Socialists claim the workers own the mean of production but thats impossible

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Thats the lame excuse for the 100% failure of socialism. "True Socialism" is failure every time its tried
It has never been tried, that is correct. For some reason, the oligarchy can exist through any regime, same with the clergy.
 
It has never been tried, that is correct. For some reason, the oligarchy can exist through any regime, same with the clergy.
Its been tried many times always with the same result. Poverty and oppression.
 
Socialism is where the means of production, distribution and exchange are held in common cause, often through the agency of the state.

Rightards in the US must wish for private ownership of the armed forces. And the police and the courts. And the roads.
 
When your Communism comes to power, without exterminating people if I was empowered, I would sterilize the irresponsible population that cost civilization massive wealth. That would be humane. Until exterminating becomes necessary.

MAGA is the party of death. You're consistently discussing killing your fellow citizens.

Trump is the guy who is destroying the wealth of the nation, by delivering it all into the hands of the billionaires.

Name one authoritarian dictatorship where the PEOPLE are all healthy, living comfortably, and making good money, free from oppression, and able to have their freedom to speak and move wherever they want.
 
It was altered by those claiming what it was versus what it really was.
When something fails 100% of the time its a good indication that it doesnt work
 
I have no communism to give...M'kay..
The modern media is about convincing people what to do and think. Progressives knew that many many decades ago. The writings of Karl Marx and the actions of crazy activists like Saul Alinsky. These two men alone have killed hundreds of millions of people and led hundreds of millions more into bondage and poverty. With you accused of communism is the same at least as you accuse others of things they are not and frankly you are.
 
The modern media is about convincing people what to do and think. Progressives knew that many many decades ago. The writings of Karl Marx and the actions of crazy activists like Saul Alinsky. These two men alone have killed hundreds of millions of people and led hundreds of millions more into bondage and poverty. With you accused of communism is the same at least as you accuse others of things they are not and frankly you are.
(Yawn) Get real...
 
Socialism is where the means of production, distribution and exchange are held in common cause, often through the agency of the state.

Rightards in the US must wish for private ownership of the armed forces. And the police and the courts. And the roads.
Cool pipe-dream, stupid. It has NEVER WORKED EVER, especially as you described. You owe whoever brainwashed you a slap in the face.
 
Cool pipe-dream, stupid. It has NEVER WORKED EVER, especially as you described. You owe whoever brainwashed you a slap in the face.
Should all roads be privately owned?
 
Or should roads be owned by the King?
 
Funny how no rightards will address the means of distribution that are held in common cause through the agency of the state.

Those roads are invisible to true believers.
 
Should all roads be privately owned?
Just shut the **** up, stupid. None of your DUMB comparisons are worthy of discussion. The same dumb ******* bullshit every time.
You want socialism?
SWIM TO CUBA.
 
In socialism the state owns the means of production and the workers own nothing. The only way a worker can own equity in a company is by buying stock in the company. Thats capitalism.
I wouldn't worry about socialism because we don't live in Utopia. Socialism is a system that only works on paper, it's never worked in real life, and it never will.
 
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Just shut the **** up, stupid. None of your DUMB comparisons are worthy of discussion. The same dumb ******* bullshit every time.
You want socialism?
SWIM TO CUBA.
US non-coms in particular get too used to being able to win arguments with privates.

Yelling is all they can do when presented with facts that conflict with their idiology.
 
Just shut the **** up, stupid. None of your DUMB comparisons are worthy of discussion. The same dumb ******* bullshit every time.
You want socialism?
SWIM TO CUBA.
Just think, in the US a portion of Intel is held in common cause through the agency of the state, now.

That's wonderful, isn't it?
 
You want socialism?
I have a fair bit of it now and I want more.

You want socialism but you want to call it something else. I know, call it 'freedom'.

That'll be a winner.
 
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