Something Else That Trump Couldn't Be Bothered to Get Right: Termination of Union Members Have to Adhere to Their Collective Bargaining Agreement-CBA

[CowboyTed]

I don't think you understand. There is a hiring freeze in the deep state and jobs are being eliminated.

So you are saying that Trump is in charge of the Deep State now...

Gottcha...

 

[konradv]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5097676-elon-musk-defended-salute-criticism/

They should know better. I don’t consider any sort of ultimate authority.

 

[justoffal]

Dewd, fix your alignment.

It's on center instead of right indent

That is not Federal Workers...

That is political appointees...

This is your problem you think the President is God... He is not, he has limits and by day 9 you want to be treated like a king...

Trump can't fire people like this, they have rights..

These things are happening in a rapid succession I will fall over themselves trying to correct.
It's being done that way on purpose. There's a real expert in the back room somewhere else and it's not Trump. This more or less parallels the collusion five or six legal cases being filed on him simultaneously. He's just fighting back the way they attacked him.

 

[CowboyTed]

I believe most prisons have work out areas and probably also offer dental care.

So does the federal housing Trump is living in too..

 

[justoffal]

So you are saying that Trump is in charge of the Deep State now...

Gottcha...

Someone is showing him how to maximize the effect of the executive authority. I'm telling you if he's not doing this by himself. I've been watching how this is coming down.... It has lethality by sheer force of volume. I wouldn't be surprised if Baron is the one orchestrating it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

This is your problem you think the President is God... He is not, he has limits and by day 9 you want to be treated like a king...
Trump can't fire people like this, they have rights..

It's the executive branch.
Ultimately, everyone except the VP serves at the pleasure of the President.

 

[CowboyTed]

It's on center instead of right indent

These things are happening in a rapid succession I will fall over themselves trying to correct.
It's being done that way on purpose. There's a real expert in the back room somewhere else and it's not Trump. This more or less parallels the collusion five or six legal cases being filed on him simultaneously. He's just fighting back the way they attacked him.

Well it looks like Trump is going to spend two years in and out of court rooms... Mainly for incompetency, there are way to do things and he seems clueless about them...

 

[justoffal]

Well it looks like Trump is going to spend two years in and out of court rooms... Mainly for incompetency, there are way to do things and he seems clueless about them...

That's just it....The Courtrooms provide the monkey wrench instead of the solution. He won't have to be present for any of it. The idea is to drag it out time wise to the point where the opposition can no longer hold out.

 

[Edgetho]

Someone showing him how to maximize the effect of the executive authority. I'm telling you if he's not doing this by himself. I've been wondering how this is coming down.... It has lethality by sheer force of volume.

Trump is just doing what he said he would do during his campaign.

dimocrap scum are taken aback by that fact. They're not used to it happening. Their scumbag politicians lie their asses off during their campaigns and then don't do a goddam thing they said they would do.

Happens every time a Republican wins, dimocrap scum can not fathom honesty.

 

[CowboyTed]

That's just it....The Courtrooms provide the monkey wrench instead of the solution. He won't have to be present for any of it. The idea is to drag it out time wise to the point where the opposition can no longer hold out.

Trump showed himself how long you can delay in court...

Does nothing for 2 years and Congress could shut him down...

Or he could try and do things the right way...

Shows he learnt nothing from the first time..

 

[CowboyTed]

Someone is showing him how to maximize the effect of the executive authority. I'm telling you if he's not doing this by himself. I've been watching how this is coming down.... It has lethality by sheer force of volume. I wouldn't be surprised if Baron is the one orchestrating it.

There are definately smarter people around this time and they are more prepared (that is the backroom crew)... Trump is still himself, seems to be clueless to what is going on..

 

[Billiejeens]

Sorry but all workers can have access to collective bargaining... The old Constitution pretty much guarantees that..

Worker have contracts and thus have rights on that contract...

This is any employer/ Employee relationship... This is workers rights, GOP really hate workers having rights..

The Constitution
Jesus

 

[justoffal]

Trump showed himself how long you can delay in court...

