Something must be done to make amends.

[berg80]

Biden had documents for decades and so have others.

Biden didn't refuse to comply with a subpoena for the return of classified docs. You should read trump's indictment by Smith.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Let the illegal invader free in the territory of a rival gang. Do us all a favor.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Biden didn't refused to comply with a subpoena for the return of classified docs. You should read trump's indictment by Smith.

How did he get them in the first place?

If you steal, you cannot be prosecuted if you return the stolen items when a judge asks you to?

After being given prior notice of the search?

 

[berg80]

Let the illegal invader free in the territory of a rival gang. Do us all a favor.

Wishing ill on Garcia doesn't really address his illegal treatment by the regime.

 

[berg80]

How did he get them in the first place?

Why don't you read Hur's report and find out. The one Hur used to smear Biden in a act of politically motivated sabotage in violation of DoJ protocols.

 

[j-mac]

I refer you to the 2013 bill.

A Guide to S.744: Understanding the 2013 Senate Immigration Bill - American Immigration Council

This guide to provide policymakers, the media, and the public with an easy-to-understand guide to the main components of S. 744 and the purpose behind them.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

Boehner blocking a floor vote in the House was one of the greatest legislative mistakes with tragic consequences of the last 20 years.

Ok, it lays out rich in your link that many that crossed under Biden would not qualify…now what?

 

[berg80]

Ok, it lays out rich in your link that many that crossed under Biden would not qualify…now what?

You act as though Biden didn't deport people who crossed the border illegally or try to prevent them from crossing in the first place. Please don't tell me you believe the open borders bullshit.

 

[j-mac]

You act as though Biden didn't deport people who crossed the border illegally or try to prevent them from crossing in the first place. Please don't tell me you believe the open borders bullshit.

Biden was giving you Kabuki theatre. He was allowing deportations of those already on their way out when he came in, while allowing millions in to the interior of the country, with little to no process…

As of today, the Trump administration has completely stopped illegal crossings at the Southern border…Amazing.

Trump vs. Biden on ICE Arrests, Removals

Facts don’t lie, but sometimes you need help to understand what they are saying.

cis.org

 

[berg80]

As of today, the Trump administration has completely stopped illegal crossings at the Southern border…Amazing.

Not so amazing really. Word of Garcia's (and others) illegal treatment has no doubt had an impact on people potentially crossing the border illegally. Given the dire circumstances driving immigrants to come here deportation looks like a risk worth taking. But being sent to a prison in El Salvador to be tortured is an altogether different consideration. So is being shipped to an African country with an unknown fate.

Inhumane/illegal treatment gets people's attention.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Trump’s attacks on foundational norms and principles leave policymakers with two choices. Lawmakers and voters can accept that damage and admit the inevitability of American decline, or they can fight to restore and strengthen the country’s legal guardrails.

The problem is that the mechanics of American governance don’t afford citizens the means by which to oppose Trump’s criminal lawlessness.

The impeachment process is dead the consequence of Senate Republicans’ refusal to convict a sitting president, although voting to convict was perfectly appropriate and warranted for all three presidential impeachments that went to the Senate for trial.

The judicial process is hopelessly corrupted by a Supreme Court dominated by conservative ideologues who have codified unitary executive dogma and placed presidents above the law.

And the process to amend the Constitution that might restore and strengthen the country’s legal guardrails is pointless as any such proposed amendments would be opposed by Congressional Republicans and Republican controlled states.

Consequently, lawmakers and voters are forced to accept the damage and admit the inevitability of American decline facilitated by Trump, his defenders, and others on the right.

 

[j-mac]

Not so amazing really. Word of Garcia's (and others) illegal treatment has no doubt had an impact on people potentially crossing the border illegally. Given the dire circumstances driving immigrants to come here deportation looks like a risk worth taking. But being sent to a prison in El Salvador to be tortured is an altogether different consideration. So is being shipped to an African country with an unknown fate.

Inhumane/illegal treatment gets people's attention.

Can you document this “torture” he endured?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why don't you read Hur's report and find out. The one Hur used to smear Biden in a act of politically motivated sabotage in violation of DoJ protocols.

If it is a smear, why would you refer me to it for the truth?

You're arguments are frequently confused and self-contradictory.

Why not just answer the question of how Senator Biden managed to move a trove of extremely classified documents to his garage next to his beloved Corvette?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Can you document this “torture” he endured?

No lime on the edge of his margarita glass.

Word is Van Hollen demanded the Maitre 'de be fired on the spot.

 

[Lockback]

If you don't understand why you haven't been paying attention.

Oh, I've been paying attention for a long, long time.
And I do understand why: The Democrat Party has been bought and paid for by Communists who are in the process of trying to overthrow America.
And you're part of it.

