Something has to give.

[dblack]

Not sure why this needs to be such a mystery.

It's not. They know exactly what's going on and they don't care. A lot of them even like it. They want authoritarian government.

 

[CowboyTed]

oh come on. "Maryland man" seems to connote the guy was american. he's not. And he should have been deported to some third country years ago.

The court decide that, not the Executive branch.... They can bring him to court but he gets due process....

People are stop coming to US on even Holidays because lack of protections they have in US... US Citizens are treated far far better in EU...

As international tourists pull back on U.S. travel and purchases, $90 billion in lost revenue looms

Visits from Canada, Germany and the United Kingdom have seen particularly significant declines.

www.nbcnews.com

All you have to do is respect people's rights...

 

[berg80]

We probably always have had that, and judges make mistakes too.

But the facts are that the guy fits deportable criteria. His wife charged him with assault, and he's been arrested for suspected human trafficking. He probably shouda been deported to some other third world country willing to take him.

You have to be willfully ignorant of the facts to write a post like that. He was detained by a Tennessee highway patrol officer on suspicion of human trafficking. No charges were filed. His wife asked for a restraining order against him but never followed thru with formal charges.

As much as you folks keep trying to justify the regime's treatment of Garcia the fact is it broke the law, admittedly, when it deported him.

 

[bendog]

Courts are there to intrepid the law...

Are you saying the courts should have their own enforcement force?

No matter what we think of the laws, there are ways to change them... Courts intrepid the laws on the books today...

I'm saying that courts should not enter orders that don't have broad support already. The Courts didn't stop lynching or bombing little black girls in a church.

It bites both ways. Although Blackmun was a goper when he wrote Roe, constitutional expansion popularity changed, even though support for abortion has been consistent. Perhaps it should have been left to citizens to demand votes.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The problem for your side berg80 is that 1) there is not a clear and actionable act of contempt (yet), and 2) when and if one occurs, the judges aren't going to do anything.

Any action any court takes against the executive would require the executive to go along with it. He won't.

You think a low level federal judge can put Pam Bondi in jail? The judges don't think so either, so they won't try. Fine a DOJ lawyer for following Bondi's orders? How much?

Get real.

 

[BluesLegend]

Judge scorches Trump admin for stonewalling in Abrego Garcia deportation case

Meh, do something about it you gutless traitors. Meanwhile an ILLEGAL deported multiple times with an arrest record as long as your arm gets blind drunk, drives 100mph with no license or insurance and KILLS a teen couple. Yeah, Dems are letting this filth out of prison early after only 3 years. Thank God Trump stepped in to stop this injustice!!

 

[BluesLegend]

How many Americans have to be RAPED or MURDERED before Democrats stop defending these filthy illegal scum??

 

[berg80]

I'm saying that courts should not enter orders that don't have broad support already.

You make it sound as if you think the public doesn't broadly support the Constitution. It's safe to say trumples don't. After all, trump violated it when he tried to steal the 2020 election but they voted for him anyway in 2024.

 

[bendog]

The court decide that, not the Executive branch.... They can bring him to court but he gets due process....

People are stop coming to US on even Holidays because lack of protections they have in US... US Citizens are treated far far better in EU...

As international tourists pull back on U.S. travel and purchases, $90 billion in lost revenue looms

Visits from Canada, Germany and the United Kingdom have seen particularly significant declines.

www.nbcnews.com

All you have to do is respect people's rights...

He's not a citizen of Maryland. I just think you unfairly characterized Robert W's post.

American citizens EVERYDAY have parole or suspended sentences revoked simply because they were arrested and a judge said "more likely than not" you did the deed, so back you go.

Garcia doesn't need to be convicted to be deported. But he was deported to the wrong country.
Lawyers for Mr Abrego Garcia's argued in court filings that the "westerns clique" is based in New York, where they say their client has never lived. And according to government documents, he has dismissed the information given to police against him as "hearsay".

According to his lawyers, Mr Abrego Garcia has never been convicted of any criminal offence, including gang membership, in the US or in El Salvador. He lived in the US for 14 years, had three children and worked in construction, according to court records.

But the judge who presided over his 2019 case said that based on the confidential information, there was sufficient evidence to support Mr Abrego Garcia's gang membership. That finding was later upheld by another judge.

As a result Mr Abrego Garcia was refused bail and remained in custody. During this time he applied for asylum to prevent his deportation to El Salvador.

In October 2019 he was granted a "withholding of removal" order, court documents show - a status different from asylum, but one which prevented the US government from sending him back to El Salvador because he could face harm.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What is alleged and what we know

BBC Verify looks at the evidence behind allegations that the Salvadoran mistakenly deported to a mega-prison was a dangerous gang member.

www.bbc.com

 

[bendog]

You make it sound as if you think the public doesn't broadly support the Constitution. It's safe to say trumples don't. After all, trump violated it when he tried to steal the 2020 election but they voted for him anyway in 2024.

progs don't like borders. How about we all just try to follow the law.

 

[The Duke]

It's a constitutional crisis any time the executive branch refuses to comply with a court order that has not been stayed or overturned.

There's this thing called "Separation of Powers" in The United States government, brah.
Did you ever have a Civics class?

 

[BluesLegend]

With 200,000+ Americans KILLED by Chinese Fentanyl trafficked by illegals. With untold numbers of Americans RAPED and MURDERED by illegals. With hundreds of billions in illegals on Americans crime. With untold numbers of Americans injured and maimed by drunk ass illegals driving around with no license or insurance. We could give a shit about this loser Trump deported the F out of here.

 

[The Duke]

No, the Judicial branch doesn't enforce the law. Try again, silly dembot.

Go back to basic Civics.

Executive orders are treated as laws. And actually the Judicial Branch does enforce the law.

 

[struth]

Executive orders are treated as laws.

Not sure what that has to do with my post.

 

[berg80]

The problem for your side @berg80 is that 1) there is not a clear and actionable act of contempt (yet)

My side? You must be referring to the lower court making the original ruling against the regime, the appeals court agreeing with it, a district court agreeing with it, and the SC agreeing with it.

 

[berg80]

Executive orders are treated as laws.

Ridiculous. You folks really do need to find some media sources that aren't lying to you 24/7.

 

[The Duke]

Ridiculous. You folks really do need to find some media sources that aren't lying to you 24/7.

Look it up, ShitSperg. :/

Executive order | Definition, Examples, & Facts | Britannica

Executive order, principal mode of administrative action on the part of the president of the United States. The executive order stands in contrast to the proclamation, a historic means of giving public notice of matters of widespread concern that may or may not produce legal effects.

www.britannica.com

 

[berg80]

Did you ever have a Civics class?

I minored in political science. That's why I know you're full of shit.

 

[Seymour Flops]

My side? You must be referring to the lower court making the original ruling against the regime, the appeals court agreeing with it, a district court agreeing with it, and the SC agreeing with it.

Yes, the judicial side.

They are embarrassing themselves by issuing orders they should know they cannot enforce.

 

[Orangecat]

Normally that is when Congress, with its impeachment power, would step in. But the House Repubs have shown they are prepared to subvert the Constitution to Dear Leader.

"Elections have consequences" - B Obama
"DEMOCRACY!!!1!!1!" - Libtards everywhere