Does nothing for 2 years and Congress could shut him down...

Or he could try and do things the right way...

Shows he learnt nothing from the first time..

Well somebody learned something. The execution of all of these actions is too goddamn well coordinated. These are precision actions that have all been planned ahead of time taking into account the reactions. This is not a blind man with an axe, that's why I don't believe it's Trump orchestrating it.

This is an executioner with a Scimitar. Could be Musk.... But I don't think so.

 

[BlackSand]

Dewd, fix your alignment.

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Dude ... No thanks, and not interested in your proposal.
You can rest assured I won't ever tell you how to post ... You can keep slapping your slop up there any way you desire.

Try to say something more in the future though ...
That post was kind of a waste of time for the both of us ...
But I can completely understand if you didn't have anything else to say ...

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[justoffal]

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Dude ... No thanks, and not interested in your proposal.
You can rest assured I won't ever tell you how to post ... You can keep slapping your slop up there any way you desire.

Try to say something more in the future though ...
That post was kind of a waste of time for the both of us ...

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Lol....

I might try that myself.. the s***** justification software that runs this site often requires editing the post so that it doesn't show all chopped up paragraph wise. Centering might solve the problem!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I can't help but wonder why Trump appears to be in SUCH a hurry to burn everything down.

Because Trump is a fascist thug who has contempt for the rule of law.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I can't help but wonder why Trump appears to be in SUCH a hurry to burn everything down. So much so that he can't be bothered to do things the proper way so that he is obtains the results he wants, or in the very least, not have so many irons in the fire that it bogs down our government and prevents people from doing the work that they were hired to do.

UNLESS this is just a tactic.

When a federal employee is a member of a union, their termination must comply with the terms set forth in the Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) between the union and the federal agency. These agreements outline just cause protections, due process rights, and grievance procedures that must be followed before an employee can be fired.​

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Key Protections Under Federal Union CBAs:​

1. Just Cause Standard:
   • Most CBAs prohibit arbitrary or politically motivated firings.
   • The agency must provide documented reasons for termination, often including a progressive discipline process before outright dismissal.
2. Due Process Rights (5 U.S.C. § 7513 & § 7121):
   • Federal employees cannot be fired without due process.
   • They are entitled to notice, a chance to respond, and an appeal process through the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) or their union’s grievance procedure.
3. Union Representation in Disciplinary Actions:
   • Employees have a right to union representation (Weingarten Rights) during disciplinary meetings.
   • The union can challenge unfair terminations through arbitration or legal action.
4. Grievance and Appeal Rights:
   • Federal employees covered by a CBA can challenge their termination through a grievance process instead of (or in addition to) an MSPB appeal.
   • Many unions arbitrate wrongful termination cases, and arbitrators have the power to reinstate employees and award back pay.

How This Applies to Trump's Firings:​

If Trump’s administration is firing federal employees who are union members, those dismissals must comply with their CBA protections. If the firings are politically motivated or related to retaliation against DEI programs, unions can file lawsuits and grievances to block the terminations.​

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Current Union Legal Actions Against Firings:​

• The National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU) has already filed a lawsuit challenging the reclassification and firing of federal workers, arguing it violates the Civil Service Reform Act and their collective bargaining rights. (theguardian.com)
• The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) is also preparing legal challenges against mass firings. (marketwatch.com)

Thank you for pointing out Trumps next move should be the elimination of government worker unions.

 

[Edgetho]

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Dude ... No thanks, and not interested in your proposal.
You can rest assured I won't ever tell you how to post ... You can keep slapping your slop up there any way you desire.

Try to say something more in the future though ...
That post was kind of a waste of time for the both of us ...
But I can completely understand if you didn't have anything else to say ...

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Bye

 

[justoffal]

.Because Trump is a fascist thug who has contempt for the rule of law.

Trump is following the same pattern that was used against him in his last term. Domination by sheer force of volume.

 

[BlackSand]

Bye

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Just leave ... You don't have to tell me, nitwit ...
Save us both the time with your big heaping load of nothing.

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