 

[Independent thinker]

Biden didn't refuse to comply with a subpoena for the return of classified docs. You should read trump's indictment by Smith.

Biden kept classified documents for decades. Trump didn’t even come close to that.

 

[sparky]

Trump's been doing a form of lawfare, his whole life...using the law and lawsuit after lawsuit, to postpone trials, put fear in to victims, and delay delay delay justice... if not eliminate it through lawfare no one else but the richest, can buy....like Epstein bought lawfare, on his first conviction.

Turnabout is fair play C4all

~S~

 

[j-mac]

No lime on the edge of his margarita glass.

Word is Van Hollen demanded the Maitre 'de be fired on the spot.

I notice Berg is taking his sweet time answering for his language in that post...

As far as I know, there was no 'torture', or anything of the sort....In fact KAG said during all of this that he no longer had any qualms about being held in ES...

But beyond that...many like Berg think that if they just throw out these inflammatory terms in their objections, then without a single shred of proof of any of it, that it becomes fact, because they said so...

There are a couple of facts about Garcia's case. 1. he was in this country illegally. 2. he was a documented member of MS13, 3. he abused his wife, 4. he was given more documented due process than most, if not all other illegals up for deportation.

To me, once you get past point one, here illegally, full stop...back you go.

 

[j-mac]

Not so amazing really.

Oh yes it is...Biden told us that they couldn't shut down the border, without legislation from Congress...That was a straight up lie.

Word of Garcia's (and others) illegal treatment has no doubt had an impact on people potentially crossing the border illegally.

Good. I hope it remains effective in keeping them in their own country's...

Given the dire circumstances driving immigrants to come here deportation looks like a risk worth taking.

We are NOT responsible for their own countries being shitholes. They need to work for their own country, and make it better.

But being sent to a prison in El Salvador to be tortured is an altogether different consideration.

You have not responded for proof of this supposed torture...So, you're making that up.

So is being shipped to an African country with an unknown fate.

tough shit...He set that into motion when he pleaded not to go home.

Inhumane/illegal treatment gets people's attention.

These are ALL your claims...as of now unproven.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Never-Ending Abrego Garcia Saga

The Trump administration spent another day in court stonewalling U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis of Maryland, defying her explicit order to put on a government witness who could testify with direct knowledge of its efforts to deport the much-abused Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a third country. I was at the courthouse and wrote a full report on that aspect of the hearing.

Separately, on the merits of the case, the Trump administration seems increasingly hobbled by its inability to produce any evidence that a final order of removal was ever issued for Abrego Garcia. Xinis has all but concluded that a final order of removal simply never existed, and her pending decision may well turn on that omission, as Politico’s Josh Gerstein reports.

The bitter irony is that the absence of a final order of removal means Abrego Garcia’s wrongful deportation to El Salvador in March was doubly unlawful. We already knew that it was in violation of an immigration judge order that he not be removed to El Salvador specifically, but it now appears likely there was no legal basis to remove him anywhere at all.

A Brutal Ending to One of the Worst Trump II Cases

A Thoroughly Unsatisfying Result U.S. District Judge Stephanie Gallagher just unsealed this...

talkingpointsmemo.com

Sadly, this is only one example of the regime's lawless behavior.

Even though I understand Obama's rationale for not pursuing charges against members of Shrub's admin for the torture of detainees, I thought it was a mistake not to. This time around the country can't afford to turn a blind eye to what Pam Bondi has facilitated. Some kind of reckoning is called for even if it is only to make provisions so abuses of law by the DoJ have a more immediate method of recourse.

This was written after trump 1.0. trump 2.0 is much worse.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior.

Trump’s attacks on foundational norms and principles leave policymakers with two choices. Lawmakers and voters can accept that damage and admit the inevitability of American decline, or they can fight to restore and strengthen the country’s legal guardrails. This post is an effort to begin that fight—to identify practical steps that the country can take to reinvigorate the rule of law and the concept of checks and balances.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

What has Kilmar Abrego Garcia earned and how has he earned it?

Did he earn the privilege to stay in the United States, merely by illegally crossing the border and not getting deported for a number of years?

Did he earn the privilege of chosing his country of deportation by claiming to be targeted by gangs?

Did he earn the right to be here with his wife, and did he lose none of that right by beating her up?

Has he taken any steps to show that he plans to be a good American if given the chance, even bothering to learn the language required of those taking the citizenship test?

If your answer is "due process," he has gotten that in spades. Probably has logged more court time and had more free legal service than any ten American common criminals.

The anti-Trump courts need to stop the judicial stalling and either allow his very rightful deportation or rule that he cannot be deported, so the State Department can either stop wasting time and money on rigged hearings or appeal the the USSC for some sanity.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

**** him, send him to Uganda. Or Gaza.