love the ones that showed Hillary would win in a landslide. I also saw through those by what I saw. I was also right.

You are comparing apples to oranges. But you know this, at least you are honest enough to admit you will never let anything alter your view.
Well if the economy really slowed down, I would be the first to admit it. For three years the media and democrats have tried to destroy Trump. While they worship Obama. There was no praise for a great economy under Obama. If there was great things happening in the economy we would've heard about it 24/7. Obama told us a slow growth rate was the new norm and that manufacturing jobs were gone for good. Then Trump came a long and it's reported that the economy is going to crash. When it doesn't and great things start happening in the economy and liberals cannot make Trump look bad. All a sudden it's Obama's economy and Trump did nothing. Get Obama's rod out of your mouth. Trump did away with Obama's regulations and gave tax cuts, also made doing business in America easier. Obama was against all of that. So your charts mean nothing.
 

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