Solar taking a dump! Here's why.........

[Old Rocks]

How would solar panels affect the output of the sun? Perhaps you really should learn about Milankovitch Cycles and the carbon cycle;

Carbon Dioxide levels appear to be linked to the Milankovitch cycles according to Ice Core data but what is the mechanism?

As in ice core data shows that $CO_2 $ levels have fluctuated on levels correlating to the temperature and ice levels, but I couldn't think of a mechanism for what might be the link between the rel...

earthscience.stackexchange.com

 

[Unkotare]

The whole "you'll save on electricity costs!" thing with solar is a big scam.

A friend installed solar in Tacoma, Washington. That was done in December. From January to July, he paid zero for his electricity. In July the utility paid him $250. Neat scam.

Is Leasing Solar Panels Worth It?

Leasing solar panels isn't the best route if you want a large return on investment on your solar system. Learn all you need to know about solar leases here.

unboundsolar.com

 

[Unkotare]

Homeowners trapped by 25-year solar panel contracts

Householders who lease their roofs to power firms find it hard or costly to move home

www.theguardian.com

 

[Unkotare]

Solar Panel Financing Options

Learn more about the solar panel financing options that are available to you.

www.thesolarnerd.com

 

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How would solar panels affect the output of the sun? Perhaps you really should learn about Milankovitch Cycles and the carbon cycle;

Carbon Dioxide levels appear to be linked to the Milankovitch cycles according to Ice Core data but what is the mechanism?

As in ice core data shows that $CO_2 $ levels have fluctuated on levels correlating to the temperature and ice levels, but I couldn't think of a mechanism for what might be the link between the rel...

earthscience.stackexchange.com

It doesn't reduce the output of the sun. It reduces the radiation received by the earth from the sun. And will result in a cooling effect relative to the use of no solar panels.

 

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Solar panels change the way sunlight is reflected and absorbed by the Earth. Any radiation they take in is radiation that's not being absorbed by the Earth. This leads to a cooling effect in the region surrounding the array.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/11/02/surprising-study-finds-that-solar-energy-can-also-cause-climate-change-a-little/

 

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We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect.

Impact of solar panels on global climate

This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu

 

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I mean seriously... was it even ever a question? Can't it be solved by inspection that the widespread use of solar panels will induce a cooling effect?

 

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So... which idiot here thinks it's a good idea for widespread use of solar panels during an ice age?

 

[Old Rocks]

We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect.

Impact of solar panels on global climate

This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu

LOL Fellow, ever here of the physical principal of conservation of energy? The sunlight falls on the solar panel, about 20% of that energy is converted to electricity. The electricity is put on the grid, and transmission losses convert a percentage of that to heat. It is used in electric motors, and a percentages of that goes to heat. In light bulbs, and a percentage goes to heat. Then the mechanical energy from the motor is converted to heat, and the photons from the light bulb are converted heat by the material it falls on. In other words, that heat is just relocated to different areas. 3rd grade physics lecture over, try to remember.

 

[Old Rocks]

Homeowners trapped by 25-year solar panel contracts

Householders who lease their roofs to power firms find it hard or costly to move home

www.theguardian.com

Then buy the damned system.

 

[Unkotare]

Homeowners trapped by 25-year solar panel contracts

Householders who lease their roofs to power firms find it hard or costly to move home

www.theguardian.com

Then buy the damned system.

Whoa! Look at the savings!

 

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We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect.

Impact of solar panels on global climate

This study considers how large-scale application of solar panels will affect climate. Electricity generation leads to regional cooling but this is countered by the power's use, affecting global circulation patterns with changes in regional rainfall.

ui.adsabs.harvard.edu

LOL Fellow, ever here of the physical principal of conservation of energy? The sunlight falls on the solar panel, about 20% of that energy is converted to electricity. The electricity is put on the grid, and transmission losses convert a percentage of that to heat. It is used in electric motors, and a percentages of that goes to heat. In light bulbs, and a percentage goes to heat. Then the mechanical energy from the motor is converted to heat, and the photons from the light bulb are converted heat by the material it falls on. In other words, that heat is just relocated to different areas. 3rd grade physics lecture over, try to remember.

What part of Any radiation they take in is radiation that's not being absorbed by the Earth confused you?

 

[skookerasbil]

Soaring costs in solar energy causing the market to take a dive.........mostly due to China. And how funny is this? Everybody knows Biden in bed with China which effectively screws the solar market.

Heres the bad news if you are a big solar guy...........

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/soaring-solar-costs-could-slow-000000584.html

What Could Ruin It All?

"Solar doesn’t just have a polysilicon supply problem …

It has a polysilicon reputation problem, too.

Again, these are all largely Chinese suppliers, many from the Xinjiang area, and many using coal to produce solar-grade polysilicon, which largely defeats the purpose of solar as one of our clean energy saviors."



Really now.........how fcuking dumb are the climate crusaders? More fodder that they all hail from the University of Mars.

Such flap yap idiocy, almost all new generation this year will be renewables;
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Renewables account for most new U.S. electricity generating capacity in 2021 - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

lol.....can we see that on a graph next to fossil fuels!

"Growth" graphs are the tried and true fakery strategy employed by progressives to make their idea's look plausible.

Problem is, anybody who is astute enough to ask the ?, "As compared to what?" train wrecks the progressive argument.

Solar/Wind continue to be little itty bitty slivers on any energy graph that includes fossil fuels........will continue that way well past 2050. But dont take my word for it.......check the EIA government energy projection graph for 2021. Ive posted it numerous times in here. Its 1 million GW of pwn.......

 

[skookerasbil]

The whole "you'll save on electricity costs!" thing with solar is a big scam.

A friend installed solar in Tacoma, Washington. That was done in December. From January to July, he paid zero for his electricity. In July the utility paid him $250. Neat scam.

AhhhhHaaaa..........

Over the past several years here on Long Island in New York, solar companies did the same thing. The people who signed up were thrilled.......until they got their bills

Their electric expenditures for the year...........WENT UP!!

Local News 12 did a special report........people were pissed. Ummm.......the customers interviewed were frequently using the term, "Scam".

 

[Turtlesoup]

Everybody knows Biden in bed with China which effectively screws the solar market.

Explain how Biden is in "bed" with China on the solar power issue..If you can..

Taking bribes $$$ and little chinese girls for his son and likely him.

 

[Unkotare]

The whole "you'll save on electricity costs!" thing with solar is a big scam.

A friend installed solar in Tacoma, Washington. That was done in December. From January to July, he paid zero for his electricity. In July the utility paid him $250. Neat scam.

AhhhhHaaaa..........

Over the past several years here on Long Island in New York, solar companies did the same thing. The people who signed up were thrilled.......until they got their bills

Their electric expenditures for the year...........WENT UP!!

Local News 12 did a special report........people were pissed. Ummm.......the customers interviewed were frequently using the term, "Scam".

And just wait until they try to sell those houses.

 

[Old Rocks]

The savings using a solar system over 20 years varies from state to state because of varying electrical costs of separate states. Here is a guide to some states, add in a battery backup, and you are safe from blackouts;

How Much do Solar Panels Save In 2025? | EnergySage

If you're wondering whether solar panels save you money, the answer is yes. However, the amount that you'll save depends on where you live.

news.energysage.com

 

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Any radiation take in by solar panels is radiation that's not being absorbed by the Earth

 

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I can't think of a better way to usher in a glacial cycle than widespread the use of solar panels.