Something must be done to make amends.

[Care4all]

If Biden admin did not allow 20 million illegals, this would not have happened.

Lie much?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Never-Ending Abrego Garcia Saga

The Trump administration spent another day in court stonewalling U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis of Maryland, defying her explicit order to put on a government witness who could testify with direct knowledge of its efforts to deport the much-abused Kilmar Abrego Garcia to a third country. I was at the courthouse and wrote a full report on that aspect of the hearing.

Separately, on the merits of the case, the Trump administration seems increasingly hobbled by its inability to produce any evidence that a final order of removal was ever issued for Abrego Garcia. Xinis has all but concluded that a final order of removal simply never existed, and her pending decision may well turn on that omission, as Politico’s Josh Gerstein reports.

The bitter irony is that the absence of a final order of removal means Abrego Garcia’s wrongful deportation to El Salvador in March was doubly unlawful. We already knew that it was in violation of an immigration judge order that he not be removed to El Salvador specifically, but it now appears likely there was no legal basis to remove him anywhere at all.

A Brutal Ending to One of the Worst Trump II Cases

A Thoroughly Unsatisfying Result U.S. District Judge Stephanie Gallagher just unsealed this...

talkingpointsmemo.com

Sadly, this is only one example of the regime's lawless behavior.

Even though I understand Obama's rationale for not pursuing charges against members of Shrub's admin for the torture of detainees, I thought it was a mistake not to. This time around the country can't afford to turn a blind eye to what Pam Bondi has facilitated. Some kind of reckoning is called for even if it is only to make provisions so abuses of law by the DoJ have a more immediate method of recourse.

This was written after trump 1.0. trump 2.0 is much worse.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform​

As the U.S. begins to see the light at the end of the Trumpian tunnel, it is time to begin thinking about the issue of repair. One should not assume the result of the election, but it is nonetheless worth asking the question: What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

Of Trump’s many excesses, his assault on legal norms has to rank high in terms of damage to fundamental values that form the fabric of America. His attacks on the free press, the independent judiciary and the independence of the Department of Justice have all created significant damage. His abuse of executive discretionary authority has made a mockery of the concept of checks and balances. His gaming of the judicial system has revealed weaknesses in our legal process. His attempts to place himself (and his family and his business interests) above the law have called into question foundational national conceptions of equal justice. In short, President Trump has led a wrecking crew (aided and abetted by William Barr and Mitch McConnell) that has severely damaged American legal norms of behavior.

Trump’s attacks on foundational norms and principles leave policymakers with two choices. Lawmakers and voters can accept that damage and admit the inevitability of American decline, or they can fight to restore and strengthen the country’s legal guardrails. This post is an effort to begin that fight—to identify practical steps that the country can take to reinvigorate the rule of law and the concept of checks and balances.

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfaremedia.org

I get that you don't like Trump.

I get that you are gleeful that his administration made a mistake by sending this guy to El Salvador when he had conned a court into ruling that he could be deported anywhere except El Salvador. I certainly understand why you bring up this old news in the wake of the two humiliating defeats for your party or "not your party" in the first half of the month of November.

I get your supporting Kilmar as club to bash Trump. I don't understand your deep and highly emotional feeling for Kilmar as a man. That part is very weird. The obvious go to for understanding your feelings would some kind of (perhaps suppressed) homosexual urges, as shown by that guy that had lunch with him.

But this goes beyond that. Your adulation of KA has a religious tone that I don't quite understand. Have you done any self-reflection on that?

 

[SweetSue92]

He was never the poster boy for the left. Rather, his case is an example of the regime carrying out an agenda in violation of court orders and the law.

oh NOW you care about court orders and the law?

That's cute HAHHAHA

 

[Care4all]

I get that you don't like Trump.

I get that you are gleeful that his administration made a mistake by sending this guy to Mexico when he had conned a court into ruling that he could be deported anywhere except Mexico. I certainly understand why you bring up this old news in the wake of the two humiliating defeats for your party or "not your party" in the first half of the month of November.

I get your supporting Kilmar as club to bash Trump. I don't understand your deep and highly emotional feeling for Kilmar as a man. That part is very weird. The obvious go to for understanding your feelings would some kind of (perhaps suppressed) homosexual urges, as shown by that guy that had lunch with him.

But this goes beyond that. Your adulation of KA has a religious tone that I don't quite understand. Have you done any self-reflection on that?

It was El Salvador not Mexico...

The issue is following the law, vs. spitting on it,

and Trump's vindictive prosecution taking place or not....?

 

[Independent thinker]

Thread 'This is what lawfare looks like.'

Nov 7, 2025

The President’s Legal Shell Game to Avoid Accountability​

It is a fundamental principle in our country that nobody is above the law, not even the president. This is not a new idea—it comes from the founding generation, which fought a war to escape from a king who legally “could do no wrong” and then tried to build “a government of laws, and not of men.” It is well documented that President Trump and his lawyers are engaged in a sustained assault on this principle. Again and again—in courts, in Congress and in public—they have argued that the...

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We know what lawfare looks like. You've been doing it for 9 years now.

 

[berg80]

I get that you are gleeful that his administration made a mistake by sending this guy to Mexico

Factual inaccuracy aside, I'm not actually. But I do regard it as a red flag when posters I disagree with start attributing beliefs to me I do not hold because of the weakness of their position.

 

[berg80]

We know what lawfare looks like. You've been doing it for 9 years now.

As you know, that's a lie. It's a talking point trump uses because he can't prove his innocence of the crimes he was charged with.

 

[Seymour Flops]

It was El Salvador not Mexico...

Yes, thank you.

Corrected.

The issue is following the law, vs. spitting on it,

Not at all credible for you to say that. If you didn't like people spitting on the law, why would you be so strongly supportive of illegal immigration?

and Trump's vindictive prosecution taking place or not....?

"Vindictive" in what way? First you say no one should be allowed to spit on the law, now you say it is wrong to prosecute a man who did exactly that.

 

[Nostra]

not true Berg

Garcia is a perp, not a victim

The D's empowered ICE in 96 ,97 to forgo judicials.....

The D's also assumed more deportations than the current administrations

Get your facts right plz

~S~

Berg loves him some gang banging, wife beating, human smugglers.

 

[Nostra]

These are the facts relative to Garcia's case.

The bitter irony is that the absence of a final order of removal means Abrego Garcia’s wrongful deportation to El Salvador in March was doubly unlawful. We already knew that it was in violation of an immigration judge order that he not be removed to El Salvador specifically, but it now appears likely there was no legal basis to remove him anywhere at all.

No court order needed to deport an illegal, Short Bus.

 

[Nostra]

What do you think about a bipartisan commission assigned to study the trump regime's abuses and come up with a list of reforms to prevent them from being repeated?

I must admit I'd also like to see some personal consequences for people like the blonde sock puppet, Halligan, and Todd Blanche. Like disbarment.

Dotard being beyond the reach of the law.

It’s a joke.

Next?

 

[Care4all]

We know what lawfare looks like. You've been doing it for 9 years now.

Trump's been doing a form of lawfare, his whole life...using the law and lawsuit after lawsuit, to postpone trials, put fear in to victims, and delay delay delay justice... if not eliminate it through lawfare no one else but the richest, can buy....like Epstein bought lawfare, on his first conviction.

 

[Nostra]

He didn't. U.S. Immigration law is loose as a goose, and E/Os give the President executive power to make these immigration decisions.

That's why no republican lawsuits against the President for breaking immigration law would prevail.... why Biden could do, what he did by setting the limits on who could seek asylum, or parole, or refugee status legally and get a court date for an immigration judge, to determine.

And Trump had to do HIS OWN Executive Orders, to make immigration policy what it is now, under him.... Trump did not just say we will now follow immigration law as written by Congress, because Biden was not breaking U.S.Immigration policy....

Trump had to use his E/Os to make his own immigration policy, and deportation policy, which parts of those new E/O policies are in the courts now, being challenged.

No stupid, you are lying again.

Trying to argue Biden didn’t ignore his oath on immigration just exposes what a hack moron you are.

There is no dispute in this. None.

But keep looking stupid, it’s what you do best.

 

[Nostra]

As you know, that's a lie. It's a talking point trump uses because he can't prove his innocence of the crimes he was charged with.

In America one isn’t required to prove innocence.

How stupid are you?

 

[Independent thinker]

As you know, that's a lie. It's a talking point trump uses because he can't prove his innocence of the crimes he was charged with.

As you know, that's a lie.

 

[Lockback]

I am laughing at his predicament like lefties laugh at Kirk’s murder.

If the Biden Admin did not violate border security to import illegal Dem voters, DEPORTATION WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY.

MISTAKES HAPPEN.

Had there ever been a mistake arrest by LE?

Lefties love this shit. Admit it, you guys spank it to mistakes like this so you can use it to stop all deportations.

I notice you brotherfuckers are not bringing illegals into your homes.

GFY.

Bingo.
All these wonderful liberal Americans who utter bullshit like I heard the other day, "We don't want ICE here but we welcome immigrants" haven't opened their home's doors to these illegals.
Here's a modest suggestion to our liberal brethren.

Put a sign on your door:
"Door is unlocked. Make yourself right at home. Please come in and help yourself: bedroom, bathroom and kitchen. Also, notice a credit card on the counter. Please take it and use it! Also, the keys to the '23 Nissan Sentra are on the hook by the back door. Feel free to use the car! We love having you here!"

Of course, they won't. Because they're phonies and hypocrites.

 

[berg80]

Trump's been doing a form of lawfare, his whole life...using the law and lawsuit after lawsuit, to postpone trials, put fear in to victims, and delay delay delay justice... if not eliminate it through lawfare no one else but the richest, can buy....like Epstein bought lawfare, on his first conviction.

He got a taste for it when he evaded military service by having a doctor make up a story about bone spurs. It's become much worse since then. The case loyalist Aileen Cannon presided over being the most obvious example.

 

[berg80]

All these wonderful liberal Americans who utter bullshit like I heard the other day, "We don't want ICE here but we welcome immigrants"

If you don't understand why you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Meathead]

Can we all at least agree to reforms of a prez's authority to invoke emergency powers?

President Trump has repeatedly invoked federal emergency powers to pursue his more controversial political priorities. He declared a national emergency at the southern border, which allowed him to secure funds for constructing a border wall—a policy priority that Congress had refused to fund. More recently, he used emergency powers to criminalize cooperation with the International Criminal Court’s investigation of U.S. activity in Afghanistan, effectively stonewalling the investigation. Notably, under the cover of declared emergencies, President Trump has used the expanded powers to pursue economic objectives such as imposing tariffs on Mexico and China.

Like the use of tariffs during 2.0.

No

 

[Nostra]

He got a taste for it when he evaded military service by having a doctor make up a story about bone spurs. It's become much worse since then. The case loyalist Aileen Cannon presided over being the most obvious example.

Made up?

Prove it.

And Tater had 5 deferrals during Nam……for asthma while he was playing college football.